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Topic: Behmor profiles for Tree Dried Natural?? (14 msgs / 215 lines)
1) From: Bryan Wray
I know people have had success, what profiles are Behmor roasters using?  Loyd what did you roast yours in?  I know... high chaff, but it's never stopped me before.  No problems with one pound of IMV; maybe I'll do this one outside just in case... nah... it's cold.
-Bry
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Kalamazoo, MI
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2) From: Tim Harvey
High chaff for sure.  I started getting flaming embers of chaff during 1st crack.  I immediately hit cool, but it went into second and cracked for over a minute before it stopped.  You can't believe how much smoke it made!  About 3x the chaff as say a colombian.  Had about 15-20 beans escape too. If you want the settings I used, I can grab my roaster log and update you so you can avoid it.  Tasted just like starbucks.
Tim
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3) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
I for one would like to hear what settings you used. I will be  
roasting some soon and I am also thinking ordering more. Have you  
tried it again with the Behmor with better results?
dave
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4) From: Loyd Blankenship
I use an iRoast2. FWIW, factory program #2 stopped manually shortly after
2nd crack began. I just got another 4 pounds of this, I'm going to do some
more this morning once there's enough light outside to see what's going on.
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5) From: John Despres
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HA!!! Now that's funny. Very few of my friends understand why I don't 
like Charbucks...
JACD
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6) From: Marty Wooten
Jeff 
 
Thank you for sharing your experience. Have you tried another roast since the fire, turning off and unplugging? If so, did everything work well?
Not that I hope to repeat your experience, but knowing too well it is all possible ;o)
 
Marty
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From: Jeff Anderson 
To: homeroast
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:15:17 PM
Subject: Re: +Behmor profiles for Tree Dried Natural??
In case of fire, if you hit the cool button it will just fan the flames and make it worse (I'm speaking from experience here). In the manual under "Safeguards", number 9 says "If you see fire, turn off and unplug The Behmor 1600." It works (again, speaking from experience).
Jeff
Tim Harvey wrote: 
High chaff for sure.  I started getting flaming embers of chaff during 1st crack.  I immediately hit cool, but it went into second and cracked for over a minute before it stopped.  You can't believe how much smoke it made!  About 3x the chaff as say a colombian.  Had about 15-20 beans escape too. If you want the settings I used, I can grab my roaster log and update you so you can avoid it.  Tasted just like starbucks.  Tim    ---- Bryan Wray  wrote:     
I know people have had success, what profiles are Behmor roasters using?  Loyd what did you roast yours in?  I know... high chaff, but it's never stopped me before.  No problems with one pound of IMV; maybe I'll do this one outside just in case... nah... it's cold.    -Bry      Bryan Wray  NaDean's Coffee Place/  Dino's Coffee Lounge  Kalamazoo, MI    "It is my hope that people realize that coffee is more than just a caffeine delivery service, it can be a culinary art"- Chris Owens.           ---------------------------------  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.

7) From: Rich
There have been several other oblique references to a roaster fire and 
shutting down the power and leaving the door shut has proved an 
effective fire suppression technique.  Also, if you just ignore the 
flames and smoke the roaster will also shut its self down when it 
detects the added heat.  Do not open door.
Marty Wooten wrote:
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8) From: Marty Wooten
Thank you Rich. It is good to hear it will shut down and it is effective as long as the door is not opened.
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From: Rich 
To: homeroast
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 4:28:45 PM
Subject: Re: +Behmor profiles for Tree Dried Natural??
There have been several other oblique references to a roaster fire and 
shutting down the power and leaving the door shut has proved an 
effective fire suppression technique.  Also, if you just ignore the 
flames and smoke the roaster will also shut its self down when it 
detects the added heat.  Do not open door.
Marty Wooten wrote:
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9) From: Marty Wooten
Jeff,
That is very good to hear. I appreciate the detail you provided. 
Marty
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From: Jeff Anderson 
To: homeroast
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:47:27 PM
Subject: Re: +Behmor profiles for Tree Dried Natural??
Marty...
It happened with my very first roast. There was a manufacturing defect in the drum which allowed a small pile of beans to build up on one side. When they caught fire they looked like a charcoal briquette burning. There were no flames, but obviously very hot. I hit the cool button and a huge amount of smoke appeared. I turned it off (hit the power button) and the fire went out almost immediately. I contacted Joe, and he assured me the roaster is OK. He told me to do a cleaning cycle and I'd be good to go.  I've done a dozen or so roasts since with no problems whatsoever. I'm not a very technical person, but in very basic terms I think there is a very effective fail safe system which protects the electrical components from damage, provided you respond quickly. 
The many cautions about letting the roasts go too far are very appropriate. Beans make a VERY hot fire. In this case there was a very small amount, half a handful at most (and a small hand at that). Left unattended I hate to think what could happen very quickly if just a quarter pound caught fire. But as long as you attend the roast, especially near the end, and in case of fire respond appropriately (power down and unplug the unit), there appears to be little danger, even of damaging the roaster. That impressed me. A lot of thought and excellent engineering went into the design.
Jeff
Marty Wooten wrote: 
Jeff 
 
Thank you for sharing your experience. Have you tried another roast since the fire, turning off and unplugging? If so, did everything work well?
Not that I hope to repeat your experience, but knowing too well it is all possible ;o)
 
Marty

10) From: Rich
Now as far as I am concerned, I have several small halon fire 
extinguishers.  They are no longer available as they "hurt the ozone" 
but they are a liquid to gas that kills fire instantly and cause no 
damage to life.  they were great.  I have used about  1/4 of one, 2 or 3 
ounces to put out a flaming lawn mower gas fire.  I was impressed.  If I 
set the Behmor on fire I will use a little halon on it.
Marty Wooten wrote:
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11) From: John Brown
is it just halon or does it also have Purple K type powder.  also a fire 
suppressant.   but it will cause some damage to electronics  if not 
cleaned up fast
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12) From: Rich
It is 100% halon. To be exact it is Halon 1211.  Purple K is potassium 
bicarbonate  or baking powder with potassium instead of sodium.  Either 
will ruin electronic switches and corrode many electrical traces.  The 
temp change caused by CO2 will cause breaks.  Many large computer 
centers are still protected by halon systems for just this reason.  If 
the systems actuate the owner id fined for hurting the ozone as well as 
having a real fire.
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13) From: John Brown
glad to see some things ain't changed since   i retired from the Navy in '85
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14) From: Tim Harvey
yeah, I wouldn't classify it as a full fire, as the cool didn't make it worse, just took a long time to cool.
Tim
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