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Topic: OT: my dog got attacked... need to share (32 msgs / 690 lines)
1) From: Lynne
You guys are like my family. This is way off topic, but for anyone who prays
(throw in some good thoughts, too, for those who don't)...
I brought my dogs (I have three) in the back yard this morning. My worst
nightmare happened - the woman who lives upstairs ('friend' of the landlord
- it's actually his apt. Don't know the story there, don't want or need to
know..) has dogs also - one is a pit bull.
Her friend let her dogs out w/out checking to see if we were there. The pit
attacked my Sammy - all my dogs are rescue dogs, Sammy is about 15 lbs,
prob. a Papillion.
The pit was tossing Sammy around like a rag doll. One of my sons was home
(thank God), and between his efforts & the owner's friend (she put her whole
fist in the pit's mouth to release it - my screams didn't help much, tho),
they got Sammy released.
The vet is prob operating right now. He doesn't have any broken bones, but
they are concerned about internal injuries. My son said we were really lucky
that the dog didn't grab his chest, otherwise he never would have survived.
It was the longest moments I ever experienced while they were trying to
release the pit's jaws.
I refuse to fill myself up with toxic feelings towards these people (my
landlord & the young woman who has the pit). They aren't bad - they are just
stupid, irresponsible...
Anyway, I'll deal with all that later. I just want my Sammy to be all right.
He's the sweetest dog ever...
Lynne
(going to roast some coffee by hand - most relaxing thing I can do right
now, besides praying...)

2) From: gin
Lynne:
Sammy will be fine. My dogs are now chanting the "heal dog" hymn they learned in church
last week...
all will be OK. please keep nothing but positive stuff going.
your right their are stupid people but the only thing that matters right now is Sammy.
please keep us in the know.
Buddy aka the moose and Beau aka yappy send their love
ginny
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3) From: gin
Lynne:
you and your son are OK, at the ranch I attempted to break up an in the house fight between two of my dogs and dumb me still have scars from 34 stitches ...
g
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4) From: James Leach
That's a terrible thing to experience.  I lost one of my two German
Shepherds to a fight between themselves.  I was able to seperate them but I
still lost the older one to internal injuries. It was two years ago next
week.  Your family and your dogs are in my thoughts!
mike
On Dec 13, 2007 11:19 AM, Lynne  wrote:
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5) From: Bonnie Polkinghorn
Dear Lynne,
Wow, my heart goes out to you and your dog, I'm sure you are in still in
shock.  Healing thoughts are being sent Sammy's way,
Bonnie

6) From: John Despres
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Lynne,
Lucy (my Boxer) and I will keep you and yours in our thoughts. Pits can 
be wonderful dogs if they're trained properly.
Lucy sends rawhide thoughts to Sammy.
John
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John A C Despres
Hug your kids
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7) From: Jason
Oh Lynne, that is terrible.  My best wishes and prayers to your family and
dogs.

8) From: James Leach
I also was injured when seperating my boys, not as significantly as you
were.  i'm sorry to hear that, too.  it is indeed not smart of us to
intervene with fighting animals, but it's very difficult to stand aside,
too.
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9) From: Les
I'll tell my 5 Pugs about it when I get home.  They have lots of  "worry"
lines on their faces, so they will take care of the worrying for Sammy.
Les
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10) From: jim jordan
Hi Lynne- Good luck for you and Sammy.  One of my rescue dogs was attacked about a month ago, we are still not sure what got her or how they got together.  She went missing about noon on a Sunday and showed up on Monday morning with a terrible wound on her leg.  One vet thought at least two 70-80 pound dogs got her.  Fortunately, Sugar is an Australian Cattle dog and as tough as can be.  We thought she would lose her leg but we go back next Tuesday to get the last stitches removed, she is doing well but did lose one toe.  I found out there was such a thing as a Board Certified Dog Surgeon, expensive but very good.
Best to you both from our pack.
Jim
Tucker the Worlds best all around dog
Freakishly Big Meko
Sugar the Red Snapper (down but not out)
Cassandra Cattledog Jordan
----- Original Message ----
From: Lynne 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:19:04 AM
Subject: +OT: my dog got attacked... need to share
You guys are like my family. This is way off topic, but for anyone who prays (throw in some good thoughts, too, for those who don't)...
I brought my dogs (I have three) in the back yard this morning. My worst nightmare happened - the woman who lives upstairs ('friend' of the landlord - it's actually his apt. Don't know the story there, don't want or need to know..) has dogs also - one is a pit bull. 
Her friend let her dogs out w/out checking to see if we were there. The pit attacked my Sammy - all my dogs are rescue dogs, Sammy is about 15 lbs, prob. a Papillion. 
The pit was tossing Sammy around like a rag doll. One of my sons was home (thank God), and between his efforts & the owner's friend (she put her whole fist in the pit's mouth to release it - my screams didn't help much, tho), they got Sammy released. 
The vet is prob operating right now. He doesn't have any broken bones, but they are concerned about internal injuries. My son said we were really lucky that the dog didn't grab his chest, otherwise he never would have survived. 
It was the longest moments I ever experienced while they were trying to release the pit's jaws.
I refuse to fill myself up with toxic feelings towards these people (my landlord & the young woman who has the pit). They aren't bad - they are just stupid, irresponsible... 
Anyway, I'll deal with all that later. I just want my Sammy to be all right. He's the sweetest dog ever...
Lynne
(going to roast some coffee by hand - most relaxing thing I can do right now, besides praying...)

11) From: Lynne
Thank you SO much, guys. I knew we had plenty of animal lovers in our group!
I know that pits need good, strong training. In a way, her owner is very
much like me - kinda laid back. NOT a good pick for someone whose chosen to
own a pit bull.
Landlord just called, apologized & said he'll take care of the bill (which
was a given, as far as I'm concerned). Yeah, I'm kinda in shock. The owner's
friend might have some injuries of her own, cuz she managed to put her whole
fist in the dog's mouth.
thanks to everyone... I'll let you know when I hear from the vet..
Lynne

12) From: Elliott H. O'Reilly
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Lynne, while always lurking, I don't often respond to list emails but your
email grabbed the pit of my stomach!  My Papillon Valentine, my two
Pomeranians (Red & Charlie) and myself are all praying for a quick and full
recovery for Sammy.  Valentine was a gift to myself more than 7 years ago
when I quit smoking and the only smoke to which she has been exposed has
come from roasting coffee or good things on the grill.  I honestly don't
know what I would do if my dogs were attacked but I can definitely empathize
with how you must be feeling!
Elliott O'Reilly

13) From: gin
Jim:
It was tuff not to attempt to separate them, one was 108 lbs the other 22 lbs, the 22 pounder was the winner and the one that chomped on my arm...
geez we humans are dumb sometime...
I was out to save "my little baby"
right.
g
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14) From: Brentley Beerline
Corky the whippet sends his regards, I told him about the incident and he looked worried.    He is 6 1/2 months old.
He has had some run-ins at the dog park and we now know exactly when to leave to prevent this sort of thing from happening.   Luckily we have a big dog partk where the pits and other dogs go, and a small dog park where he can roam for another couple of months (it is for 30lbs or less dogs).
On a brighter note, he knows Robert Yoder and likes him a lot.    :-)
Best of luck.
regards
Brentley (the human) and Corky (the whippet)
----- Original Message ----
From: Lynne 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:52:17 AM
Subject: Re: +OT: my dog got attacked... need to share
Thank you SO much, guys. I knew we had plenty of animal lovers in our group!
I know that pits need good, strong training. In a way, her owner is very much like me - kinda laid back. NOT a good pick for someone whose chosen to own a pit bull. 
Landlord just called, apologized & said he'll take care of the bill (which was a given, as far as I'm concerned). Yeah, I'm kinda in shock. The owner's friend might have some injuries of her own, cuz she managed to put her whole fist in the dog's mouth. 
thanks to everyone... I'll let you know when I hear from the vet..
Lynne

15) From: gin
Jim:
Sugar sounds like she is a strong dog. Bless her and thank goodness she came/got home.
g
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16) From: Dave Huddle
Lynne,
Our Chihuahua's, Gizmo & Gidget, send there best wishes for Sammy's
speedy and complete recovery!   (Together they weigh about the same as
Sammy.)
Cindy and  I also hope everything is OK for him.
That was a very scary scene you described.
Dave
Westerville, OH
On 12/13/07, Lynne  wrote:
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17) From: Lynne
Sammy update:
He had no damage to any internal organs, but the bite penetrated pretty
deep. She said that it cut through his body wall (this is new stuff to me)
pretty bad, as well as hurt some muscles bad.
They are sending him home with pain meds & antibiotic. The landlord called,
apologized profusely & will bring me down there to pick him up. He said
he'll also take care of the bill (guess that's better than me getting his
house in a lawsuit - ha!)
I'm not ignoring any of what should be their responsibility.... I need to
hold myself together. The vet said the next few days are crucial... need to
keep a good watch on him, and I can't let any emotions cause more stress
than I'm already experiencing.
I have a way of really internalizing stuff, and falling apart emotionally,
because I feel things so deeply. Right now I need to stay calm, so I can
help my little Sammy all I can.
(Emma had a real bad seizure last night, too - this might set her off more,
since I've noticed that stress triggers her seizures).
Oh, and Boston (I'm on the outskirts) is virtually shut down - snow has just
begun to fall - real bad storm is headed our way. The landlord has one of
those huge SUV's with a snow plow attached, so we can get to the vets, as
long as he gets here before they decide to close early!!
more later... thanks so much, everyone..
'
Lynne

18) From: Sean Cary
Hope Sammy does ok!
Sean
I have a dog at home I have never met...name is Buddy and he is a lab
mix - my wife has a kind heart. (she married me)
Can't wait to meet old Buddy.
On Dec 13, 2007 9:05 PM, Lynne  wrote:
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19) From: gin
Lynne:
Thanks for the update, great sign that Sammy can come home to heal.
Take care, only focus on familyand your puppies.
we are all holding you together!!
ginny
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20) From: gin
Sean:
I have a rescue dog named Buddy, aka the moose, hound, a bit of lab with a bit of rottie tossed in +'s 109 pound lap dog.
g
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21) From: Darliene Stanhope
Lynne,
My cats and I are praying for Sammy.
Darliene
On Dec 13, 2007 10:19 AM, Lynne  wrote:
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22) From: Rich
Watch his temperature and he should be fine.  Infection is the thing to 
worry about now.
Lynne wrote:
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23) From: Rich
Lynn, please keep us dog lovers updated on Sammy's status
Lynne wrote:
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24) From: Denis and Marjorie True
You have our Prayers!
Dennis, Marjorie and Lady (border collie/springer mix)
Lynne wrote:
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25) From: Lynne
I want to thank everyone - Sammy is on my lap right now. The next few days
are crucial - please keep
praying for my little angel.
When we first got him years ago, he was actually my youngest daughter's dog
(at one point she realized that I had more time to give him, since she'd be
going to college & all). We left a message, but since she had class today,
her phone was shut off.
Apparently, my son posted the info on his Myspace - my daughter's boyfriend
told her what had happened! Wow - you gotta love this technology... anyway,
with the snow, she can't get here - the natural reaction is that she wants
to be here to hold little Sammy boy (she admits, for her benefit, not his).
So he gets the drain removed on Mon., & the staples removed a wk later.
Landlord brought me down there, paid the bill. They said the pit is going (I
said, "Good.") & my kid is sending me links for pit rescues - I don't want
this problem passed on to someone else. Next time it could be a child...
Lynne
(I roasted some Sumatra Mandeling [a SM gift from my newly
homeroasted-converted friend] & made granola before we brought Sammy home.
My son thinks I'm nuts...)

26) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
Lynne,
Glad to hear Sammy is home. Animals are amazing in how quickly they  
heal. Someone said earlier infection is the main worry. I assume the  
vet gave some antibiotics? Be sure to follow your vet's instructions  
and I strongly suspect all will work out.
We sure do get attached to our animals. And for good reason!
dave
On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:52 PM, Lynne wrote:
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27) From: Barbara Greenspon
Oh, Lynne.  I am so sorry.  It must be a nightmare.  I'm praying that  
by the time I get through this thread I'll hear your dog is recovering  
well.
Barbara
On Dec 13, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Lynne wrote:
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28) From: Michael I
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Lynne,
 
I wish you and Sammy the best of luck.  I’m sure if I could get home =
to
Boston (flight cancelled due to storm, so stuck in DC, but there’s an =
Illy
caffé in my hotel, so it might be all right) my cat would wish him =
well,
too, though she generally doesn’t like other animals, or most people.
 
Stupid people can be so frustrating.  I think you’re much more =
understanding
than I would have been.
 
-AdkMike  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Lynne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:53 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +OT: my dog got attacked... need to share
 
I want to thank everyone - Sammy is on my lap right now. The next few =
days
are crucial - please keep 
praying for my little angel.
When we first got him years ago, he was actually my youngest daughter's =
dog
(at one point she realized that I had more time to give him, since she'd =
be
going to college & all). We left a message, but since she had class =
today,
her phone was shut off. 
Apparently, my son posted the info on his Myspace - my daughter's =
boyfriend
told her what had happened! Wow - you gotta love this technology... =
anyway,
with the snow, she can't get here - the natural reaction is that she =
wants
to be here to hold little Sammy boy (she admits, for her benefit, not =
his). 
So he gets the drain removed on Mon., & the staples removed a wk later.
Landlord brought me down there, paid the bill. They said the pit is =
going (I
said, "Good.") & my kid is sending me links for pit rescues - I don't =
want
this problem passed on to someone else. Next time it could be a child... =
Lynne
(I roasted some Sumatra Mandeling [a SM gift from my newly
homeroasted-converted friend] & made granola before we brought Sammy =
home.
My son thinks I'm nuts...)

29) From: Sandra Andina
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My prayers for Sammy's full recovery.
Sandy
On Dec 13, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Lynne wrote:
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Sandy Andina
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My prayers for Sammy's full =
recovery.Sandy
On Dec 13, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Lynne =
wrote:
You guys are like my family. This is way off topic, but = for anyone who prays (throw in some good thoughts, too, for those who = don't)... I brought my dogs (I have three) in the back yard this = morning. My worst nightmare happened - the woman who lives upstairs = ('friend' of the landlord - it's actually his apt. Don't know the story = there, don't want or need to know..) has dogs also - one is a pit bull. = Her friend let her dogs out w/out checking to see if we were = there. The pit attacked my Sammy - all my dogs are rescue dogs, Sammy is = about 15 lbs, prob. a Papillion. The pit was tossing Sammy = around like a rag doll. One of my sons was home (thank God), and between = his efforts & the owner's friend (she put her whole fist in the = pit's mouth to release it - my screams didn't help much, tho), they got = Sammy released. The vet is prob operating right now. He doesn't = have any broken bones, but they are concerned about internal injuries. = My son said we were really lucky that the dog didn't grab his chest, = otherwise he never would have survived. It was the longest = moments I ever experienced while they were trying to release the pit's = jaws. I refuse to fill myself up with toxic feelings towards = these people (my landlord & the young woman who has the pit). They = aren't bad - they are just stupid, irresponsible... Anyway, I'll = deal with all that later. I just want my Sammy to be all right. He's the = sweetest dog ever... Lynne (going to roast some coffee by = hand - most relaxing thing I can do right now, besides praying...) = Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = --Apple-Mail-6-267501198--

30) From: Treshell
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First my prayers are with you and the others who have suffered so very much
in the last day.
Fighting dogs --  One thing to carry if there is that possibility is a larg=
e
container of black pepper.  Throw the pepper at the nose-eye area then pull
your dog from the back backwards.  With luck there are two people to take
the back legs of each dog.  Don¹t try and get between any part of the dog
fronts.  If you are near where there is a door pull there and start closing
door on their heads.  At some point they have to break.  A good pony crop
works well too.
Be safe
treshell

31) From: Christopher Swingley
Greetings!
* Treshell  [2007-Dec-14 22:44 AKST]:
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Also, covering their heads with a blanket / jacket / etc. sometimes will
get them to separate.  If there are two people, pull on a single hind
leg of each dog and they'll come apart.  Something about losing their
balance and possibly being flipped, I think.
Cheers,
Chris
-- 
Christopher S. Swingley          cswingle
Intl. Arctic Research Center
University of Alaska Fairbanks  http://people.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle/

32) From: Lynne
Just getting caught up on a bit of my email while Sammy - and the other two
dogs -
sleep.
These seem like good suggestions - only problem here is - we are talking on=
e
dog (my Sammy) being a little, tiny dog (he is between 12 - 15 lbs), and th=
e
other,
the pit bull, being a much larger - and stronger dog. Remember, the
attacking dog's
head is probably just a bit smaller than all of Sammy. His whole body was
actually
in this dog's mouth (my son told me that he was fighting back - although I
never
saw that. My little toughie!). Since the dog is a pit bull, and the jaws
lock, I doubt
that any amount of lifting her legs would have done anything...
The other thing is, there was no time to run in the house to get anything
like pepper or
a blanket (good for anyone to think about this ahead of time, though, just
in case).
The dog would have killed him by then. I am so grateful that my son has (I
am sure) angels
watching out for him, because this dog could have killed him.
We've had a real nor'easter here, so things are at a standstill. But I hear=
d
through the
grapevine that neighbors are going to call the police. If they don't within
a few days, I
am going to call (I've had time to rest, & calm down now) - the next time i=
t
could be a child.
Fortunately, Sammy is healing, although he's terrified whenever he hears
that dog bark, or
he hears anyone walk upstairs. Poor baby shakes like a leaf, and scratches
my leg for me to
pick him up.
Lynne
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