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Topic: Chaff reduction was +Fires in Behmor Was -Behmor profiles for... (2 msgs / 126 lines)
1) From: Robert Yoder
Hi Rich,
 
I intended to suggest an alternative method of connecting a shop vac to a c=
olander which can be done at essentially no cost (not to mention avoiding a=
 trip to big orange)!  It will remove chaff at the same time as it carries =
out its cooling duties.
 
Happy Roasting!
 
robert> From: rich-mail> To: homeroast> S=
ubject: Re: +Fires in Behmor Was -Behmor profiles for...> Date: Fri, 14 Dec=
 2007 17:58:40 -0600> > But does it remove the rest of the chaff? That was/=
is the question...> > Robert Yoder wrote:> > John,> > > > I found a stiff c=
ardboard box, taped all seams with duct tape, cut a > > circle to fit the b=
ottom of a colander on one clear side, then cut a > > hole for the suction =
end of my shop vac in one side of the box. Cools > > the beans in an instan=
t!> > > > robert yoder> > > > > > -----------------------------------------=
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To: homeroast> > Subject: Re: +Fires in Behmor Was -B=
ehmor profiles for...> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:44:03 -0500> > > > I hav=
e a bit of chaff left in/on the beans after completion and> > today came up=
 with an idea of how to collect it. I roast in the> > basement with an exha=
ust fan in a Gene Cafe and for even smaller> > batches a FR8+. I've been si=
mply rolling the beans around a colander> > and letting the chaff fall. Thi=
s is messy and with a bit of static> > electricity, tough to clean up. My i=
dea is to build a colander with> > a conical base that attaches to a small =
shop vac. I've been meaning> > to buy one exclusively for my roasting stati=
on to clean out my> > roasters and work area. The big orange store has lots=
 of adapters so> > building this shouldn't be too difficult. Anyway, the id=
ea is to> > have this funnel that seals at the underside of the lip of the>=
 > colander with a vacuum hose attached to the bottom sucking the chaff> > =
through the holes and collecting it at the same time. Might even> > help wi=
th the final cooling. I think there are large automotive> > funnels for col=
lecting oil so all I need to do match a colander to a> > funnel - the rest =
should be easy.> > > > Thoughts, anyone?> > > > John> > > > Brett Mason wro=
te:> > > > Jeff's original post doesn't cause me concern regarding fire, bu=
t it> > does elevate a concern in drums per se - there isn't really a good>=
 > chaff collection mechanism in my drum, or in any of the BBQ drums that> =
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be implemented in a drum?> > > > THx,> > Brett> > > > On 12/14/07, Sandra A=
ndina   wrote:> > > > > =
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to> > fall out and burn falls out and can be dumped before it gets a chance=
 to> > burn. Save those beans and fragments for an open method like wok or =
heatgun.> > Sandy> > > > > > On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Rich wrote:> > I =
don't think you can burn anything down with a Bemor fire except the> > elec=
tronics INSIDE the Behmor. I would suggest that you carefully re read> > th=
e posts you are basing your incorrect assumptions on. Your panic peddling> =
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ee> > on this list.> > > > Homeroaster wrote:> > I'd be a bit worried if I =
were Joe Behm. All these reports of fire> > happening in a machine that spe=
cifically says not to use it outdoors. Man,> > if someone burns his house d=
own with one of these things...it will be a bad> > day for the Behmor. It's=
 not such a big deal to have a small fire, or even> > a large fire in a gri=
ll roaster, outdoors, but an indoor roaster, with a> > fire is scary. I don=
't care whether the machine shuts off and contains the> > fire or not, it's=
 scary when unexpected fire is in a home. How many, even> > on this list in=
 the few weeks since this thing has been released have had> > fires already=
? Several. Not a good sign.> >

2) From: Rich
I have found that if you force air up through the beans in sufficient 
volume to lift them that the excess chaff is removed, in a somewhat 
uncontrolled manner.  It takes some planning to prevent bean loss also. 
  Drawing air through the beans and then agitating them seems to remove 
some of the chaff but not all and is labor intensive.
Robert Yoder wrote:
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