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Topic: My presto died..what to buy now? (23 msgs / 544 lines)
1) From: Ron Feroni
Yep, died.  It was hardly ever used at that.  I know alot of people have ha=
d the same thing happen and wondered what you all did about it.  I did like=
 this machine too, just not the carafe.  
 
I did find some info saying this machine is touchy when it comes to power s=
urges/electrical nuances.  This is the second coffee pot that died plugged =
into the same outlet in my house.  First was a bunn.  Has me wondering if a=
nything is wrong with the outlet....
 
Anyway, time to get a new pot now.  Any suggestions?  I'm thinking of the T=
echnivorm but not really sure.  Also was wondering if there are any others =
for consideration out there.
 
ron
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2) From: Eddie Dove
Ron,
Sorry you Presto died.
If you are looking for another drip brewer, then the Technivorms are
"King of the Mountain."  They do only one thing, which is brew coffee,
and they do it very well.  No timers, no clocks, no other electronics
to go kaput!  Also, everything comes apart easily for cleaning.
I make three pots of coffee every morning with the Technivorm (and
Swissgold) filter.  If it were to die and I couldn't repair it, I
would definitely by another.
Eddie
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Home Coffee Roasting Blog and Referencehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On Dec 21, 2007 8:41 AM, Ron Feroni  wrote:
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3) From: Barry Luterman
Bite the bullet and get The TV it's the last coffee pot you will have to buy
On Dec 21, 2007 4:41 AM, Ron Feroni  wrote:
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4) From: Sean Cary
I think I would check that outlet out however...no sense plugging in a
new high end maker and having it let the magic blue smoke out of the
wire.
On a side note - I had a Presto in daily use since Feb of 06...got it
at the PX for $20.00.  It gets used every weekday when I am home and
every day since I left in Jul...and I am sure my wife is not taking
the loving care that I do for it.  Still chuggin along almost 2 years
later.
I have three more that I got for less then $20.00 at K MART on the
clearance rack.  For < 80.00 I will have enough to last me for quite
the while.
Sean
Ba Humbug...until Feb.
On Dec 21, 2007 9:26 PM, Barry Luterman  wrote:
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5) From: Bill Hill
Ron,
I know you're looking for a new drip brewer, but I'll just put my
thoughts in that I love my press pot!  I love the low-tech nature of
it...no electronics to mess up.  And I love that I have a ritual that
I have to go through every morning, it helps to wake me up!  Fill
boiler with water, get out scale, get out press, get out timer, weigh
coffee, grind at correct sound from boiler, dump grounds and coffee
into press, swirl at 60 seconds, press at 120... I'm awake enough to
taste it!
Anyway, just my thoughts.  Good look on the new coffee maker.
Bill
On 12/21/07, Sean Cary  wrote:
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6) From: Ron Feroni
Bill,
 
        Actually, I use a press pot every day.  The wife likes her no hassl=
e drip.  I'm working on converting her its just taking some time...
 
ron> From: coffeewyo> To: homeroast> Subjec=
t: Re: +My presto died..what to buy now?> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:12:26 -=
0700> > Ron,> I know you're looking for a new drip brewer, but I'll just pu=
t my> thoughts in that I love my press pot! I love the low-tech nature of> =
it...no electronics to mess up. And I love that I have a ritual that> I hav=
e to go through every morning, it helps to wake me up! Fill> boiler with wa=
ter, get out scale, get out press, get out timer, weigh> coffee, grind at c=
orrect sound from boiler, dump grounds and coffee> into press, swirl at 60 =
seconds, press at 120... I'm awake enough to> taste it!> > Anyway, just my =
thoughts. Good look on the new coffee maker.> Bill> > On 12/21/07, Sean Car=
y  wrote:> > I think I would check that outlet out howeve=
r...no sense plugging in a> > new high end maker and having it let the magi=
c blue smoke out of the> > wire.> >> > On a side note - I had a Presto in d=
aily use since Feb of 06...got it> > at the PX for $20.00. It gets used eve=
ry weekday when I am home and> > every day since I left in Jul...and I am s=
ure my wife is not taking> > the loving care that I do for it. Still chuggi=
n along almost 2 years> > later.> >> > I have three more that I got for les=
s then $20.00 at K MART on the> > clearance rack. For < 80.00 I will have e=
nough to last me for quite> > the while.> >> > Sean> > Ba Humbug...until Fe=
b.> >> > On Dec 21, 2007 9:26 PM, Barry Luterman  wrot=
e:> > > Bite the bullet and get The TV it's the last coffee pot you will ha=
ve to buy> > >> > >> > > On Dec 21, 2007 4:41 AM, Ron Feroni  wrote:> > >> > > >> > > > Yep, died. It was hardly ever used at tha=
t. I know alot of people have> > > had the same thing happen and wondered w=
hat you all did about it. I did> > > like this machine too, just not the ca=
rafe.> > > >> > > > I did find some info saying this machine is touchy when=
 it comes to power> > > surges/electrical nuances. This is the second coffe=
e pot that died plugged> > > into the same outlet in my house. First was a =
bunn. Has me wondering if> > > anything is wrong with the outlet....> > > >=
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 the> > > Technivorm but not really sure. Also was wondering if there are a=
ny others> > > for consideration out there.> > > >> > > > ron> > > >> > > >=
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7) From: raymanowen
If it were to die and I couldn't repair it, I would definitely buy another.
[For parts? Just tag it "Hold for Ray," and when I get back to Blucksi,
we'll have a coffee bust and fix it.] -ro
On Dec 21, 2007 9:11 AM, Eddie Dove 
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8) From: Eddie Dove
Deal.
Eddie
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Home Coffee Roasting Blog and Referencehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On Dec 21, 2007 7:41 PM,   wrote:
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9) From: Jerry Procopio
I've been using a Techinivorm daily for two years now.  Like my wife, 
I'd marry her all over again!  The TV is that good.
JavaJerry
RK Drum roasting in Chesapeake, VA
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10) From: Bryan Wray
Better late than never to reply right?  Busy all weekend and didn't get a chance to stay up to date with the list, so 192 messages later I am starting to post some replies.
Here is a bid for a non-TV brewer (gasp! from the list).
Check out the Capresso CoffeeTeam Therm.  Conical burr grinder built in, 200F brew temp and straight into a thermal carafe.  Pretty neat design, but I have yet to check one out, so I can't speak from personal experience, just that it seems like a great design and idea.  All the usual online vendors carry them, contact me off-list if you need a recommendation for a vendor.
-Bry
 
Bryan Wray
NaDean's Coffee Place/
Dino's Coffee Lounge
Kalamazoo, MI
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11) From: an iconoclast
I'm late, too.  I use a Krups Moka Brew and can't be without it.  They are
making them again. They make an intense, rich cup of coffee.  I found drip
to be too light after using the KMB.
Take care,
Ann
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12) From: Brian Kamnetz
That's the problem with the KMB and moka pots, Ann. They spoil you for
"regular" coffee.
Brian
On Dec 24, 2007 3:25 PM, an iconoclast  wrote:
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13) From: miKe mcKoffee
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14) From: Brian Kamnetz
miKe,
I would LOVE to try a well pulled Americano some time! (Maybe
Wednesday!) Who knows, maybe after that I will be spoiled for moka pot
coffee....
Brian
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15) From: Jared
I bought a Technivorm this last year and don't know if I would again.  No
doubt it makes great coffee and I like its oddly attractive style.  What I
don't really like is that to make really good coffee out of it it is as much
work as a pour over.  1- It doesn't turn off when done brewing. 2- It has a
bunch of holes for water to come out but they all form into one stream so I
find myself standing next to it moving the water spout and tuning the coffee
to get even saturation.  3- You need to be present to move the cone from no
drip at first to half drip once it fills up. 4- There are just too many
loose parts making it cumbersome at times.  water reservoir lid, cone lid,
cone, thermal pot lid, thermos base are all independent pieces.  I know
these are minor gripes and you could just turn it on and come back without
messing with the process.   I think a chemex is about the same or less work
and I think I can get an even better cup out of it.  Jared (Merry Christmas,
Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa and Merry Festivus for the rest of us)
On Dec 21, 2007 8:41 AM, Ron Feroni  wrote:
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16) From: raymanowen
"...try a well pulled Americano some time!"
"Well pulled" disqualifies me! -ro
details...
On Dec 24, 2007 7:03 PM, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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17) From: Michael I
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I'll second Bryan's recommendation.
My only drip brewer at the moment is a Capresso MT500, which is similar to
most of the rest of their line (CoffeeTeam, ST600, CoffeeTEC).  No grinder
on mine, it's just a brewer, but a brewer I would definitely recommend.  And
that's just because of its simplicity - it brews at 200+ degrees into a
thermal carafe that holds the temps for hours.  That's really all you're
looking for, to hit the right temperature and not cook the coffee
afterwards.  With a SwissGold filter, it makes a great cup.  I can't compare
it to the TV, but it works for me.
In fact, I'm drinking some delicious Panama Carmen Estate from it right now.
But that coffee would taste great even if I were to use Aaron's brewing
methods.
-AdkMike  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Bryan Wray
Sent: 12/24/2007 10:36 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +My presto died..what to buy now?
Better late than never to reply right?  Busy all weekend and didn't get a
chance to stay up to date with the list, so 192 messages later I am starting
to post some replies.
Here is a bid for a non-TV brewer (gasp! from the list).
Check out the Capresso CoffeeTeam Therm.  Conical burr grinder built in,
200F brew temp and straight into a thermal carafe.  Pretty neat design, but
I have yet to check one out, so I can't speak from personal experience, just
that it seems like a great design and idea.  All the usual online vendors
carry them, contact me off-list if you need a recommendation for a vendor.
-Bry
Bryan Wray
NaDean's Coffee Place/
Dino's Coffee Lounge
Kalamazoo, MI
"It is my hope that people realize that coffee is more than just a caffeine
delivery service, it can be a culinary art"- Chris Owens.  
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  your homepage.

18) From: Ross
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Jared,
Get a Bunn, (A10) for almost 1/2 the price, it gets a bad rap on a flat =
filter but water brewing temp is good- I have checked it, a sprinkler =
head makes a great pourover machine.  The downside is it won't do less =
than about 4 cups, it takes a little time to find the sweet spot of a =
grind and water quantity that will not cause the coffee to overflow the =
basket (I use three heaping blue scoops, about 27to30 on the Rocky, with =
about 36 oz water.  Once you get it dialed in it is a very great =
machine.  I have every kind of coffee maker (every kind I have heard of =
anyway) and it is the one I use the most, because it is easy to use and =
clean and gives good results.
Regards,
Ross

19) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
Jared,
    Count me in as a second to Ross on the Bunn.  My parents gifted me 
with a VP17 for Christmas 2006 and I've absolutely loved it over the 
past year.  Brew temp (measured at the shower-head) is spot on.  Coffee 
tastes great!  If I need less than 1/2 a pot, I typically go with either 
my Cory vac-pot or Chemex pour over.
    Best of luck in your choice!
All,
    A Very Merry Christmas (or what ever holiday your family celebrates 
at this time of year) to all of you and your families!  Thank you all 
for the education you've given me over this past year!
    pat----
   http://www.sklenar.info/coffee.htmlRoss wrote:
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20) From: Jared
Thanks for the input Ross and Patrick but I think I have been confused with
Ron who is planning to buy a new brewer and is asking opinions.  Although my
TV isn't quite as convenient as I had hoped for my set it and forget it wife
we won't be replacing the TV anytime soon.  Jared
On Dec 25, 2007 6:29 PM, Patrick R. Sklenar  wrote:
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21) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
Jared wrote:
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Jared ,
    Definitely possible.  I somehow missed the original posting in this 
string (how many posts/day  on this list!? :o ) and therefore was going 
on the last one I'd seen.  Mea culpa. :)
    Before my parents surprised me with the Bunn, the TV was what I 
planned to get, so I certainly wouldn't recommend moving away from it.  
But, if someone were just starting out or had an old drip brewer die on 
them, I'd happily recommend they look at the Bunn line.as well as the 
TV's. :)
     Merry Christmas!
    pat----
   http://www.sklenar.info/coffee.html

22) From: Homeroaster
If you compare the flavor of a cup of coffee made with a Bunn, side by side, 
with a cup of coffee made properly with a manual pourover such as Melitta or 
Chemex, you'll see what you are missing.  The Bunn makes a tasty cup of 
coffee, is fast, and easy to clean, but you're not getting all the flavor 
from the beans.  And unless you brew multiple times each day, you're using 
water that's been kept at brewing temperature for all that time from the 
last pot made.  Nothing like flat, lifeless water to brew your specialty 
coffee with.
I had a Bunn in my house back when I was married.  My wife wanted the 
convenience and was willing to sacrifice the flavor.  She would always get 
up before me and brew in the Bunn.  When I got up, I would brew using a 
Chemex manual pourover.  Brewed fresh, side by side, there was no 
comparison.
I did improve the taste a bit by using a #6 Melitta cone on top of the Bunn 
carafe.  It fit like it was designed to be there, and the height was perfect 
to slide under the brewhead.
You can see the Bunn in the first two pictures here...http://www.homeroaster.com/setup2.htmlIt still was not as good as my Chemex brew though.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

23) From: raymanowen
I timed my Bunn Office brewer- from the time I passed it and turned on the
heater, to the time I had a full carafe of Bill Boyer's Denver Blend coffee:
6 minutes. Back in the day, that's all I knew for sure. Now, I'm not even
sure of that. -ro
On Dec 26, 2007 9:04 AM, Homeroaster  wrote:
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