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1) From: Loyd Blankenship
If you're hard-core about your sharpening (and are a woodworker so you
can justify it better), there is no better system than the Tormek
http://www.tormek.com/).I got it for chisels and plane/jointer
blades, but it does a fantastic job on knives, scissors, etc.
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2) From: Sean Cary
Scary Sharp...much cheaper then a Tormek, and I can put a mirror on a
chisel and plane iron in short order.  The Scary Sharp process is my
staple for sharpening...
Google "Scary Sharp" - pretty funny author for one of the articles.
Sean
DYING to get back in my wood shop.
On Dec 29, 2007 8:16 PM, Loyd Blankenship  wrote:
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Sean M. Cary
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3) From: Jim Wheeler
Lansky sharpening kits work well for most people.  They include
several hones and a fixture for holding the blade and hone at the
proper angles.  We have a few of the diamond hone Lansky kits around
the house for quick use.
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Jim in Skull Valley
On Dec 29, 2007 10:48 AM, Jeff Anderson  wrote:
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4) From: Mike Chester
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The Warthog V - Sharp works very well and is relatively easy to use.  =
They are available at:http://www.warthogsharp.com/products.php?CategoryID=1They don't list their prices online, which I normally don't like, but =
when I spoke with them they said the reason is that they have some =
independent dealers that they don't want to compete with.  IIRC they run =
under $100.  I suggest the marble or granite base as that adds a lot of =
stability.
Mike Chester

5) From: Rich
Can you handle something like $25.00 or slightly less?  The one I am 
using is the model M, top one on the list.  I paid less than $10.00 when 
I bought it back in the early 80s.  It is fast and easy to use.  A lot 
of these other hones are neither.http://www.eze-lap.com/product/roundds.htmJeff Anderson wrote:
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6) From: Michael Wade
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Jeff:  I use an old Chef's Choice model 110.  I've had it for years and =
it's still going strong.  I keep it plugged in on the counter, ready for =
use.  Try as I might, I can't get family members to treat an edge with =
respect, so rather than become a tyrant, I reserve a couple of pet =
knives for my exclusive use, and put a quick edge on anything else I =
need to use.
The two different angled hones on the right will put a very usable edge =
on any knife that isn't too badly abused.
It has a coarse(!) wheel on the left that will reshape a horribly abused =
knife into a (very) rough edge; then enough passes through the hones =
will make it into a very decent edge, but it will never be pretty.  I =
restored an old Dexter butcher's knife that had been mutilated on a =
grindstone to become one of my favorite knives.  After a lot of passes =
on the hones it's still ugly as sin, but it works beautifully.
Just another option,
Michael

7) From: Brian Kamnetz
Rich,
In using a Model M, do you have to eye-ball the angle, or is there
some sort of device that will help to maintain the right bevel on the
blade edge?
Thanks,
Brian
On Dec 29, 2007 1:34 PM, Rich  wrote:
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8) From: Rich
I just eyeball it.  There is no real secret to it.  It is a skill like 
using a steel.  Very easy to do.  Theer is minimal force requirred as 
the diamonds do the cutting.  The handle serves as a guard to preclude 
the massive loss of blood also.  The sharpener comes with directions but 
with any of these types of hone you move the blade in small circles 
across the hone and down the length of the edge.  Thee were pictures 
that made all of this clear.  If you make a wire edge you can feel it so 
you do it over.
I have been given many whiz-bang knife sharpeners and I keep coming back 
to this one.  I also have a whet stone sharpener for chisels and plane 
blades.  This little tool does all of the knife sharpening.
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9) From: raymanowen
"DYING to get back in my wood shop"
No, no, brother. -ro
On Dec 29, 2007 10:31 AM, Sean Cary  wrote:
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"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

10) From: Frank Parth
I'll double Sean's recommendation on the Scary Sharp approach. It's cheap, easy, and does an incredible job sharpening 
chisels, planes, and knives. It does, however, take effort. For me it's a perfect thing to do while watching afootball 
game on a weekend afternoon.
Frank Parth
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11) From: Dave
I regularly use what may be the Model G and follow up by honing on a
steel.By not letting my knives get dull, it is easy and quick, even
with hard steel blades.
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Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
On Dec 29, 2007 10:34 AM, Rich  wrote:
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12) From: ray
Here you go will last a life time and works great it's a full size machine
and takes the mystery out of your knife sharpening and puts a edge on any
knife you own and if need be can be used with diamond honeshttp://www.wolffind.com/CB362A0ACDA64608A17831C194B2DDE4.asp?p_keyÄ6EA252082242F4B02F10E0E74A0FE7&type=auto_single&path=home+%3E+KNIFE+SHARPENERS+%3E+
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13) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 12:02 PM 12/29/2007, you wrote:
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The key to the Lansky system (really any method) is the technique.  I 
wrote up the way I do it, which seems to work pretty well for most folks:http://www.svandyke.com/rants/sharpen.htm

14) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 12:05 PM 12/29/2007, you wrote:
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That's what I bought the ever-indulgent wife at the 2005 BLADE Show 
in Atlanta.  She just runs any knife she grabs through it a few times 
before and after each use and they stay nice and sharp.  As noted 
elsewhere, I use a somewhat more complicated setup for my knives, but 
the WartHog is *great* for routine maintenance of the kitchen blades. 

15) From: Sandra Andina
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16) From: Edward Rasmussen
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Sandy, I don't know if this will help on your email program, but with my
email (MS Outlook), when I get a very long URL which has been broken
into several lines, I go to the edit menu on that message and enable
editing.  Then I place my cursor at the end of the first line of the URL
and hit the delete key.  This removes the carriage return which got
inserted at some point in the mailing process and joins the orphan line
to the main URL.  I keep repeating that process until all of the
offending carriage returns have been removed and I have one compete
working URL.
 
Hope that works for you.
 
Ed
From: Sandra Andina [mailto:sandraandina] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 1:04 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +OT: Sharpening
 
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display a box with the error message that the "SKU could not be found or
product discontinued." No matter how often I clicked "OK" (the only
button displayed) the box reappeared and I could not close the page. I
had to Force-Quit Safari to get rid of it!
On Dec 30, 2007, at 11:15 AM, ray wrote:
Here you go will last a life time and works great it's a full size
machine
and takes the mystery out of your knife sharpening and puts a edge on
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17) From: Brian Kamnetz
Here you go, Sandy:http://tinyurl.com/ywe2ybBrian
On Dec 30, 2007 3:03 PM, Sandra Andina  wrote:
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18) From: Brian Kamnetz
Ray,
A favorite knife of mine has 1/4 inch serrations. It's hard to find a
sharpener that can do serrations. Can the sharpener you mentioned
sharpen my serrated blade, do you think?
Thanks,
Brian
On Dec 30, 2007 12:15 PM, ray  wrote:
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19) From: raymanowen
You are a gentleman and a scholar, sir. Both the original and the tinyurl
wurkt good -ro
On Dec 30, 2007 3:07 PM, Brian Kamnetz  wrote:
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-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

20) From: Sandra Andina
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Thanks, Ed. I use Mac Mail for OS X (Leopard) most of the time and  
sometimes Entourage. But I'll give it a try and see what happens.
Happy New Year,
Sandy
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Sandy Andina
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Thanks, Ed. I use Mac Mail for =
OS X (Leopard) most of the time and sometimes Entourage. But I'll give =
it a try and see what happens.Happy New =
Year,Sandy
On Dec 30, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Edward =
Rasmussen wrote:
, I don’t know if this will help on = your email program, but with my email (MS Outlook), when I get a very = long URL which has been broken into several lines, I go to the edit menu = on that message and enable editing.  Then I place my cursor at the = end of the first line of the URL and hit the delete key.  This = removes the carriage return which got inserted at some point in the = mailing process and joins the orphan line to the main URL.  I keep = repeating that process until all of the offending carriage returns have = been removed and I have one compete working = URL. Hope that = works for you.Ed Sandra Andina [mailto:sandraandina]  Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 = 1:04 PM To: Subject: Re: +OT: = SharpeningThe URL caused the Wolf = Industries page to partially load--and then display a box with the error = message that the "SKU could not be found or product discontinued." No = matter how often I clicked "OK" (the only button displayed) the box = reappeared and I could not close the page. I had to Force-Quit Safari to = get rid of it!On Dec 30, 2007, at 11:15 AM, ray = wrote:Here you go will last a = life time and works great it's a full size machine and takes the = mystery out of your knife sharpening and puts a edge on any knife you = own and if need be can be used with diamond hones http://www.wolffind.com/CB362A0ACDA64608A17831C194B2DDE4.asp?p_key=C46=EA252082242F4B02F10E0E74A0FE7&type=auto_single&path=home+%E+KN= IFE+SHARPENERS+%3E+EZE+SHARP+KNIFE+SHARPENER&spath=home+%3E+KNIFE+SH= ARPENERS&cat_id=9EA5F7B10DA9487FAAA20A345CA618A8&pc_key=58E361= D8F7D54324954E01D5BCD59BDC&pcs_key=&nm=EZE%20SHARP%20KNIFE%20S= HARPENER&retpage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewolffind%2Ecom%2F6A370D81538D489= 4B415E84C996E82EB%2EaspSandy = Andina Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = --Apple-Mail-12--428883281--

21) From: Sandra Andina
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Thanks!
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Sandy Andina
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2007, at 4:07 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote:
Here you = go, Sandy: http://tinyurl.com/ywe2ybBr= ian On Dec 30, 2007 3:03 PM, Sandra Andina = <sandraandina> wrote: The URL = caused the Wolf Industries page to partially load--and then = display a box with the error = message that the "SKU could not be found or = product discontinued." No = matter how often I clicked "OK" (the only = button displayed) the box = reappeared and I could not close the page. I had = to Force-Quit Safari to get = rid of it!= homeroast mailing = listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo = change your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, = unsvbscribes) go to =http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings= Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = --Apple-Mail-13--428740937--

22) From: Bill
Brian,
The Spyderco Sharpmaker that I recommended can do serrations.  Can't speak
for any of the other sharpeners that anyone has recommended...http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?productwBill
On Dec 30, 2007 7:47 PM, Sandra Andina  wrote:
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23) From: Angelo
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to trim the URL... You can drag the applet into the toolbar and snip 
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24) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 04:12 PM 12/30/2007, you wrote:
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Pretty much any of the 'rod' style sharpeners (Sharpmaker, Lansky, 
etc.) can do serrations *but* you have to use them right.
With the Sharpmaker you use the corners of the triangular 
hones.  With the Lansky they have a 'V' hone for doing serrations.

25) From: ray
You can use round files it comes with an attachment for files flat or round
this is a big machine not like any lansky or other type its big but hand
operated and has degree marks on it so you can adjust it easily and I use
it first ruff stone both sides then fine stone you can also get v shaped
stones or round file type stones to use with this machine it's a sweet
machine and is 1/2 price of other places to get it is about $200.00 the
place I posted is the best buy on the net for this sharpener it is the Mac
truck of sharpeners' dose  a great job after one time through the thing I
use 20 degree for first angle and 25 for knife finish of the blade with fine
stones and then for months it holds an edge just dressing it now n then with
a steel

26) From: Brian Kamnetz
Thanks, Ray. I regard you as the king of all things related to
machines, repair, and maintenance. This sounds like another thing
(like the Giant Trosser) I don't need and can't pass up.
Brian
On Dec 31, 2007 9:24 AM, ray  wrote:
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27) From: Ross
Brian,
Not Ray, but I just throw away serrated knives and buy new ones.  For your 
amusement, here is a link to a way to sharpen lots of knives with an 
emphasis on necropsy equipment he shows a way to sharpen serrated knives 
that affirms my method as the best. http://gpvec.unl.edu/filesdatabase/files/feedlot/sharp1.htmRoss
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28) From: Brian Kamnetz
Ross,
Wow, that is a thorough look at knife sharpening! Thanks for sharing it.
Brian
On Dec 31, 2007 4:57 PM, Ross  wrote:
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29) From: Brian Kamnetz
Ray,
Would the round files come with this sharpening machine? If not, if
the round files need to be ordered separately, can you suggest which
one(s) might be useful?
Thanks,
Brian
On Dec 31, 2007 9:24 AM, ray  wrote:
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30) From: ray
There are lots of files that will fill the bill even chain saw round files
to rat tail files or triangle shape files and stones just about any shape
you can dream of here is a link to just one stone sight or google for them.http://www.shoprutlandtool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId001&storeId001&langId=-1&productId…911#
hope this helps 
Ray

31) From: ray
Sorry no files come with the machine but an adapter to screw on the guide
rod dose..............

32) From: Brian Kamnetz
Thanks, Ray.
Brian
On Jan 1, 2008 11:12 PM, ray  wrote:
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