I'm generally never one to complain about OT stuff, but we've drifted
into politics, and are rapidly approaching a signal/noise ratio of < 1
(at which point it becomes impossible to tell that this is a coffee
list). The vitriol in the posts has also risen to a critical level.
If I want an argument about politics, I only have to go so far as my
in-laws, or hundreds of newsgroups, blogs, etc online, and doing it
here has already degraded into name calling, and can only lead to bad
feelings, bruised egos, and coffee roasted too far into second crack.