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Topic: small shop roaster (9 msgs / 732 lines)
1) From: kevin creason
Hmmm... my head is spinning-- help me.
I need input from more equipped minds:
If a great condition Diedrich IR3 and afterburner actually does come up for
sale and is offered to me, what is a good price for that setup?
How does it compare to an Ambex or Toper system at various price points
(really cheap, ok deal, actual value, new price) and functionality?
-- 
-Kevin
Admit your errors before someone else exaggerates them. - Andrew V. Mason

2) From: miKe mcKoffee
I suspect there's approximately ONE person on this List really qualified to
answer your question, that would be Tom. That said my research leads me to
believe wouldn't touch a Toper at any price, used Ambex maybe if no more
than 60% new price. Diedrich's notoriously hold their resale value very well
and about any thing less than 80% new a decent deal. That said I went with a
new US Roaster Corp. over Diedrich for various reasons. (And 3 months 2
weeks later still waiting on the D*&#^$* thing to be finish being built,
newest completion date tomorrow pending them receiving electronic valve
regulator from mfg which finally has a tracking number...of course USRC has
payment in full so their excuses for not receiving a needed part in a timely
manner which they had MY $$$ to order long ago ticks me off.)
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of kevin creason
	Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:48 PM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: +small shop roaster
	
	Hmmm... my head is spinning-- help me.
	
	I need input from more equipped minds:
	If a great condition Diedrich IR3 and afterburner actually does come
up for sale and is offered to me, what is a good price for that setup? 
	How does it compare to an Ambex or Toper system at various price
points (really cheap, ok deal, actual value, new price) and functionality? 
	
	-- 
	-Kevin
	Admit your errors before someone else exaggerates them. - Andrew V.
Mason

3) From: Les
I was wondering if you had your new roaster yet, Mike.  I guess I have my
answer.
Les
On 1/4/08, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
<Snip>

4) From: kevin creason
So I'm guessing it won't be in a range that I can afford. I will stick to my
plans for a BBQ roaster to keep up with my demands (friends and family).
<Snip>
-- 
-Kevin
Admit your errors before someone else exaggerates them. - Andrew V. Mason

5) From: miKe mcKoffee
Yeah, may have noticed from my post tone not a happy camper. But doo-doo
occurs so not going to waste energy dwelling on stuff beyond my control. And
having similar issues with sign company now three weeks late from promised
ETA! (Joys of business ownership:-)
Sure will be nice when we get it and get it installed though! Typed while
just starting this morning's 11% over max rated capacity 5% voltage boosted
CCR HotTop profiled 333g batch #5 for 3# net Hala'i Kope Blend needed for
the Kafe (Unleaded ~ Hawaiian for 'calm coffee':-) which would have could
have someday will be ONE not even half capacity batch...
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Les
	Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:59 AM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: Re: +small shop roaster
	
	I was wondering if you had your new roaster yet, Mike.  I guess I
have my answer.
	 
	Les
	
	On 1/4/08, miKe mcKoffee  wrote: 
		I suspect there's approximately ONE person on this List
really qualified to
		answer your question, that would be Tom. That said my
research leads me to 
		believe wouldn't touch a Toper at any price, used Ambex
maybe if no more
		than 60% new price. Diedrich's notoriously hold their resale
value very well
		and about any thing less than 80% new a decent deal. That
said I went with a 
		new US Roaster Corp. over Diedrich for various reasons. (And
3 months 2
		weeks later still waiting on the D*&#^$* thing to be finish
being built,
		newest completion date tomorrow pending them receiving
electronic valve 
		regulator from mfg which finally has a tracking number...of
course USRC has
		payment in full so their excuses for not receiving a needed
part in a timely
		manner which they had MY $$$ to order long ago ticks me
off.) 
		
		Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
	http://www.mcKonaKoffee.com		
		URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
	http://www.mckoffee.com/
		Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path.
To know I must
		first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each
Personal enlightenment
		found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who
have gone before. 
		
		Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archives
	http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/		
		       From: homeroast-admin
		[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of
kevin creason
		       Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:48 PM 
		       To: homeroast
		       Subject: +small shop roaster
		
		       Hmmm... my head is spinning-- help me.
		
		       I need input from more equipped minds: 
		       If a great condition Diedrich IR3 and afterburner
actually does come
		up for sale and is offered to me, what is a good price for
that setup?
		       How does it compare to an Ambex or Toper system at
various price 
		points (really cheap, ok deal, actual value, new price) and
functionality?
		
		       --
		       -Kevin
		       Admit your errors before someone else exaggerates
them. - Andrew V.
		Mason

6) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Ref; waiting on electronic parts...
Being in the refrigeration/air-conditioning manufacturing arena I can
fully sympathize with your plight. Many times we have had to order parts
that are not the quality or price of the original requested part. If the
customer demands his original part we sometimes have several months wait
before we can complete the unit assembly and testing. We'll cross our
fingers for ya...
TerryT

7) From: miKe mcKoffee
Have no idea what you "can afford". Finding any decent used 3k range roaster
for under $5k rare.
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of kevin creason
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:12 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +small shop roaster
	So I'm guessing it won't be in a range that I can afford. I will
stick to my plans for a BBQ roaster to keep up with my demands (friends and
family).
	
				On 1/4/08, miKe mcKoffee
 wrote: 
			I suspect there's approximately ONE person on this
List really qualified to
			answer your question, that would be Tom. That said
my research leads me to 
			believe wouldn't touch a Toper at any price, used
Ambex maybe if no more
			than 60% new price. Diedrich's notoriously hold
their resale value very well
			and about any thing less than 80% new a decent deal.
That said I went with a 
			new US Roaster Corp. over Diedrich for various
reasons. (And 3 months 2
			weeks later still waiting on the D*&#^$* thing to be
finish being built,
			newest completion date tomorrow pending them
receiving electronic valve 
			regulator from mfg which finally has a tracking
number...of course USRC has
			payment in full so their excuses for not receiving a
needed part in a timely
			manner which they had MY $$$ to order long ago ticks
me off.) 
			
			Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
		http://www.mcKonaKoffee.com			
			URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
		http://www.mckoffee.com/
			Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a
solitary path. To know I must
			first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each
Personal enlightenment
			found exploring the many divergent foot steps of
Those who have gone before. 
			
			Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archives
		http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/			
			       From: homeroast-admin
			[mailto:homeroast-admin] On
Behalf Of kevin creason
			       Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:48 PM 
			       To: homeroast
			       Subject: +small shop roaster
			
			       Hmmm... my head is spinning-- help me.
			
			       I need input from more equipped minds: 
			       If a great condition Diedrich IR3 and
afterburner actually does come
			up for sale and is offered to me, what is a good
price for that setup?
			       How does it compare to an Ambex or Toper
system at various price 
			points (really cheap, ok deal, actual value, new
price) and functionality?
			
			       --
			       -Kevin
			       Admit your errors before someone else
exaggerates them. - Andrew V.
			Mason

8) From: ray
When your spending your hard earned money on goods or services I try to get
a finish date out of them on the contract and if they don't meet the finish
date they start to  pay me back X number of dollars for every day there late
on the contract!  I think it's a fair way to get someone to complete the
task they agreed to and twist there arm into living up to there end of the
contract!  If they don't want to do that ask them why and put your wallet
back in your pants, they don't want the job bad enough to "get er done" and
on time.............

9) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Our business has a twist to it as far deadlines. We manufacture mostly
'custom' units, primarily with customers specified parts. Some of our
customers are understanding and oblige us in changing their parts
specification to match build/delivery dates. Others are absolutely firm
in their parts specification and when they are unyielding on their
requests we have absolutely no control on the time issue then. We do
manufacture some 'standard' items that we do have a standard specified
time of delivery from order date. These are also ordered as 'Premium'
orders that can, for a price, be assembled and delivered in a rush
situation. After Katrina we had several of these orders placed AND
delivered in a short time.
TerryT


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