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Topic: Illy Espresso...worth the money? (10 msgs / 287 lines)
1) From: Michael Schwer
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Has anyone tried Illy Espresso? I read about it and it is known as the =
some of the best espresso in the world. Is is really worth the $28.00 or =
so a pound? I did see it for less on Ebay.

2) From: Frank Parth
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Well, Mike, without shouting, I don't think it's worth it by a long shot. Remember that coffee starts to deteriorate 
after it's roasted. None of the commercial brands can keep their coffee fresh enough to transport it after roasting and 
keep it as good as what you can do at home.
Try roasting your own. I think you'll like it much better.
YMMV
Frank Parth

3) From: Scott Petersen
On Thu, January 3, 2008 12:18, Michael Schwer wrote:
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Short version: no
Long version: no, no, no, no!
The pre-ground Illy may have a consistent grind but, as with any
pre-ground coffee, it is stale before it reaches the distributor, let
alone the store or your kitchen. The whole bean may take longer to stale
but I have never noticed any sort of "Roasted Date" anywhere on their
packaging (please correct me if I am wrong) so you can't tell how old it
is. I have tried both and they were both absolute dreck in comparison to
home roasted, freshly ground coffee. I am not even comparing to the
"wonder coffees" such as Idido Misty Valley or Panama Gesha, I am
comparing to all the coffees that Sweetmarias sells and I roast and enjoy.
Cheers
Scott Petersen

4) From: Edward Rasmussen
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Try this question on Coffee Geek or Home Barista.  Not an appropriate
question for a coffee roasting list hosted by a company that sells
greens.
 
Ed
From: Michael Schwer [mailto:mikeschwer] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:19 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: +Illy Espresso...worth the money?
 
Has anyone tried Illy Espresso? I read about it and it is known as the
some of the best espresso in the world. Is is really worth the $28.00 or
so a pound? I did see it for less on Ebay.

5) From: bb
That's a vague usage of commercial right?
I mean, you could order stumptown, intelli, zoka, etc and get it plenty fast
to have it fresh.  Especially with intelli, I've never gotten anything in
the mail from them more than 3 days post roast.
On 1/3/08, Frank Parth  wrote:
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6) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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We carried Illy for a long time, mainly as a benchmark for good 
espresso grind than for the quality of the coffee. Illy does buy 
fairly good quality coffee for such a large company. They have 
integrity, and knowledge (i.e. we sell the Illy espresso book, one of 
the best books on coffee, period!) We used to even ship a free can of 
Illy with espresso machines, but once again this was mostly to iron 
out issues with grind, so a customer could compare results from their 
grinder with preground Illy. Anyway, it started making less and less 
sense, since I personally wouldn't ever opt for an Illy espresso over 
fresh home roast. So we dropped it ... Illy is, undoubtedly a good 
company, and beats the pants off crappy Italian coffees like Lavazza 
and such. But under the packaging, its' jsut not that fresh. My .02 
cents...
Tom
--
                   "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters"
            Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting  -  Tom & Maria
                      http://www.sweetmarias.com                Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com
     Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA
             phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com

7) From: Ed Needham
The Illy blend is tasty.  It would be great to get it fresh.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

8) From: Bryan Wray
Only thing that Illy sells that's worth the money are cups, and that's even really really debatable.  I happen to be one of those who collects the cups, but I get a lot of funny looks when I tell people how much I payed for them.
The coffee is absolutely terrible... think SM's goo goo muck, but twice as bad.  (Obviously I had a really bad experience with Illy; it could have been the barista that served it combined with the staleness factor... but all I know is I never want to touch it again).
HTH
-Bry
 
Bryan Wray
NaDean's Coffee Place/
Dino's Coffee Lounge
Kalamazoo, MI
"It is my hope that people realize that coffee is more than just a caffeine delivery service, it can be a culinary art"- Chris Owens.
       
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9) From: raymanowen
Ring the fire bell! An unexpected emporium sparkles-
A small surrounding detail first:
My son Dan had just had a hernia repaired- like dad, like grandfather- and
was deciding it might be good to go ahead and get the prescription filled
for the dum dums.
In deference to the nearby grocery chain's pharmacy, I won't impugn their
name. It's the norm that there will be a cavalcade of problems and false
starts when I attempt to use an alleged service. Nothing new.
Suffice it to say that I visited the in-store *$presso outlet, and just
asked for a double. You know why I was bracing myself, so I didn't cloud the
issue with comments or watch too closely. I just asked for "a double."
I was expecting the paper cup, but was *dumbfounded* by the crema and
flavor. It could have been an Ethiopian based blend. For coffee from *That
Chain*, I was blown away.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On Jan 5, 2008 12:11 PM, Bryan Wray  wrote:
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"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

10) From: Sandra Andina
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Our neighborhood  supermarket *$ kiosk held on to its La Marzoccos and  
Mazzer grinders long after most outlets had switched to the  
superautos. It had a Slovenian immigrant barista who bristled at  
requests for breves, soymilk or even decaf or skim (and appeared truly  
disgusted whenever preparing anything on the foo-foo flavored menu)--I  
had to plead with her when I started on Atkins in early '04 and could  
have no more lactose than was in heavy cream, and the only way she'd  
relent was when the store manager came to her aid with a quart of  
heavy cream. The coffee was pretty good too....but it turns out she  
was mixing in some Metropolis or Intelligentsia from home without  
telling anyone.  I think she either got canned or (more likely) quit  
when the superautos finally came. Anyway, a year and a half into my  
diet I got a Silvia and never bought anything from that *$ again (the  
supermarket is around the corner from me). Bob buys their plain coffee  
on the way out to work, but only when I sleep in and haven't set the  
Technivorm up for him, or when I'm out of homeroast.
On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:41 PM, raymanowen wrote:
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Sandy Andina
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Our neighborhood =
 supermarket *$ kiosk held on to its La Marzoccos and Mazzer =
grinders long after most outlets had switched to the superautos. It had =
a Slovenian immigrant barista who bristled at requests for breves, =
soymilk or even decaf or skim (and appeared truly disgusted whenever =
preparing anything on the foo-foo flavored menu)--I had to plead with =
her when I started on Atkins in early '04 and could have no more lactose =
than was in heavy cream, and the only way she'd relent was when the =
store manager came to her aid with a quart of heavy cream. The coffee =
was pretty good too....but it turns out she was mixing in some =
Metropolis or Intelligentsia from home without telling anyone.  I =
think she either got canned or (more likely) quit when the superautos =
finally came. Anyway, a year and a half into my diet I got a Silvia and =
never bought anything from that *$ again (the supermarket is around the =
corner from me). Bob buys their plain coffee on the way out to work, but =
only when I sleep in and haven't set the Technivorm up for him, or when =
I'm out of homeroast.On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:41 PM, raymanowen =
wrote:
Ring the fire bell! An unexpected emporium = sparkles- A small surrounding detail first: My son Dan had = just had a hernia repaired- like dad, like grandfather- and was deciding = it might be good to go ahead and get the prescription filled for the dum = dums. In deference to the nearby grocery chain's pharmacy, I = won't impugn their name. It's the norm that there will be a cavalcade of = problems and false starts when I attempt to use an alleged service. = Nothing new. Suffice it to say that I visited the in-store = *$presso outlet, and just asked for a double. You know why I was bracing = myself, so I didn't cloud the issue with comments or watch too closely. = I just asked for "a double." I was expecting the paper cup, but = was dumbfounded by the crema and flavor. It could have been an = Ethiopian based blend. For coffee from That Chain, I was blown = away. Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa! On Jan 5, 2008 12:11 PM, Bryan Wray <bwray_thatcoffeeguy= m> wrote: Only thing that Illy sells that's worth the = money are cups, and that's even really really debatable.  I happen = to be one of those who collects the cups, but I get a lot of funny looks = when I tell people how much I payed for them. The coffee is = absolutely terrible... think SM's goo goo muck, but twice as bad.  = (Obviously I had a really bad experience with Illy; it could have been = the barista that served it combined with the staleness factor... but all = I know is I never want to touch it again). HTH -Bry = Bryan Wray NaDean's Coffee Place/ Dino's Coffee = Lounge Kalamazoo, MI "It is my hope that people realize that = coffee is more than just a caffeine delivery service, it can be a = culinary art"- Chris Owens.
= Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with = Yahoo! Mobile. Try it = now.
-- "When = the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty = Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976 Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina = --Apple-Mail-69-72564431--


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