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Topic: politics and coffee and yemen observation (8 msgs / 136 lines)
1) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Okay - I opened a can of worms here. I was actually a off base, too. 
Brett's post had a lot to do with coffee, and I was definitely 
jumping the gun. Sorry about that. You all understand the intention: 
let's keep to things coffee related. And Lynne, I totally agree, let 
kindness be the rule of the day!
Politics does have a lot to do with coffee. I was shocked to find out 
in Yemen that, since they are basically a safe country and solidly 
pro-trade, and an ally with the US, they get very little aid! In 
coffee, there is no money. USAID has pulled out; they promised to 
help with seed money for the much needed Yemen Coffee Improvement 
Association, and ended up giving zilch. Another agricultural aid NGO 
is closing up shop in 6 months in Yemen. While I might be naive and 
this is overly simplistic, it almost baits nations to be "bad" in 
order to have a bargaining chip to get foreign support. (Remember, 
the Cole bombing was not done by Yemenis, something I found on my 
trip that people were eager to point out.) Anyway, the money just 
isn't there for allies, at least not in Yemen, and it seemed a little 
backward to me. The rural areas we visited desperately need help, 
road improvement, wells, water conservation, agricultural advising. 
All these would directly help the quality of Yemeni coffee.
Tom
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2) From: Lynne
Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee  wrote:
Politics does have a lot to do with coffee. I was shocked to find out
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That's so sad - and frustrating.
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While I might be naive and this is overly simplistic, it almost baits
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to be "bad" in order to have a bargaining chip to get foreign support.
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I'm wondering if there are any actions we, over here in the States, can do
to help?
Even letter-writing to any reps who (hopefully) might listen?
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Just wondering - hate feeling helpless...
Lynne

3) From: Aaron
Lynne, I hate to say it but politicians are the same world round.  ALL 
crooked and corrupt...
Even IF you got one of them over here to listen, they really would not 
give a s$%^t about a thing over there, THOSE people don't vote for them, 
hence are non important in their agenda's.   Even IF you managed to get 
some kind of program going to help them, it'd end up just another 
corruption ridden UN type scandal.
I hate to say this but about the only way one as us could really help 
would be either A:) get someone who genuinely cares, like Tom for 
example, and NO this is NOT a push to try to get tom involved in this 
any more than he would like, but I use him as an example of a person who 
is actually honest, sincere and trustworthy... (ie NOT a politician).. 
to go over there with donations or supplies or whatever or B) go 
ourselves and lend aid, assistance, whatever.....
It is a shame, but unfortunately, the more 'government' one gets 
involved in any project, the worse off it ultimately ends up.
Nuff on pollyticks.....
Aaron

4) From: stereoplegic
hear hear!
Aaron wrote:
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5) From: Floyd Lozano
Blanket generalizations are always wrong.
;)
-F
On Jan 7, 2008 4:42 PM, Aaron  wrote:
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6) From: Aaron
Then show me an honest politician floyd..
aaron

7) From: Michael Loew
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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FWIW, I think both of our Wisconsin senators (Feingold & Kohl) are =
honest.
Now about that coffee situation in Africa............................

8) From: Floyd Lozano
I was being cute, see, making a blanket generalization saying all
blanket generalizations are wrong!
At any rate, I'm of the mind 'innocent until proven otherwise',
ideologically.  In practice, I don't trust anyone!
-F
On Jan 8, 2008 4:53 PM, Aaron  wrote:
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