Okay - I opened a can of worms here. I was actually a off base, too. Brett's post had a lot to do with coffee, and I was definitely jumping the gun. Sorry about that. You all understand the intention: let's keep to things coffee related. And Lynne, I totally agree, let kindness be the rule of the day! Politics does have a lot to do with coffee. I was shocked to find out in Yemen that, since they are basically a safe country and solidly pro-trade, and an ally with the US, they get very little aid! In coffee, there is no money. USAID has pulled out; they promised to help with seed money for the much needed Yemen Coffee Improvement Association, and ended up giving zilch. Another agricultural aid NGO is closing up shop in 6 months in Yemen. While I might be naive and this is overly simplistic, it almost baits nations to be "bad" in order to have a bargaining chip to get foreign support. (Remember, the Cole bombing was not done by Yemenis, something I found on my trip that people were eager to point out.) Anyway, the money just isn't there for allies, at least not in Yemen, and it seemed a little backward to me. The rural areas we visited desperately need help, road improvement, wells, water conservation, agricultural advising. All these would directly help the quality of Yemeni coffee. Tom -- "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters" Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting - Tom & Maria http://www.sweetmarias.com Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com
Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee wrote: Politics does have a lot to do with coffee. I was shocked to find out <Snip> That's so sad - and frustrating. <Snip> While I might be naive and this is overly simplistic, it almost baits <Snip> to be "bad" in order to have a bargaining chip to get foreign support. <Snip> I'm wondering if there are any actions we, over here in the States, can do to help? Even letter-writing to any reps who (hopefully) might listen? <Snip> Just wondering - hate feeling helpless... Lynne
Lynne, I hate to say it but politicians are the same world round. ALL crooked and corrupt... Even IF you got one of them over here to listen, they really would not give a s$%^t about a thing over there, THOSE people don't vote for them, hence are non important in their agenda's. Even IF you managed to get some kind of program going to help them, it'd end up just another corruption ridden UN type scandal. I hate to say this but about the only way one as us could really help would be either A:) get someone who genuinely cares, like Tom for example, and NO this is NOT a push to try to get tom involved in this any more than he would like, but I use him as an example of a person who is actually honest, sincere and trustworthy... (ie NOT a politician).. to go over there with donations or supplies or whatever or B) go ourselves and lend aid, assistance, whatever..... It is a shame, but unfortunately, the more 'government' one gets involved in any project, the worse off it ultimately ends up. Nuff on pollyticks..... Aaron
hear hear! Aaron wrote: <Snip>
Blanket generalizations are always wrong. ;) -F On Jan 7, 2008 4:42 PM, Aaron wrote: <Snip>
Then show me an honest politician floyd.. aaron
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. <Snip> FWIW, I think both of our Wisconsin senators (Feingold & Kohl) are = honest. Now about that coffee situation in Africa............................
I was being cute, see, making a blanket generalization saying all blanket generalizations are wrong! At any rate, I'm of the mind 'innocent until proven otherwise', ideologically. In practice, I don't trust anyone! -F On Jan 8, 2008 4:53 PM, Aaron wrote: <Snip>