I've seen notes here on using minute rice to clean grinders.... What's wrong with regular rice? Before reading that, and after a bit of web searching which mentioned only "rice", I ran some long grain white basmati through my RR45. It's a softer rice than the sushi rice I had lying around, and I ran it through without stalling. It did a fine job cleaning the grinder, but did I run the risk of damaging (dulling) my burrs? No big deal, as I plan on replacing them soon, but I'd like to know for the next time. I wonder how brown rice would fare... The bran might be slightly abrasive, and they have a bit of oil content which might help lubricate. - allon
Hey Allon, You were safer in the political threads. People 'round here are pretty well entrenched in their position on rice and cleaning burrs. I use regular rice, and it works just fine. There are a couple (hundred) who feel only minute rice will do... So my vote is RICE, as opposed to pork chops or steel wool... Brett On Jan 7, 2008 11:28 PM, Allon Stern wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
rice, dried beans, pearl barley all work Brett Mason wrote: <Snip>
And for the contrarians, cooked rice.... Brett Mason wrote: <Snip>
On Jan 8, 2008 8:58 AM, Rich wrote: <Snip> Contrarians? Here? Couldn't possibly be....
Brett, you beat me to the punch! Just what I was thinking. : > }) Lynne Brett Mason wrote: <Snip>
<Snip> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. <Snip> Like you I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what was the best cleaner and why for the grinder. Lets face it, its a big investment and we don't want to cause problems. I finally choose to go with " Grindz Coffee Mill Cleaner" as seen herehttp://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.coffeecleaner.shtmlRoll way down on the page. It cost way more then rice!! But my grinder cost way more then I have at the moment to replace it. After reading of the rare but costly problems caused by rice I just couldn't chance the problems. This quote from SM site was the bottom line for me! " Why can't I just use rice to clean my grinder? In the past, many people have cleaned grinders with rice. However, rice carries the risk of locking up the motor of a grinder as it passes through and is turned into a fine powder. The hardness and shape of Grindz Grinder Cleaner prevents this from happening. Using rice to clean your grinder also leaves a starchy residue on the inner mechanics of a grinder that is difficult to remove." Read on both HB and CG as you make your decision. Plus SM has this fact sheethttp://www.sweetmarias.com/urnex.grindzFAQ.htmlAlso as you look at the cost remember that even on my grinder it last for 6 times. treshell
--Apple-Mail-5-325904165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset -ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Treshell wrote: <Snip> FWIW, the quote is from the SM site, but it is directly from the manufacturer's provided faq, placed on the SM site for convenience. I would take that information with a grain of rice^H^H^H^Hsalt. - allon --Apple-Mail-5-325904165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset O-8859-1 On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Treshell wrote:
I clean mine every morning with coffee beans. This morning it was Kona Purple Mtn. ;-p On 1/8/08, Treshell wrote: <Snip> -- Larry J
I just finished reading the Grindz Grinder Cleaner FAQ, provided by Grindz on the SM site and the number of contradictory statements in such a short document is impressive. Reads like a candidates position paper.... My BS flag is here somewhere.... (looking around for flag to wave) Allon Stern wrote: <Snip>
Before Grindz and after Grindz use pictures here:http://home.surewest.net/frcn/Coffee/grindz.htmlSummation: "For shop use, this stuff would be amazing. When you are paying employees it costs time (and thus money) to disassemble a grinder, and then add the cost of the broken parts they would add to the job as well as the down time while the grinder is out of service. So, in my opinion, for commercial work, Grindz is a great investment. For home use, although totally effective, you will have to decide if the cost is worth it to you. If used every three months or so, it is an effective way to keep your grinder clean, and not everyone is comfortable in disassembling their machines. Bottom line- it works great, and exactly as advertised"
On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Rich Adams wrote: <Snip> MUST RESIST URGE TO FOLLOW UP *phew*. - allon
Allon, one comment on the oils in the brown rice. Oils go bad, go rancid. you do NOT want that in your coffee now do you? Any lubricating qualities would quickly get gummed up with the grounds chomping around in it... Aaron
I use coffee to brew, and rice to clean. I am raising a toast of Java Jerrry's Christmas Blend (the last few drops I had) to help me cope with the knee high marketeering in the grindzFAQ.... Reading Grindz is like calling Microsoft to ask if I owe money for software licenses..... Brett On 1/8/08, Allon Stern wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
Someone mentioned they read the thread on H-B about Grindz. I was one of the early testers of Grindz and posted my comparison of par-cooked Minute Rice & Grindz. IMO they clean equally well both doing an excellent job of routine regular (weekly to monthly at most) cleaning inbetween tear apart cleanings. However, my observations are that Grindz actually creates and leaves more dust than Minute Rice. I am still using Grindz both at home and the Kafe. Why? Simple. I'd gotten a number of free bottles of the stuff! I will however revert to using much less expensive Minute Rice when the last almost gone is gone. The theory of Minute Rice versus regular non par-cooked rice types is two fold. First it is softer and absorbs oils more readily. Second it is softer and kinder to the sharp cutting edges of burrs. I have not and do not intend to do a Minute versus regular rice comparison. The cost difference is negligible as far as I'm concerned. Running a couple double shots worth of Minute Rice through weekly takes quite a while to go through a box! FWIW been using Minute Rice with Rocky for 5 or 6 years. Never stalled the motor or gummed up anything thank-you very much GrindzFAQ:-) Which isn't to say Minute Rice wouldn't stall a cheapo department store quality burr grinder. Don't rightly know. But then, who would spend more on the Grindz to clean said cheapo burr than the cheapo burr grinder cost in the first place! Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/ <Snip>