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Topic: Rice? (15 msgs / 306 lines)
1) From: Allon Stern
I've seen notes here on using minute rice to clean grinders....
What's wrong with regular rice? Before reading that, and after a bit  
of web searching which mentioned only "rice", I ran some long grain  
white basmati through my RR45. It's a softer rice than the sushi rice  
I had lying around, and I ran it through without stalling. It did a  
fine job cleaning the grinder, but did I run the risk of damaging  
(dulling) my burrs?
No big deal, as I plan on replacing them soon, but I'd like to know  
for the next time.
I wonder how brown rice would fare... The bran might be slightly  
abrasive, and they have a bit of oil content which might help lubricate.
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allon

2) From: Brett Mason
Hey Allon,
You were safer in the political threads.  People 'round here are
pretty well entrenched in their position on rice and cleaning burrs.
I use regular rice, and it works just fine.  There are a couple
(hundred) who feel only minute rice will do...  So my vote is RICE, as
opposed to pork chops or steel wool...
Brett
On Jan 7, 2008 11:28 PM, Allon Stern  wrote:
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3) From: John Brown
rice, dried beans,  pearl barley all work
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4) From: Rich
And for the contrarians, cooked rice....
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5) From: Bill Morgan
On Jan 8, 2008 8:58 AM, Rich  wrote:
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Contrarians?  Here?  Couldn't possibly be....

6) From: Lynne
Brett, you beat me to the punch! Just what I was thinking.
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Lynne
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7) From: Treshell
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Like you I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what was the best
cleaner and why for the grinder.  Lets face it, its a big investment and we
don't want to cause problems.
I finally choose to go with " Grindz Coffee Mill Cleaner" as seen herehttp://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.coffeecleaner.shtmlRoll way down on the page.  It cost way more then rice!!  But my grinder
cost way more then I have at the moment to replace  it.  After reading of
the rare but costly problems caused by rice I just couldn't chance the
problems. 
This quote from SM site was the bottom line for me!
" Why can't I just use rice to clean my grinder?
In the past, many people have cleaned grinders with rice.  However, rice
carries the risk of locking up the motor of a grinder as it passes through
and is turned into a fine powder.  The hardness and shape of Grindz Grinder
Cleaner prevents this from happening.  Using rice to clean your grinder also
leaves a starchy residue on the inner mechanics of a grinder that is
difficult to remove."
Read on both HB and CG as you make your decision.  Plus SM has this fact
sheethttp://www.sweetmarias.com/urnex.grindzFAQ.htmlAlso as you look at the cost remember that even on my grinder it last for 6
times.
treshell

8) From: Allon Stern
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On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Treshell wrote:
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FWIW, the quote is from the SM site, but it is directly from the  
manufacturer's provided faq, placed on the SM site for convenience. I  
would take that information with a grain of rice^H^H^H^Hsalt.
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allon
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On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Treshell wrote:
This quote from SM = site was the bottom line for me! " Why can't I just use = rice to clean my grinder? In the past, many people have cleaned = grinders with rice.  However, rice carries the risk of locking up the = motor of a grinder as it passes through and is turned into a fine = powder.  The hardness and shape of Grindz Grinder Cleaner prevents = this from happening.  Using rice to clean your grinder also leaves a = starchy residue on the inner mechanics of a grinder that is difficult to = remove." Read on both HB and CG as you make your decision. =  Plus SM has this fact sheet http://www.sweetm=arias.com/urnex.grindzFAQ.html
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9) From: Larry Johnson
I clean mine every morning with coffee beans. This morning it was Kona
Purple Mtn. ;-p
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10) From: Rich
I just finished reading the Grindz Grinder Cleaner FAQ, provided by 
Grindz on the SM site and the number of contradictory statements in such 
a short document is impressive.  Reads like a candidates position paper....
My BS flag is here somewhere.... (looking around for flag to wave)
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11) From: Rich Adams
Before Grindz and after Grindz use pictures here:http://home.surewest.net/frcn/Coffee/grindz.htmlSummation:
"For shop use, this stuff would be amazing. When you are paying employees it 
costs time (and thus money) to disassemble a grinder, and then add the cost 
of the broken parts they would add to the job as well as the down time while 
the grinder is out of service. So, in my opinion, for commercial work, 
Grindz is a great investment. For home use, although totally effective, you 
will have to decide if the cost is worth it to you. If used every three 
months or so, it is an effective way to keep your grinder clean, and not 
everyone is comfortable in disassembling their machines.
Bottom line- it works great, and exactly as advertised"

12) From: Allon Stern
On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Rich Adams wrote:
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MUST
RESIST
URGE
TO
FOLLOW
UP
*phew*.
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allon

13) From: Aaron
Allon, one comment on the oils in the brown rice.
Oils go bad, go rancid.   you do NOT want that in your coffee now do 
you?    Any lubricating qualities would quickly get gummed up with the 
grounds chomping around in it...
Aaron

14) From: Brett Mason
I use coffee to brew, and rice to clean.
I am raising a toast of Java Jerrry's Christmas Blend (the last few
drops I had) to help me cope with the knee high marketeering in the
grindzFAQ....
Reading Grindz is like calling Microsoft to ask if I owe money for
software licenses.....
Brett
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15) From: miKe mcKoffee
Someone mentioned they read the thread on H-B about Grindz. I was one of the
early testers of Grindz and posted my comparison of par-cooked Minute Rice &
Grindz. IMO they clean equally well both doing an excellent job of routine
regular (weekly to monthly at most) cleaning inbetween tear apart cleanings.
However, my observations are that Grindz actually creates and leaves more
dust than Minute Rice. I am still using Grindz both at home and the Kafe.
Why? Simple. I'd gotten a number of free bottles of the stuff! I will
however revert to using much less expensive Minute Rice when the last almost
gone is gone.
The theory of Minute Rice versus regular non par-cooked rice types is two
fold. First it is softer and absorbs oils more readily. Second it is softer
and kinder to the sharp cutting edges of burrs. I have not and do not intend
to do a Minute versus regular rice comparison. The cost difference is
negligible as far as I'm concerned. Running a couple double shots worth of
Minute Rice through weekly takes quite a while to go through a box!
FWIW been using Minute Rice with Rocky for 5 or 6 years. Never stalled the
motor or gummed up anything thank-you very much GrindzFAQ:-) Which isn't to
say Minute Rice wouldn't stall a cheapo department store quality burr
grinder. Don't rightly know. But then, who would spend more on the Grindz to
clean said cheapo burr than the cheapo burr grinder cost in the first place!
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