HomeRoast Digest


Topic: Cup size for Espresso matter? (26 msgs / 891 lines)
1) From: jhwada
Hello,
I heard from a friend that a wider cup make difference for the =
drink quality ( the same coffee, in the same shot) can became bitter in the=
 begining. This happens due to the first contact in your tongue.
The s=
mall cup will make the coffee contact the front of your tongue ( sensitive =
part for sweet), and a wider cup will make the coffee contact the side of y=
our tongue (I don't believe, because is too hot to drink it at once).
=
Do anybody know or heard something about this, and could help with this dou=
bt?
Tkz
Jorge Wada
      Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o=
 único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento!http://br.mail.=yahoo.com/

2) From: Sandra Andina
--Apple-Mail-23-706513159
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charsetO-8859-1;
	format=flowed;
	delsp=yes
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know that some serious espresso aficionados prefer the taller  
"tulip" shape for that reason, but there are plenty of espresso bars  
on both sides of the pond that serve their shots in little half-round  =
(honey-I-shrunk-the-teacup) cups of the same volume. I never really  
noticed a difference, though I normally use Bodum Pavinas, which  
resemble eggs with one end lopped off, filled less than halfway.   
FWIW, I think both Intelligentsia and Metropolis pull their in-shop  
ristretti into tulip-shaped cups.  The wider-mouth ones are better for  =
macchiati or con panna (more room for the mini-pour or dollop,  
respectively).
Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
On Jan 12, 2008, at 11:41 PM, jhwada wrote:
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
--Apple-Mail-23-706513159
Content-Type: text/html;
	charsetO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know that some serious =
espresso aficionados prefer the taller "tulip" shape for that reason, =
but there are plenty of espresso bars on both sides of the pond that =
serve their shots in little half-round (honey-I-shrunk-the-teacup) cups =
of the same volume. I never really noticed a difference, though I =
normally use Bodum Pavinas, which resemble eggs with one end lopped off, =
filled less than halfway.  FWIW, I think both Intelligentsia and =
Metropolis pull their in-shop ristretti into tulip-shaped cups. =
 The wider-mouth ones are better for macchiati or con panna (more =
room for the mini-pour or dollop, respectively). Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina 
On Jan 12, =
2008, at 11:41 PM, jhwada =
wrote:
Hello,I heard from a friend that a = wider cup make difference for the drink quality ( the same coffee, in = the same shot) can became bitter in the begining. This happens due to = the first contact in your tongue.The small cup will make the = coffee contact the front of your tongue ( sensitive part for = sweet), and a wider cup will make the coffee contact the side of = your tongue (I don't believe, because is too hot to drink it at = once). Do anybody know or heard something about this, and = could help with this doubt?TkzJorge = Wada  Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o nico sem limite de espao para = armazenamento! = --Apple-Mail-23-706513159--

3) From: Andy Thomas
A narrower cup concentrates the crema, makes it thicker, in a cup of espres=
so. In a wider cup the crema is more spread out so it is thinner on the top=
 of the drink. Wider cups are used for cappuchino, especially when used for=
 latte art, because it allows more surface area for the rossette. I have ne=
ver heard the idea about different parts of the tongue, but that is the rat=
ionale for different shaped wine glasses for different types of wine, so ma=
ybe there is something to it. This calls for more research! Please stand by=
.:-)
----- Original Message ----
From: "jhwada" 
To: SW Mailinglist 
Sen=
t: Saturday, January 12, 2008 9:41:46 PM
Subject: +Cup size for Espresso =
matter?
Hello,
 
I heard from a friend that a wider cup m=
ake difference for the drink quality ( the same coffee, in the same shot) c=
an became bitter in the begining. This happens due to the first contact in =
your tongue.
 
The small cup will make the coffee contact the fro=
nt of your tongue ( sensitive part for sweet), and a wider cup will make th=
e coffee contact the side of your tongue (I don't believe, because is too h=
ot to drink it at once).
 
Do anybody know or heard something abo=
ut this, and could help with this doubt?
 
Tkz
 
Jorge =
Wada 
      Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o nico sem l=
imite de espao para armazenamento!==
Be a better friend, newshound, and 
know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  T=
ry it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ=

4) From: gin
Jorge:
Personal taste, personal taste is always the way to go. Why not try an experiment and use different size cups and see which you prefer. Use the same coffee for each shot.
I use a cappuccino cup half of the time when I pull double shots.
let us know.
ginny

5) From: Aaron
So....what you are saying ginny is that size DOES matter?   Hmmm and us 
men been lied to all these years it seems!!
seriously though, it's all about personal preferences.  One may think 
the size of the cup wont make a difference but it can.  How it forms, 
how quickly it cools, how much aroma hits your nose when you take a sip 
(smell is a major part of taste) etc.
That's one of the nice things about our niche here.  while there ARE 
some areas where there is not a heck of a lot of room for playing 
around, ie like the type of grinder for example, in most other areas 
there is a lot of room for experimentation, and personal preferences to 
be fufilled.
you like a paper filter, I like a swiss gold.  which one is 'right' or 
the 'better' way of doing it.....  they both are, depending on our tastes.
Play around and see what you like best, and let us know.
Aaron

6) From: gin
yes and no...
g
---- Aaron  wrote: 
<Snip>

7) From: raymanowen
"Use the same coffee for each shot."
The devil, you say?
Once the first one is drunk, it's no longer available for the other- or is
there more to it? -???
On Jan 13, 2008 6:47 AM, gin  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

8) From: gin
such a funny guy...
that's why I love ya.
ginny
---- raymanowen wrote: 
<Snip>

9) From: Jeff Cozad
The comic strip Frazz has been talking espresso and cup size in the last
week.http://www.comics.com/comics/frazz/archive/frazz-20080107.htmlhttp://www.comics.com/comics/frazz/archive/frazz-20080108.html
-- 
Jeff C

10) From: gin
Jeff,
thanks, great stuff...
ginny
---- Jeff Cozad  wrote: 
<Snip>

11) From: raymanowen
There is this to say about espresso machines and cup size:
If you inadvertently push the button next to the icon of a large size cup
when you have a Bodum Assam in your hand, you will soon realize that
automation has not yet reached your stage. There is no sensor to stop the
pump when you howl.
Cheers, Mabuhay, tung h -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?
On Jan 14, 2008 6:33 AM, gin  wrote:
<Snip>
t
<Snip>

12) From: Sandra Andina
--Apple-Mail-38-852656163
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset-ASCII;
	format=flowed;
	delsp=yes
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Not necessarily--I could always override the dosimeter on my late  
Livia 90A to stop the pull by pushing the "shot" or "double shot"  
button a second time before the pour was done. (THAT function always  
worked). And I never held on to the Pavina while pulling a shot,  
though I sometimes learned to keep a hand on the PF handle to keep it  
from slipping off (having once sacrificed a small Pavina by not  
locking in tightly enough)--same conditions apply to the Assam as  
well, right?  Anything I ought to know about the necessity for holding  
on to the cup during the pull?
Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:32 PM, raymanowen wrote:
<Snip>
--Apple-Mail-38-852656163
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not necessarily--I could always =
override the dosimeter on my late Livia 90A to stop the pull by pushing =
the "shot" or "double shot" button a second time before the pour was =
done. (THAT function always worked). And I never held on to the Pavina =
while pulling a shot, though I sometimes learned to keep a hand on the =
PF handle to keep it from slipping off (having once sacrificed a small =
Pavina by not locking in tightly enough)--same conditions apply to the =
Assam as well, right?  Anything I ought to know about the necessity =
for holding on to the cup during the pull?
 Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina 
On Jan 14, =
2008, at 4:32 PM, raymanowen =
wrote:
There is this to say about espresso machines and cup = size: If you inadvertently push the button next to the icon of a = large size cup when you have a Bodum Assam in your hand, you will soon = realize that automation has not yet reached your stage. There is no = sensor to stop the pump when you howl. = = --Apple-Mail-38-852656163--

13) From: raymanowen
"...stop the pull by pushing the "shot" or "double shot" button..."
"shot... Double shot," you say?
If I pulled a dumb-stunt like that, I'd be Livid with a Livia and you might
not hear the round vowel sound in Shot, exactly. Not very much.
Cheers, Mabuhay, tung h -RayO, aka Opa!
On Jan 14, 2008 3:44 PM, Sandra Andina  wrote:
<Snip>
nd
<Snip>
ons
<Snip>
-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Might=
y
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

14) From: homeroast
--Apple-Mail-46-874020709
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset-ASCII;
	format=flowed;
	delsp=yes
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I mean, the button I'd pushed when I started the pull.  A second push  
of the same button stopped it manually. (I reprogrammed the "shot"  
button to pull a ristretto and the "double shot" for a regular 2-oz.  
pour).
Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:13 PM, raymanowen wrote:
<Snip>
--Apple-Mail-46-874020709
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I mean, the button I'd pushed =
when I started the pull.  A second push of the same button stopped =
it manually. (I reprogrammed the "shot" button to pull a ristretto and =
the "double shot" for a regular 2-oz. pour).
 Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina 
On Jan 14, =
2008, at 7:13 PM, raymanowen =
wrote:
"...stop the pull by pushing the = "shot" or "double shot" button..." "shot... Double shot," you = say? If I pulled a dumb-stunt like that, I'd be Livid with a = Livia and you might not hear the round vowel sound in Shot, exactly. Not = very much. 

15) From: homeroast
On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:13 PM, raymanowen wrote:
<Snip>
Do you mean you'd be Livin' Livia Loca?
-
allon

16) From: homeroast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17) From: homeroast
I've seen the same, but can't remember where. I remember being
relieved, because I thought something was wrong with me that I
couldn't tell any difference from "zone to zone".
On 1/15/08, Mike Koenig  wrote:
<Snip>
ality
<Snip>
 This
<Snip>
 the
<Snip>
-- 
Larry J

18) From: homeroast
Perfect!

19) From: homeroast
------=_Part_24872_648366.1200438329194
Content-Type: text/plain; charsetO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
Perhaps you're thinking of this article:http://www.sweetmarias.com/taste.htmlOn Jan 15, 2008 12:48 PM, ray  wrote:
<Snip>
------=_Part_24872_648366.1200438329194
Content-Type: text/html; charsetO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
Perhaps you're thinking of this article:http://www.sweetmarias.com/taste.htmlpilgrim5> wrote:
Perf=
ect!
-----Original Message----=
-
From: homeroast-ad=
min
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf=
 Of Larry Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:19 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: =
Re: +Cup size for Espresso matter?
I've seen the same, but can&#=
39;t remember where. I remember being
relieved, because I thought something was wrong with me that I
could=
n't tell any difference from "zone to zone".
On 1/15/0=
8, Mike Koenig <koenig.mike=
il.com
> wrote:
> I'm not positive, but I could swear I read an a=
rticle that disproved
> the idea of the different "zones" o=
n your tongue being sensitive to
> different flavors.
>
> I think it said that all the types of taste buds were spread evenly
jhwada> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
>=
 >
> > I heard from a friend that a wider cup make difference f=
or the drink
quality
> > ( the same coffee, in the same shot) c=
an became bitter in the begining.
This
> > happens due to the first contact in your tongue.
&=
gt; >
> > The small cup will make the coffee contact the front =
of your tongue (
> > sensitive part for sweet), and a wider cup wi=
ll make the coffee contact
the
> > side of your tongue (I don't believe, because is t=
oo hot to drink it at
> > once).
> >
> > Do anyb=
ody know or heard something about this, and could help with this
> &g=
t; doubt?
> >
> > Tkz
> >
> > Jorge Wada
>=
 >
> >  
> > Abra=
 sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o nico sem limite de espao para
> &g=
t; armazenamento!
>
--
Larry J=
homeroast mailing list
http://lists.sweetmar=ias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast

To change your personal list settings (digest options, vacations,unsvbscribes) go to
http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.h=tml#personalsettings

homeroast ma=
iling list
http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/home=roast

To change your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, u=
nsvbscribes) go to http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#pe=rsonalsettings

------=_Part_24872_648366.1200438329194--

20) From: homeroast
That's it. Thanks for the reminder.
On Jan 15, 2008 6:05 PM, Bill  wrote:
<Snip>
on
<Snip>
k
<Snip>
 (
<Snip>
t
<Snip>
a
<Snip>
-- 
Larry J

21) From: homeroast
Ironically the "tongue map" can still be found in the SCAA approved 
cupping guides! Odd, since it has been discredited most places. It's 
true that there are physiological differences in how much and where 
on the palate different people sense things, but it can't be mapped 
out empirically.
As far as espresso cups, some people like the tulip shape but I have 
always preferred the round Sorrento shape (Moka Brown Sorrento from 
Nuova Pointe, the ones we carry) or the Illy rounded shape, (i.e. the 
monkey cups we had). For doubles I use 5 oz cups, ie the Nuova Point 
Amalfi, or our skunk cappuccino cup. From what I understand there is 
a trend toward 5 oz cups for "competition" settings. Not sure if 
someone can confirm that (?)
Tom
Perhaps you're thinking of this article:http://www.sweetmarias.com/taste.htmlOn Jan 15, 2008 12:48 PM, ray < 
pilgrim5> wrote:
Perfect!

22) From: homeroast
Yes there is a trend towards 5oz cap' cups in competitions. However,
competition caps are with single shots! (Both the judged straight shots and
caps are single shots at SCAA Sanctioned competitions as well as WBC,
usually pulled as split doubles.) Personally I prefer the ACF 6oz cap cups
for a double shot cappuccino, 3oz ACF demi for double shot macchiatos,
2.75oz ACF ristretto demi for straight double shots. In fact just ordered a
bunch of all three in Nero Black for the Kafe:-)
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
<Snip>

23) From: homeroast
--Apple-Mail-60-943354188
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset-ASCII;
	format=flowed;
	delsp=yes
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Do you find that the shot cools off faster and the crema spreads and  
dissipates more in the Sorrento than in the tulip shape?
Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
On Jan 15, 2008, at 5:23 PM, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee wrote:
<Snip>
--Apple-Mail-60-943354188
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Do you find that the shot cools =
off faster and the crema spreads and dissipates more in the Sorrento =
than in the tulip shape?
 Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina 
On Jan 15, =
2008, at 5:23 PM, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee wrote:
s far as = espresso cups, some people like the tulip shape but I have always = preferred the round Sorrento shape (Moka Brown Sorrento from Nuova = Pointe, the ones we carry) or the Illy rounded shape, (i.e. the monkey = cups we had). For doubles I use 5 oz cups, ie the Nuova Point Amalfi, or = our skunk cappuccino cup. From what I understand there is a trend = toward 5 oz cups for "competition" settings. Not sure if someone can = confirm that (?) = --Apple-Mail-60-943354188--

24) From: homeroast
------=_Part_12946_3406998.1200444422980
Content-Type: text/plain; charsetO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
"I could always override the dosimeter on my late Livia 90A... "
Must be some amazing espresso- Glows in the Dark?
That reminds me of Chernobyl- they had dosimeters and must have tried to
override some controls.  exothermic rules...
My Assam and maybe the small Pavina are too small for double shot drinks.
Maybe the 9 oz Pavina would be great for my brewed mocha latte, the salvage
for my early bomb shots. It started out with milk foamed over Baker's
unsweetened chocolate and sugar with a double shot pulled into it.
I forgot- my wife is a non recovering chocoholic, so there is salvage value
in any of my miserable shots- a Chocolatte? If the cocoa is good, the shot
can even be dreck. Then I'm just comparing with the well-known chain
Scheisse. A Helluva standard, but I was always better than chocolate milk
and dreck espresso.
Cheers, Mabuhay, tung h -RayO, aka Opa!
Cheers, Mabuhay, tung h -RayO, aka Opa!
On Jan 14, 2008 3:44 PM, Sandra Andina  wrote:
<Snip>
nd
<Snip>
ons
<Snip>
-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Might=
y
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
------=_Part_12946_3406998.1200444422980
Content-Type: text/html; charsetO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
"I could always override the dosimeter on my late Livia 90A... "<=
br>
Must be some amazing espresso- Glows in the Dark?
That remind=
s me of Chernobyl- they had dosimeters and must have tried to override some=
 controls.  exothermic rules...
My Assam and maybe the small Pavina are too small for double shot d=
rinks. Maybe the 9 oz Pavina would be great for my brewed mocha latte, the =
salvage for my early bomb shots. It started out with milk foamed over Baker=
's unsweetened chocolate and sugar with a double shot pulled into it.
I forgot- my wife is a non recovering chocoholic, so there is salva=
ge value in any of my miserable shots- a Chocolatte? If the cocoa is good, =
the shot can even be dreck. Then I'm just comparing with the well-known=
 chain Scheisse. A Helluva standard, but I was always better than chocolate=
 milk and dreck espresso.
Cheers, Mabuhay, tung h -RayO, aka Opa!
Cheers, Mabuhay, =
tung h -RayO, aka Opa!
On Jan 14, 2008=
 3:44 PM, Sandra Andina <sandraa=
ndina
> wrote:
Not necessarily--I could always override the dosimeter on=
 my late Livia 90A to stop the pull by pushing the "shot" or &quo=
t;double shot" button a second time before the pour was done. (THAT fu=
nction always worked). And I never held on to the Pavina while pulling a sh=
ot, though I sometimes learned to keep a hand on the PF handle to keep it f=
rom slipping off (having once sacrificed a small Pavina by not locking in t=
ightly enough)--same conditions apply to the Assam as well, right?  An=
ything I ought to know about the necessity for holding on to the cup during=
 the pull?
 
Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandinaOn Jan 14, 2008, at 4:32 PM, 
raymanowen=
com wrote:
There is this to say abou=
t espresso machines and cup size:
If you inadvertently push the butt=
on next to the icon of a large size cup when you have a Bodum Assam in your=
 hand, you will soon realize that automation has not yet reached your stage=
. There is no sensor to stop the pump when you howl. 

-- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" = - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976 ------=_Part_12946_3406998.1200444422980--

25) From: homeroast
--Apple-Mail-63-946950048
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset-ASCII;
	format=flowed;
	delsp=yes
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Y'know, whatever circuitry allows you to adjust the volume of the  
"dose" of water for a single or a double (or a regular vs. lungo or  
ristretto vs. normale). Should've called it the "volumetrics" instead  
of whatever popped into my (rapidly aging) head.
Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
On Jan 15, 2008, at 6:47 PM, raymanowen wrote:
<Snip>
--Apple-Mail-63-946950048
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Y'know, whatever circuitry =
allows you to adjust the volume of the "dose" of water for a single or a =
double (or a regular vs. lungo or ristretto vs. normale). Should've =
called it the "volumetrics" instead of whatever popped into my (rapidly =
aging) head.
 Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina 
On Jan 15, =
2008, at 6:47 PM, raymanowen =
wrote:
I could always override the = dosimeter on my late Livia 90A... " Must be some amazing = espresso- Glows in the Dark? = --Apple-Mail-63-946950048--

26) From: homeroast
------=_Part_12994_9499484.1200445336920
Content-Type: text/plain; charsetO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Just thinking, maybe there was an implicit warranty on your machine- that
you would never have to replace more than half of it in 50,000 years... -ro
On Jan 15, 2008 5:56 PM, Sandra Andina  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
------=_Part_12994_9499484.1200445336920
Content-Type: text/html; charsetO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Just thinking, maybe there was an implicit warranty on your machine- that you would never have to replace more than half of it in 50,000 years... -ro
On Jan 15, 2008 5:56 PM, Sandra Andina <
sandraandina> wrote:
Y'know, whatever circuitry allows you to adjust the volume of the "dose" of water for a single or a double (or a regular vs. lungo or ristretto vs. normale). Should've called it the "volumetrics" instead of whatever popped into my (rapidly aging) head.
 
Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina
 
On Jan 15, 2008, at 6:47 PM, 
raymanowen wrote:
I could always override the dosimeter on my late Livia 90A... "
Must be some amazing espresso- Glows in the Dark?

-- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976 ------=_Part_12994_9499484.1200445336920--


HomeRoast Digest