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Topic: WOW!! (4 msgs / 873 lines)
1) From: homeroast
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We just joined this list serve several days ago, and are just overwhelmed b=
y the passion and interest homecoffee roasters have in their hobby!  
 
We are just starting, and would like to actually become part of the Farmers=
 Market community selling locally roasted coffee.  
Anyone out there selling their a roaster that roasted more than one pound o=
f coffee at a time?  We don't want to buy a large  commercial roaster, but =
would like one that roasts more than most home roasters.  
 
Thanks!!
 
Kingdom RoastersRob and Yves
To: homeroast: John: =
Re: +Behmor fire pictureDate: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:13:47 -0800Tim, if it wor=
ks, it should be a simple home fix.  Two screws to remove the afterburner c=
over, a little aluminum tape at the edges, and close it back up.  It will b=
e that easy.  More robust would be a little piece of thin aluminum, but tha=
t would be the "advanced" fix.At 19:53 1/18/2008, you wrote:
Bingo! It's been harder and harder to hit the first snaps of 2nd on 1 lb.  =
I was part of the whole voltage issue discussion and almost called my power=
 company-I'll clean the side first and see what happens. Looking forward to=
 your fan experiment-thanks for sharing-there's no way I'd even think to tr=
y that one.Tim---- Alchemist John  wrote: ===
===========Joe was kind enough to send me a couple pr=
eproduction models for Chocolate Alchemy and cocoa roasting.  I being the g=
eek that I am tore it down to frame and dissected it to see how it ticked.T=
he darker the interior becomes, the colder/longer roast times you will see.=
  The explanation is that the thermocouple is mounted on the other side of =
the wall on the right back (between a couple of mounting screws).  Dark mat=
erial absorbs heat more, so the TC senses the chamber temperature fast, in =
effect cooling it faster.  Alpenrost had this same issue.  General lengthen=
ing of roast times as the unit aged.  Cleaning the back of the right wall i=
s sufficient.Likewise, I am currently testing something.  There have been o=
n again/off again reports of "cold" roasters that could not do a pound in t=
he maximum time.  All power consumptions seem to indicate these roasters ar=
e not "cold".  What I think is happening is that the draw fan is pulling a =
little too much air out (due to natural +/- in the fan specs), causing a lo=
ss of heat.  Taping over SOME of the after burner entrance should cut that =
draw and make the roaster "hot" again.  I am going to try it out tomorrow w=
ith such a roaster.  I will report back.At 09:50 1/18/2008, you wrote:>REal=
ly! How do you guys know this much technical stuff? Anyway, does >it make t=
he Behmor run cooler or hotter then?  I've got a nice >"patina" from normal=
 use, and noticed what seems like a change in >performance. Should the whol=
e interior be cleaned, one area?>Tim>>>>---- Michael Dhabolt  wrote:>>=============>John,>> >Alch=
emist John wrote:> >important to clean the interior well in this event or t=
he thermostat tends> >to get false low reading due to the dark vs shiny sur=
faces.>>Thanks a bunch - good catch.>>Mike (just plain)>=>homeroast mailing list>http://lists.sweetmari=as.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast>To change your personal list settings (di=
gest options, vacations, >unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/mailli=stinfo.html#personalsettings>>=
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unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettin=gsJohn NanciAlChemist at largeZen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by=
 Gestalhttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/=John Nanci
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blen=
ding & Espresso pulling by Gestalt
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2) From: homeroast
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Look up RK Drums.  4 lbs on a bbq grill.  LOTS of people doing it.
At 20:42 1/18/2008, you wrote:
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Look up RK Drums.  4 lbs on a bbq grill.  LOTS of people doing
it.
At 20:42 1/18/2008, you wrote:
We just joined this list serve
several days ago, and are just overwhelmed by the passion and interest
homecoffee roasters have in their hobby!  
 
We are just starting, and would like to actually become part of the
Farmers Market community selling locally roasted coffee.  
Anyone out there selling their a roaster that roasted more than one pound
of coffee at a time?  We don't want to buy a large  commercial
roaster, but would like one that roasts more than most home
roasters.  
 
Thanks!!
 
Kingdom Roasters
Rob and Yves
<robnyves>
<www.vtpwac.org
>
To: homeroast
From: John
Subject: Re: +Behmor fire picture
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:13:47 -0800
Tim, if it works, it should be a simple home fix.  Two screws to
remove the afterburner cover, a little aluminum tape at the edges, and
close it back up.  It will be that easy.  More robust would be
a little piece of thin aluminum, but that would be the
"advanced" fix.
At 19:53 1/18/2008, you wrote:
Bingo! It's been harder and harder to hit the first snaps of 2nd on 1
lb.  I was part of the whole voltage issue discussion and almost
called my power company-I'll clean the side first and see what happens.
Looking forward to your fan experiment-thanks for sharing-there's no way
I'd even think to try that one.
Tim
---- Alchemist John <John> wrote:
=============
Joe was kind enough to send me a couple preproduction models for
Chocolate Alchemy and cocoa roasting.  I being the geek that I
am 
tore it down to frame and dissected it to see how it ticked.
The darker the interior becomes, the colder/longer roast times you
will see.  The explanation is that the thermocouple is mounted
on the 
other side of the wall on the right back (between a couple of 
mounting screws).  Dark material absorbs heat more, so the TC
senses 
the chamber temperature fast, in effect cooling it faster. 
Alpenrost 
had this same issue.  General lengthening of roast times as the
unit 
aged.  Cleaning the back of the right wall is
sufficient.
Likewise, I am currently testing something.  There have been on
again/off again reports of "cold" roasters that could not
do a pound 
in the maximum time.  All power consumptions seem to indicate
these 
roasters are not "cold".  What I think is happening is
that the draw 
fan is pulling a little too much air out (due to natural +/- in the
fan specs), causing a loss of heat.  Taping over SOME of the
after 
burner entrance should cut that draw and make the roaster
"hot" 
again.  I am going to try it out tomorrow with such a
roaster.  I 
will report back.
At 09:50 1/18/2008, you wrote:
>REally! How do you guys know this much technical stuff? Anyway,
does 
>it make the Behmor run cooler or hotter then?  I've got a
nice 
>"patina" from normal use, and noticed what seems like a
change in 
>performance. Should the whole interior be cleaned, one area?
>Tim
>
>
>
>---- Michael Dhabolt <michael.dhabolt>
wrote:
>
>=============
>John,
>
> >Alchemist John wrote:
> >important to clean the interior well in this event or the
thermostat tends
> >to get false low reading due to the dark vs shiny
surfaces.
>
>Thanks a bunch - good catch.
>
>Mike (just plain)
>
>homeroast mailing list
>
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http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/
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3) From: homeroast
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thanks!  great tip
 
Rob and Yves
To: homeroast: John: =
Re: +WOW!!Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:51:17 -0800Look up RK Drums.  4 lbs on =
a bbq grill.  LOTS of people doing it.At 20:42 1/18/2008, you wrote:
We just joined this list serve several days ago, and are just overwhelmed b=
y the passion and interest homecoffee roasters have in their hobby!   We ar=
e just starting, and would like to actually become part of the Farmers Mark=
et community selling locally roasted coffee.  Anyone out there selling thei=
r a roaster that roasted more than one pound of coffee at a time?  We don't=
 want to buy a large  commercial roaster, but would like one that roasts mo=
re than most home roasters.   Thanks!! Kingdom RoastersRob and Yves
To: homeroast
From: John
Subject: Re: +Behmor fire picture
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:13:47 -0800
Tim, if it works, it should be a simple home fix.  Two screws to remove the=
 afterburner cover, a little aluminum tape at the edges, and close it back =
up.  It will be that easy.  More robust would be a little piece of thin alu=
minum, but that would be the "advanced" fix.
At 19:53 1/18/2008, you wrote:
Bingo! It's been harder and harder to hit the first snaps of 2nd on 1 lb.  =
I was part of the whole voltage issue discussion and almost called my power=
 company-I'll clean the side first and see what happens. Looking forward to=
 your fan experiment-thanks for sharing-there's no way I'd even think to tr=
y that one.
Tim
---- Alchemist John  wrote: 
=============
Joe was kind enough to send me a couple preproduction models for 
Chocolate Alchemy and cocoa roasting.  I being the geek that I am 
tore it down to frame and dissected it to see how it ticked.
The darker the interior becomes, the colder/longer roast times you 
will see.  The explanation is that the thermocouple is mounted on the 
other side of the wall on the right back (between a couple of 
mounting screws).  Dark material absorbs heat more, so the TC senses 
the chamber temperature fast, in effect cooling it faster.  Alpenrost 
had this same issue.  General lengthening of roast times as the unit 
aged.  Cleaning the back of the right wall is sufficient.
Likewise, I am currently testing something.  There have been on 
again/off again reports of "cold" roasters that could not do a pound 
in the maximum time.  All power consumptions seem to indicate these 
roasters are not "cold".  What I think is happening is that the draw 
fan is pulling a little too much air out (due to natural +/- in the 
fan specs), causing a loss of heat.  Taping over SOME of the after 
burner entrance should cut that draw and make the roaster "hot" 
again.  I am going to try it out tomorrow with such a roaster.  I 
will report back.
At 09:50 1/18/2008, you wrote:
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John Nanci
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/John Nanci
AlChemist at large
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http://www=.chocolatealchemy.com/
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Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalt
http://www=.chocolatealchemy.com/

Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! 
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Rob and Yves,
        Look into Ron Kyles BBQ roasters at:
                  http://www.rkdrums.com/    pecan jim
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Rob and Yves,   =
    Look into Ron Kyles BBQ roasters =
at:               =
   http://www.rkdrums.com/&nb=sp;  pecan jim
On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Larabee =
Morrissette wrote:
We just joined this = list serve several days ago, and are just overwhelmed by the passion and = interest homecoffee roasters have in their hobby!     We are just = starting, and would like to actually become part of the Farmers Market = community selling locally roasted coffee.   Anyone out there = selling their a roaster that roasted more than one pound of coffee at a = time?  We don't want to buy a large  commercial roaster, but = would like one that roasts more than most home roasters.     Thanks!! &nb= sp; Kingdom Roasters Rob and Yves <robnyves> <<= a = href="http://www.vtpwac.org">www.vtpwac.org>To: homeroast= s.com From: JohnBingo! It's been harder and harder to hit the = first snaps of 2nd on 1 lb.  I was part of the whole voltage issue = discussion and almost called my power company-I'll clean the side first = and see what happens. Looking forward to your fan experiment-thanks for = sharing-there's no way I'd even think to try that = one. Tim ---- Alchemist John <John>= ; wrote:  ======== ====== Joe was kind enough to send me a couple = preproduction models for  Chocolate Alchemy and = cocoa roasting.  I being the geek that I am  tore it down to frame = and dissected it to see how it ticked. The darker the interior = becomes, the colder/longer roast times you  will see.  The = explanation is that the thermocouple is mounted on the  other side of the wall = on the right back (between a couple of  mounting screws).  = Dark material absorbs heat more, so the TC senses  the chamber temperature = fast, in effect cooling it faster.  Alpenrost  had this same = issue.  General lengthening of roast times as the unit  aged.  Cleaning = the back of the right wall is sufficient. Likewise, I am = currently testing something.  There have been on  again/off again reports = of "cold" roasters that could not do a pound  in the maximum = time.  All power consumptions seem to indicate these  roasters are not = "cold".  What I think is happening is that the draw  fan is pulling a little = too much air out (due to natural +/- in the  fan specs), causing a = loss of heat.  Taping over SOME of the after  burner entrance should = cut that draw and make the roaster "hot"  again.  I am going = to try it out tomorrow with such a roaster.  I  will report = back. At 09:50 1/18/2008, you wrote: >REally! How do you = guys know this much technical stuff? Anyway, does  >it make the Behmor = run cooler or hotter then?  I've got a nice  >"patina" from = normal use, and noticed what seems like a change in  >performance. Should = the whole interior be cleaned, one = area? >Tim > > > >---- Michael Dhabolt = <michael.dhabolt>= ; wrote: > >============= >Joh= n, > > >Alchemist John wrote: > >important to = clean the interior well in this event or the thermostat tends > = >to get false low reading due to the dark vs shiny = surfaces. > >Thanks a bunch - good = catch. > >Mike (just = plain) > >homer= oast mailing list > http://lists.sweetmarias.com/=mailman/listinfo/homeroast >To change your personal list = settings (digest options, vacations,  >unsvbscribes) go = to http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsetting=s > > &g= t;homeroast mailing list > http://lists.sweetmarias.com/=mailman/listinfo/homeroast >To change your personal list = settings (digest options, vacations,  >unsvbscribes) go = to http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsetting=s John Nanci AlChemist at large Zen Roasting , = Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalt http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/=homeroast mailing list http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast<=/a> To change your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, = unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsetting=s John = Nanci AlChemist at large Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso = pulling by Gestalt http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it = now! = --Apple-Mail-4--895486190--


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