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Topic: Vac'iing valve bags > RE: +#6 (7 msgs / 290 lines)
1) From: homeroast
Any seasoned Lister care to venture a guess? (Oh Brett, come out come out
where ever you are:-)
While there are faster (and way more expensive) commercial vac' units out
there currently using FoodSaver Pro III and 6Qt FoodSaver bulk canister. Can
only vac' three 1/2 or two 1# valve bags at a time and takes a bit of time
to purge the big canister. But time not wasted. While a set of heat sealed
valve bags getting vac'd weighing out and filling the next ones...
Typed taking a break and eating a Haole Hawaiian Huli-Huli Chicken Wrap with
side of macaroni potato salad. Quite tasty if I do say so myself! (One of
the offerings on our new menu FINALLY out last Monday.) Just finished vac'
bagging three batches of croutons for the freezer. (Each batch 1 loaf each
Rosemary, Multigrain & Sourdough.) Still have some cheese and meats to slice
before getting out of here. Yeah the Kafe is closed Sundays, doesn't mean
I'm not down here working! FWIW tomorrow's "menu featured" soup is Masman
Beef with Shitake Straw Mushrooms. Got excellent reviews following last
Monday's first offering. Funny, didn't get the recipe on paper and make the
first test batch until late evening last Saturday! (But it was already
created in my head:-) Haven't decided tomorrow's secondary "chef's choice"
soup yet.
Now gotta get back to it or will never get home and Debi will shoot me...
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[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Neil Atwood
	Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:12 PM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: Re: +#6
	
	Hi Mike,
	
	Can I ask what you use to vacuum 'seal' your bags?
	I also heat seal mine, but would like to do as you do and vacuum all
the remaining air from them before shipping.
	
	Regards
	-- 
	Neil Atwood - Blue Mountains, Oz
	
	On Jan 20, 2008 2:43 PM, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
	
		NOTE: rest equals into valve bags after all blend components
roasted and
		mixed. Valve bags heat sealed then vacuumed hard pack.
(Vacuum pulls out
		throught he one-way valve.) Degassing releases CO2 puffing
the valve bags 
		protecting the beans and providing wonderful "bag squeeze".
:-)
		
		Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
		 

2) From: homeroast
Thanks Mike.
It seems these type of devices are 'rare' and quite expensive in Australia.
Since asking you the question, I played around a bit with simply sticking
the nozzle of my 'roastery' vac cleaner over the valve on a 500g bag. Did
the job in about 10 seconds... 
Not very pretty, but appears to work well. ;-)
Cheers
Neil A.
Blue Mountains, Ozhttp://minstrygrounds.net.au- A blog about selecting, roasting and drinking
fine coffee

3) From: homeroast
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Ummm - I will try to guess this one...
Put your head in the bag, tighten around your neck, and inhale?
Nope, that's not right.
I passed on this, primarily because I believe Mike is hte expert in this
area, and I have no experience...
So - Is the answer - "FoodSaver" ?
Cheers,
Brett
On Jan 20, 2008 5:06 PM, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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Ummm - I will try to guess this one...
Put your head in the bag, tighten around your neck, and inhale?
Nope, that's not right.
I passed on this, primarily because I believe Mike is hte expert in this area, and I have no experience...
So - Is the answer - "FoodSaver" ?
Cheers,
Brett
On Jan 20, 2008 5:06 PM, miKe mcKoffee <mcKona> wrote:
Any seasoned Lister care to venture a guess? (Oh Brett, come out come out
where ever you are:-)
While there are faster (and way more expensive) commercial vac' units out
there currently using FoodSaver Pro III and 6Qt FoodSaver bulk canister. Can
only vac' three 1/2 or two 1# valve bags at a time and takes a bit of time
to purge the big canister. But time not wasted. While a set of heat sealed
valve bags getting vac'd weighing out and filling the next ones...
Typed taking a break and eating a Haole Hawaiian Huli-Huli Chicken Wrap with
side of macaroni potato salad. Quite tasty if I do say so myself! (One of
the offerings on our new menu FINALLY out last Monday.) Just finished vac'
bagging three batches of croutons for the freezer. (Each batch 1 loaf each
Rosemary, Multigrain & Sourdough.) Still have some cheese and meats to slice
before getting out of here. Yeah the Kafe is closed Sundays, doesn't mean
I'm not down here working! FWIW tomorrow's "menu featured" soup is Masman
Beef with Shitake Straw Mushrooms. Got excellent reviews following last
Monday's first offering. Funny, didn't get the recipe on paper and make the
first test batch until late evening last Saturday! (But it was already
created in my head:-) Haven't decided tomorrow's secondary "chef's choice"
soup yet.
Now gotta get back to it or will never get home and Debi will shoot me...
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Neil Atwood
        Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:12 PM
        To: homeroast
        Subject: Re: +#6
        Hi Mike,
        Can I ask what you use to vacuum 'seal' your bags?
        I also heat seal mine, but would like to do as you do and vacuum all
the remaining air from them before shipping.
        Regards
        --
        
        Neil Atwood - Blue Mountains, Oz
        On Jan 20, 2008 2:43 PM, miKe mcKoffee <mcKona> wrote:
                NOTE: rest equals into valve bags after all blend components
roasted and
                mixed. Valve bags heat sealed then vacuumed hard pack.
(Vacuum pulls out
                throught he one-way valve.) Degassing releases CO2 puffing
the valve bags
                protecting the beans and providing wonderful "bag squeeze".
:-)
                Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
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4) From: homeroast
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 10:22:35AM +1100, Neil Atwood wrote:
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I missed the start of this conversation, but don't underestimate the
power of human lungs.  Take a bit of vinyl tubing, stick one end over
the valve and the other in your mouth, and start sucking.  Using this
method I have sucked the air out of 1/2 lb and 1/4 lb bags in a single
lungful easily.  The trick is to make sure the valve doesn't seal
itself against the other side of the bag -- just make sure some beans
are in there to keep the space open.  I think you will be able to draw
as much vacuum as the bags are capable of holding for any appreciable
period of time anyway.
-- 
Randall

5) From: homeroast
Sure, you go right ahead and do THAT with our current low production rate
still waiting for the USRC 8 pounder to arrive 50 or so valve bags a week!
Be even more fun as we build wholesale clients and we can crank out 20
(profiled) pounds an hour...
Not to mention whatever you may think of your lung sucking capacity it won't
compare in Oxygen left inside the bag.
Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
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6) From: homeroast
And a simple piece of clear tape over the one-way valve will keep it sealed 
after sucking the air out.  Those one way valves are not totally sealed from 
outside air, just resistant, and the tape will seal it.
If you send it to someone and it might take a ride in a cargo jet, then 
unseal the one way valve to keep the bag from overinflating and popping open 
the zip loc.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

7) From: homeroast
My thoughts exactly Mike!
I'm currently doing around 25-30 bags per week, and the manual method, er,
sucks. ;-)
Neil A.
Blue Mountains, Ozhttp://minstrygrounds.net.au- A blog about selecting, roasting and drinking
fine coffee


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