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Topic: Question for Small Cafe Owners (8 msgs / 211 lines)
1) From: Mejia, Carlos
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I have a rudimentary question for any of you who have ever owned a small
coffee shop.  Is there someplace I could find a good list of all the
necessary equipment to document a business plan and start work on
financing and budgeting and all that good stuff?  ~carlos
 
 

2) From: Tim Harvey
I'm not a cafe owner, but I came across a book called "How to Open and Run a Profitable Cafe" that covers many of those items.  There was discussion a few months ago about business plans, don't remember who.
Tim
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I have a rudimentary question for any of you who have ever owned a small
coffee shop.  Is there someplace I could find a good list of all the
necessary equipment to document a business plan and start work on
financing and budgeting and all that good stuff?  ~carlos

3) From: Mejia, Carlos
Thanks Tim... I'll definitely check it out!  ~carlos

4) From: gin
Carlos:
I had a Pub and Cafe in Cupertino, CA for 6 years...
Basically you need to decide on what types of food you are going to prepare, get the necessary equipment for that type of food and drink;  most large equipment
makers offer a free service of compiling a list and a basic plan for your space. Each space is so totally different and unique for the individual persons involved. Great fun to plan and start just do not underestimate the cost to open.
I went into a space that was set up as a bar only and had to do food service planning as well as added keg space for draft beers.
I loved it, tons-o-work but very rewarding for me. Plan to work 20 hours a day to start and most likely 18 hours a day after...
When I was in Barnes and Noble the other day I saw some biz plan books for small business by Nolo Press, check out their website.
Make sure you have excellent insurance, extra capital in the bank and never hire your friends to work for/with you unless they have a vested (read capital) interest in the business.
ginny
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5) From: Joseph Robertson
Gin,
Very wise words and street smarts one can only get from experience. I
especially like the part about hiring friends, not. Not or don't do it. Yes,
I will soon be at that point when we need to decide who to add. My partner
wants to hold off till we have to. She is considering someone she knows, I
hope to dissuade her. She has trust issues like most of us but I know from
experience that it would not be smart.
JoeR
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6) From: gin
Joe:
the problem with hiring friends and family is that sooner or later (read sooner) they will expect/want/feel they deserve more. more of what? everything from wages to time off to all matter of consideration that is actually outside the realm of what you would give/allow any staff member. once in a great while it may work but you must set the rules up in writing and have all staff sign friends or not. draw the line, sometimes it is hard to do, if you do not 98% chance it will not work.
a "regular" employee today does not give a shit about your business and more then likely will abuse the rules. what will family and friends do???@  easy to figure out.
what kind of space do you two have? I would do it again if I could find the
"right space." 
I would love to hear about your space and what you plan to do food and beverage wise.
I am going to start thread on homeroasters.org, the forum on cafe openings.
If you are not a member yet just sign up, it take a few seconds and your membership is started asap.
I know there are some others out there who have been in this type of business arena and it would be great to start a thread on cafes...
you go guy,
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7) From: Mejia, Carlos
Thank you gin for the terrific advice.  I really appreciate hearing
first hand reports like this.  There's nothing better than experience to
learn from!  ~carlos

8) From: Tim Harvey
As an update, there is now a 3rd edition of this book for 2007.  It is renamed "Start & Run a Coffee Bar" by Tom Matzen & Marybeth Harrison. 
ISBN 13: 978-1-55180-771-3
ISBN 10: 1-55180-771-8
It has info now on wi-fi and other present day cafe topics.
It now includes a cd with spreadsheets, forms, etc. you'd need.
Tim
---- Tim Harvey  wrote: 
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I'm not a cafe owner, but I came across a book called "How to Open and Run a Profitable Cafe" that covers many of those items.  There was discussion a few months ago about business plans, don't remember who.
Tim
---- "Mejia wrote: 
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I have a rudimentary question for any of you who have ever owned a small
coffee shop.  Is there someplace I could find a good list of all the
necessary equipment to document a business plan and start work on
financing and budgeting and all that good stuff?  ~carlos


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