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Topic: USRC Kafe maiden run (18 msgs / 456 lines)
1) From: miKe mcKoffee
Got the USRC up and running this evening. After an initial 1100g batch to
get a bit of a feel for it decided to see well how'd it handle a larger
batch. (1100g 'cuz that'd be a size for approximate 2# post roast, like for
SO shelf stock of a LB and a couple halves.) Fired off 6# greens with gas
valve @100%, fan 50%, pre-heated to 420f. Low bean temp 232f ~2:15. Hit 250f
3:23 and upped fan to 75%. (Don't ask why!) 300F 5:20 fan to 80%. (gas valve
still 100%) 3:25f 6:27. Ramping "seemed" so far so good. Wasn't recording or
paying enough attention to air temp reading though, as shall be seen! 350f
7:40 chickened out and drop gas to 80% and fan to 100%. At 370f drop gas
again to 70%, 375f came in 9:24 and 1st crack (need to learn it's crack and
relative temp offset) and dropped gas further to 60%. Rapidly rose to 383f
so dropped gas to 50%. Bean mass temp kept rising so dropped gas to 20%.
Notes are rather shakey but basically initiated dump 13:14 IIRC 405f bean
mass around 20sec or so into second. Surprisingly nice even FC beans inside
and out. But definitely a bit fast and boo-koo smoke to be sure. Can't be
accused of being under powered to say the least! Did three more little 1100g
batches messing with profile system and autoroast mode. It'll take a "few"
more pounds to really learn and dial this puppy in and go for production
roasts.
Got a mess to clean up before heading home...
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2) From: Marty Wooten
Mike,
 
Thank you for sharing the first run with us even though it was another late night for you. I am glad to hear it is up and running. 
 
I couldn't imagine all of the fun you have been having with the roast duties up to this point ... and think of all of that new found "free" time on your hands ;o)  ... so I can't even type that with a straight face since we all know there are more things to do when you own your own business than there are hours in the day. 
 
Sounds like you are doing a great job Mike. Hang in there.
 
Marty
----- Original Message ----
From: miKe mcKoffee 
To: homeroast
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:15:04 AM
Subject: +USRC Kafe maiden run
Got the USRC up and running this evening. After an initial 1100g batch to
get a bit of a feel for it decided to see well how'd it handle a larger
batch. (1100g 'cuz that'd be a size for approximate 2# post roast, like for
SO shelf stock of a LB and a couple halves.) Fired off 6# greens with gas
valve @100%, fan 50%, pre-heated to 420f. Low bean temp 232f ~2:15. Hit 250f
3:23 and upped fan to 75%. (Don't ask why!) 300F 5:20 fan to 80%. (gas valve
still 100%) 3:25f 6:27. Ramping "seemed" so far so good. Wasn't recording or
paying enough attention to air temp reading though, as shall be seen! 350f
7:40 chickened out and drop gas to 80% and fan to 100%. At 370f drop gas
again to 70%, 375f came in 9:24 and 1st crack (need to learn it's crack and
relative temp offset) and dropped gas further to 60%. Rapidly rose to 383f
so dropped gas to 50%. Bean mass temp kept rising so dropped gas to 20%.
Notes are rather shakey but basically initiated dump 13:14 IIRC 405f bean
mass around 20sec or so into second. Surprisingly nice even FC beans inside
and out. But definitely a bit fast and boo-koo smoke to be sure. Can't be
accused of being under powered to say the least! Did three more little 1100g
batches messing with profile system and autoroast mode. It'll take a "few"
more pounds to really learn and dial this puppy in and go for production
roasts.
Got a mess to clean up before heading home...
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first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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3) From: Brett Mason
Great account - wish we could have been there, and applauded!
Brett
On 1/31/08, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

4) From: Les
Great report Mike.  It sounds like you are getting dialed in.  My USRC half
kilo roaster is suppose to ship tomorrow.  I am getting excited.
Les
On Jan 31, 2008 5:53 AM, Brett Mason  wrote:
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5) From: Joseph Robertson
Congratulations Mike and Bruce,
Many days and many nights in waiting finally came to bloom.
Wish I was there for the first flame. Enjoy piloting and learning the in's
and out's. Stay under the clouds and watch for the bridges. ;)
JoeR
On Jan 30, 2008 11:15 PM, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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6) From: Eddie Dove
Congrats miKe!  I bet that felt good to run that roaster!
Dreams do come true ...
Eddie
-- 
Stop telling God how big your storm is.
Instead, tell the storm how big your God is.
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7) From: miKe mcKoffee
Indeed can 'turn beans brown' in very reasonable times but a LONG way from
having it dialed in! Now if I was just starting roasting Journey I might
'think' ready for production. However, way too much under the belt to be
satisfied with simply turning beans brown:-) 
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[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Les
	Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:31 AM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: Re: +USRC Kafe maiden run
	
	Great report Mike.  It sounds like you are getting dialed in.  My
USRC half kilo roaster is suppose to ship tomorrow.  I am getting excited.
	 
	Les
	
	On Jan 31, 2008 5:53 AM, Brett Mason  wrote:
	
		Great account - wish we could have been there, and
applauded!
		Brett
		
		On 1/31/08, miKe mcKoffee  wrote: 
			Got the USRC up and running this evening. After an
initial 1100g batch to
			get a bit of a feel for it decided to see well how'd
it handle a larger
			batch. (1100g 'cuz that'd be a size for approximate
2# post roast, like for
			SO shelf stock of a LB and a couple halves.) Fired
off 6# greens with gas
			valve @100%, fan 50%, pre-heated to 420f. Low bean
temp 232f ~2:15. Hit 250f
			3:23 and upped fan to 75%. (Don't ask why!) 300F
5:20 fan to 80%. (gas valve
			still 100%) 3:25f 6:27. Ramping "seemed" so far so
good. Wasn't recording or
			paying enough attention to air temp reading though,
as shall be seen! 350f
			7:40 chickened out and drop gas to 80% and fan to
100%. At 370f drop gas
			again to 70%, 375f came in 9:24 and 1st crack (need
to learn it's crack and
			relative temp offset) and dropped gas further to
60%. Rapidly rose to 383f
			so dropped gas to 50%. Bean mass temp kept rising so
dropped gas to 20%.
			Notes are rather shakey but basically initiated dump
13:14 IIRC 405f bean
			mass around 20sec or so into second. Surprisingly
nice even FC beans inside
			and out. But definitely a bit fast and boo-koo smoke
to be sure. Can't be
			accused of being under powered to say the least! Did
three more little 1100g
			batches messing with profile system and autoroast
mode. It'll take a "few"
			more pounds to really learn and dial this puppy in
and go for production
			roasts.
			
			Got a mess to clean up before heading home...
			
			Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
		http://www.mcKonaKoffee.com 
			URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
		http://www.mckoffee.com/			Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a
solitary path. To know I must
			first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each
Personal enlightenment
			found exploring the many divergent foot steps of
Those who have gone before.
			
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8) From: Mike Chester
What do you plan to do with the brown beans that are not up to your "A" 
standards?  With the larger batches, you will be going through a lot of 
"learning beans."  I can think of a few options but none of them are great 
ideas.
1. toss them - Too expensive
2. Bag them up and sell as "seconds."  - You really don't want the customers 
to taste less than great results.
3. Blend them to achieve something good.  -  Hit or miss and not repeatable.
4. Give them to friends - A lot of money to give away.
5. Drink them yourself.  - A long time drinking lesser coffee.  You are 
probably your own pickiest critic.
6. Use them to brew in a method that has more margin for error.  (drip, 
etc.)
7. Re-roast in CCR to improve taste.  - only works if underroasted first 
time.
8. Multiple Traditions - costly
I am sure that there are other possibilities - I am just stirring the pot a 
bit.
I am sure that you will figure it out soon and will be producing larger 
batches of greatness.
BTW - Is it errantly installed yet?
Mike Chester

9) From: Mike Chester
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That is an interesting spell check moment.  I tried to type, Is it installed 
permanently yet.
I hope that it is not errantly installed.
Mike

10) From: Barry Dryden
Congratulations Mike
That's a major, major milestone for you!!  My your business prosper
and you shall enjoy the fruits of your labor.  My hat is off to you &
Bruce!
BarryD

11) From: miKe mcKoffee
Only one possible option in my world, #1. I never give away let alone sell
substandard coffee. Too expensive? IMO too expensive in the long run not to
toss 'em! But only 16# greens turned brown into the dumpster last night.
Cost of doing business. 
Hmmm, may look into taking lessor but marinally decent roasts to a shelter.
Already take any left over breads, pastries and soup to St. Paul's men's
shelter.
Roaster temp "installed" with exhaust run out through window during roasting
and free standing 5gal propane tank, piping and propane stored out of Kafe
while not in use. 
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12) From: Joseph Robertson
Yes, it is indeed, a major move from table top to floor model or commercial
machines. Volkswagen to B29's.
I understand your need / desire for only the best possible end product. Your
customer will no doubt know the difference. I like your idea of Shelter
beans. The owner of the roasting school / lab in Vermont has a bin just like
that. Everything goes into the bin all mixed up. These guys coming in from
the cold are getting some of the finest coffees the world has to offer. All
roasted," not quite right." What's not quite right to them? They love it and
the word of your coffee and good deeds still gets around.
JoeR
On Jan 31, 2008 9:16 AM, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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13) From: Mike Chester
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This is an excellent idea.  No matter how bad YOU think it would taste, I am 
sure that it is still WAY BETTER than the canned coffee that they normally 
would get.  I know that you would do this just for the joy of giving, but a 
tax write off is always helpful.
Mike

14) From: Vicki Smith
I ran a program that served coffee to about 100 homeless people a day. A 
local roaster and a local bakery sorta kinda adopted us, giving us their 
not quite perfect beans and leftover bread. It made a huge difference in 
the lives of the people coming to the program. Not only were they able 
to get very good food and coffee, we were also able to use the money we 
had set aside for inferior product for things like juice, milk, and 
cereal so we could offer a *real* breakfast.
v

15) From: Ed Needham
That's painful to hear.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

16) From: miKe mcKoffee
FWIW those "test" run greens where some Columbia I got from Tom for only
cost of shipping a few months back. He rejected them and the broker didn't
want them back. Not terrible, but not top quality either. Have an
"interesting" touch of sweaty sock note:-) Unfortunately only enough left
for another couple runs. Actually did a test Press Pot this evening from a
1100g FC batch run last night. Decided good enough to send to the men's
shelter.
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17) From: Joseph Robertson
Ed,
It's less painful when you become part of the solution for the less
fortunate.
I'm just glad that I'm able to help.
JoeR
On 2/1/08, Ed Needham  wrote:
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18) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
MiKe,
congrats. I will have to make a run to Vancouver soon and see it in  
person.
dave
On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:15 PM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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