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Topic: STupid Espresso machine question (12 msgs / 230 lines)
1) From: Aaron Scholten
Stupid question, so ill try to get to the point quickly.
I am moving into my new house and am looking to within the next few 
months... or so.... getting an espresso machine.  I am thinking of 
putting it on my counter in the kitchen, however there are cabinets all 
around the kitchen,  big fancy wood ones...   How much steam does an 
espresso machine make in general,... would it be a potential problem if 
it was left under a cabinet to do it's magic (problem as in, the steam 
hurting the cabinets over time)  or should I think about moving it out a 
bit or what?
One thing that just hit me like a freight train the other day though is, 
there is one . well room kind of. more like an area.. that I am not sure 
what I want to do with it,  at first thought of making it a little green 
house area, then though.  ooh this would be great for all my critters, 
they'd love it here, get to look outside and get a lot of 
attention...and there is plenty of room for them and the plants.... then 
it hit me. wow, this would make a fantastic bar area,... then it just 
hit me... umm... COFFEE BAR area,  set up all my coffee goodies here 
too, full blown everything and have a little coffee area.  I could 
easily put in a sink / running water.....  first step though I need a 
machine and to learn how to use the darned thing...  ok im rambling, 
sorry. but im exited.
Thank you in advance.

2) From: Barry Luterman
I told my wife the next house she could have anything she wanted. All I want
is a dedicated coffe bar room.
On Feb 2, 2008 10:38 AM, Aaron Scholten  wrote:

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4) From: Brett Mason
We're coming over top play coffee at Aaron's house!
On Sat, Feb 2, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Aaron Scholten  wrote:

5) From: Tom Ulmer
Unless the cabinets are laminated cardboard instead of fancy wood, I
wouldn't be concerned.

6) From: Aaron
Thank you Tom, I just wanted some input from someone who actually had 
one and could tell me what they experienced.
Now to figure out what kind of espresso machine I want....

7) From: Tom Ulmer
Lever. But you couldn't christen it with a sissy name...

8) From: Brett Mason
Hey Aaron,
Ask yourself if you want to pull milk drinks - I did and do...  If so, an HX
machine or double boiler is required...
Next ask yourself if you want to plumb it in, or if pour over makes sens.  I
have pour-over, but kept the option...
Next ask whether you want a water spigot for hot water - i.e. to top off
espresso and make Americano's...  I forgot that part - so I use the
grouphead and an empty portafilter to pull additional water - not real
efficient (Oops)...
Next ask whether you want lever, manual switch, semi-automatic, or an
The first two are the most hands on, the third is if you want it to be easy
for others, and the fourth is if you just want to press a button and get
beans in, espresso out - but you lose a lot of control...
Finally, ask about temp/pressure gauges, plumbed in drain, or bin to empty
manually, ask about stainless/chrome/hammered brass/copper and an Eagle on
for me - I got a great deal on a Nuova Simonelli Oscar - with a grey plastic
case (not sexy), and with E61 grouphead and great steam...  I hit what my
budget and goals called for...
Hope this diatribe helps,
On Sat, Feb 2, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Aaron  wrote:

9) From: Demian Ebert
My two cents worth, is that for what Brett calls a pour over you either need
access to the top back left corner (like on my Andreja) and cabinets get in
the way. If I weren't renting, I'd plumb it in. If you have a corner of a
counter where the cabinets don't come all the way out to the edge, you may
be able to orient a machine so you don't have to drag it out from under the
cabinets every time you want to fill it up.
I second the rest of Brett's email.
On Feb 3, 2008 1:37 PM, Brett Mason  wrote:

10) From: Barry Luterman
Actually the best and cheapest way around the difficulty of loading water on
big machines is to put chair gliders on the feet of the machine. Machine
glides easily yet stays put when you lock in PF.
On Feb 3, 2008 2:25 PM, Demian Ebert  wrote:

11) From: Dean
Or you could just bow to inevitability and build a basement man cave 
with an espresso bar that doesn't have overhead cabinets. 
Kind of like finally accepting that you need a Mazzer Mini (or Major), 
and a 4-group LM and maybe a Probat.......someday...
Also good for roasting, watching TV, etc.
Roasting (and answering e-mails) in my man cave in the weeds
Demian Ebert wrote:

12) From: Demian Ebert
Except (if I had a basement) it'd have to be a pooch and wife cave too. Not
a bad idea though. Maybe someday I'll be lucky enough to own a house I can
fix w/o someone else benifiting.
On Feb 4, 2008 4:45 PM, Dean  wrote:

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