Stupid question, so ill try to get to the point quickly. I am moving into my new house and am looking to within the next few months... or so.... getting an espresso machine. I am thinking of putting it on my counter in the kitchen, however there are cabinets all around the kitchen, big fancy wood ones... How much steam does an espresso machine make in general,... would it be a potential problem if it was left under a cabinet to do it's magic (problem as in, the steam hurting the cabinets over time) or should I think about moving it out a bit or what? One thing that just hit me like a freight train the other day though is, there is one . well room kind of. more like an area.. that I am not sure what I want to do with it, at first thought of making it a little green house area, then though. ooh this would be great for all my critters, they'd love it here, get to look outside and get a lot of attention...and there is plenty of room for them and the plants.... then it hit me. wow, this would make a fantastic bar area,... then it just hit me... umm... COFFEE BAR area, set up all my coffee goodies here too, full blown everything and have a little coffee area. I could easily put in a sink / running water..... first step though I need a machine and to learn how to use the darned thing... ok im rambling, sorry. but im exited. Thank you in advance. Aaron
I told my wife the next house she could have anything she wanted. All I want is a dedicated coffe bar room. On Feb 2, 2008 10:38 AM, Aaron Scholten wrote: <Snip>
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We're coming over top play coffee at Aaron's house! WooHoo! Brett On Sat, Feb 2, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Aaron Scholten wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
Unless the cabinets are laminated cardboard instead of fancy wood, I wouldn't be concerned.
Thank you Tom, I just wanted some input from someone who actually had one and could tell me what they experienced. Now to figure out what kind of espresso machine I want.... Aaron
Lever. But you couldn't christen it with a sissy name...
Hey Aaron, Ask yourself if you want to pull milk drinks - I did and do... If so, an HX machine or double boiler is required... Next ask yourself if you want to plumb it in, or if pour over makes sens. I have pour-over, but kept the option... Next ask whether you want a water spigot for hot water - i.e. to top off espresso and make Americano's... I forgot that part - so I use the grouphead and an empty portafilter to pull additional water - not real efficient (Oops)... Next ask whether you want lever, manual switch, semi-automatic, or an automatic... The first two are the most hands on, the third is if you want it to be easy for others, and the fourth is if you just want to press a button and get beans in, espresso out - but you lose a lot of control... Finally, ask about temp/pressure gauges, plumbed in drain, or bin to empty manually, ask about stainless/chrome/hammered brass/copper and an Eagle on top... for me - I got a great deal on a Nuova Simonelli Oscar - with a grey plastic case (not sexy), and with E61 grouphead and great steam... I hit what my budget and goals called for... Hope this diatribe helps, Brett On Sat, Feb 2, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Aaron wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
My two cents worth, is that for what Brett calls a pour over you either need access to the top back left corner (like on my Andreja) and cabinets get in the way. If I weren't renting, I'd plumb it in. If you have a corner of a counter where the cabinets don't come all the way out to the edge, you may be able to orient a machine so you don't have to drag it out from under the cabinets every time you want to fill it up. I second the rest of Brett's email. Demian On Feb 3, 2008 1:37 PM, Brett Mason wrote: <Snip>
Actually the best and cheapest way around the difficulty of loading water on big machines is to put chair gliders on the feet of the machine. Machine glides easily yet stays put when you lock in PF. On Feb 3, 2008 2:25 PM, Demian Ebert wrote: <Snip>
Or you could just bow to inevitability and build a basement man cave with an espresso bar that doesn't have overhead cabinets. Kind of like finally accepting that you need a Mazzer Mini (or Major), and a 4-group LM and maybe a Probat.......someday... Also good for roasting, watching TV, etc. Roasting (and answering e-mails) in my man cave in the weeds Dean Demian Ebert wrote: <Snip>
Except (if I had a basement) it'd have to be a pooch and wife cave too. Not a bad idea though. Maybe someday I'll be lucky enough to own a house I can fix w/o someone else benifiting. Demian On Feb 4, 2008 4:45 PM, Dean wrote: <Snip>