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1) From: Sean Rooney
I've attempted to search the archives for old discussions about the  
GeneCafe roaster.  It appears that I only have access to the Feb 2008  
archive.  I don't see an obvious way to get at older data.
Is there a way to do this, maybe a different archive search interface?
Sean
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2) From: Bill
Sean,
Just did a search for Gene Cafe and noticed that many if not all are posted
Feb. 10... I assume that was the day that the new list came up & on-line...
But I clicked a few of the threads and they are not from Feb 2008, they are
from earlier.  So the archive isn't limited to Feb 08, it just doesn't have
correct dates in there.  HTH
bill
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3) From: Sean Rooney
Hmm.
I get only 65 hits with a search for "Gene Cafe", and most are from  
the same, recent thread....there's got to be more than that in the  
complete archives...
Sean
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4) From: Bill
I got 151 hits with "gene cafe" and the oldest thread contained a post by
Pecan Jim in Aug 2004.  Perhaps capitalization matters...  Now, I would
imagine that that doesn't contain ALL the posts that have been made in
3.5years about this roaster, but you can also search "GC" "gc"
"genecafe"
"GeneCafe" and what not... might find most of em!bill
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5) From: Brett Mason
With all email clients being equal, I am sure this is not relevant...  BUT,
I find in my GMAIL that there are hundreds of hits when I search on "Gene
Cafe"...
I happen to love my GMail - and it's free!
So if you are not seeing hundreds, then somehow you are not getting to the
whole archive....
Brett
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6) From: Sean Rooney
I get 65 hits with "gene cafe" or "Gene Cafe" and 69 hits with "gene"  
and no hits with "GC" or "gc"
I am using the web interface I found here: http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comIs there another way to access the archives?
Are you guys searching your own personal email archives maybe?  I only  
joined yesterday...
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7) From: Bill
Sorry.  No, searchable archives are athttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/All the gene cafe posts are dated Feb 10, but that's where I was getting my
info.  And yes, Brett did a search on his gmail account.  But he's been
around here a while...
bill
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8) From: Brett Mason
Bill's right - check out themeyers.org - great archives there....
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9) From: Sean Rooney
thanks!  I had no way of finding that out without help from you guys.
151 hitsfor "gene cafe"  there....time for some reading!
Sean
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10) From: Dan Audette
Hi All...
I'm new to this....list, and roasting. I am using a toastmaster popcorn
popper and would like to hear feedback from someone else using something
similar. One thing for sure is that, compared to what I'm reading here, I'm
roasting MUCH faster. The longest roast I've done so far (of about 8 roasts)
has been  a little less than 6 minutes. And, about a minute less if it's a
second consecutive roast. And, I've burnt two roasts.
 I'm coming off a pretty nasty cold, so my taste buds surely weren't working
properly....should have waited, but couldn't! So, I'm not sure if my taste
buds are coming around, or the "3 day" rest is taking effect. Or, perhaps, a
combination of the two. In any event, coffee I roasted (and felt was lacking
in taste) a couple of days ago is tasting great now.
I am roasting several different coffees, as I purchased the 8lb sampler from
SM.
Anyway, I'd love to hear input on any of this. I am certainly willing to
"upgrade" at some point in time, however I think I will continue with the
popcorn roaster for a while and continue to educate myself on other options.
Thanks for "listening" .
Cheers,
Dan
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11) From: Bill
Dan,
welcome to the list!!!  Man, we have LOTS of new people on the list in the
last week.  It's awesome!
Remember: 2 basic ways to roast: fluid air bed and drum (and probably
stove-top would qualify as a third!).  You get different roasts using the
different techniques.  Your popper is a fluid air bed design, which is the
same as my FreshRoast or someone else's IRoast... lots of the discussion on
this list centers around drum roasters: Behmors, Genecafes, BBQ drums,
etc... their roast times are much longer, like 10-20 minutes.  So that's
what's going on.
6 minutes is a fine time for a popper, especially if it tastes good.
 Acidity is accentuated by air roasters, and they aren't supposed to be able
to develop body as well as a drum.  My FreshRoast will roast 70 g of coffee
in 3-4 minutes.  That's accentuated by the altitude of Cheyenne, which
speeds up air roasters.
So, continue doing what you're doing!  You're learning!  And enjoying your
coffee...the 2 important thing!  At some point you will become an expert on
your popper and may attempt to switch roasters.  You might mess with modding
your popper...plenty of experts of that on this list.
Again, welcome, and enjoy the journey!
bill
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12) From: Dan Audette
Thanks for your input Bill....I appreciate it. Looks like I offended somwone
by replying to all and not starting a new "thread".
And, we're practically neighbors....I live in Boulder!
Cheers,
Dan
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13) From: Brian Kamnetz
Dan,
You probably already know this, but the basic "control" for poppers is
the amount of greens that you roast in a batch. To SPEED UP the roast,
use MORE beans in a batch. To SLOW DOWN the roast, use LESS beans.
Many people will say, as Bill says, that your times are fine for a
popper. When I used to roast with a popper, I'd stop as soon as I hit
second. When I tried to roast lighter, I wasn't very happy with the
results. I think it is because it takes till second crack on the
outside (when the chips fly) for the inside of the beans to get
roasted.
Brian
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14) From: Brett Mason
You can add an extension cord for a popper, and this will lengthen the roast
a bit, and help you better manage flavor profiles...
I use my popper a lot, particularly since my BBQ & Drum are under a record
snowfall, still...  I am amazed at the great coffee that comes from a simple
appliance!
Brett
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15) From: Dan Audette
I'm interested in your bbq/drum set-up.....an option that I am conseidring.
Perhaps we could have an "aside" communication on this?
Thanks,
Dan
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16) From: Brett Mason
The best built and most qualified on the market are from RK Drums - see ROn
Kyle at www.rkdrums.com for more info.
www.homeroasters.org has many home-made roasters as well.
My drum has been made from a solid stainless steel bathroom waste can.  I
removed all the plastic, trimmed the base, attached all the parts to make a
closed solid drum, dremeled the base across to make a flap, used hinges and
some tension to make a workable door.  The whole thing is mounted on a
standard rotisserie spit, a high speed motor from rkdrums, and a 42000 BTU
BBQ....  DOes 2-3lb loads easily.  Mine is noisy so I don't hear the cracks
well.  Better designs, such as ROns, can help this....
For me, tinkering is part of the fun...
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17) From: Sean Cary
Any benefit to the material used in the RK over a solid SS?  I was poking
around trying to find the perforated steel that RK drums are made of...but
if solid stainless works that is easier to find.
The hobby shop on base has welders, plasma cutters etc - so I was figuring
to make my drum setup...
Been scoping the area for old bbq grills - as folks PCS/move they toss the
best stuff (been there done that...)
I have a motor and bar stock is easy - figure to cut a circle and weld
hinges to it to make a drop capability.
Not high on the "man I have a lot to do list", but something I am wanting to
get to this summer to get some bigger batches roasting.
Sean
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18) From: Brett Mason
I believe the perforated material allows the beat to heat faster and you
should hear the pops and cracks better...  You'll need a flame diffuser
unless you want a gloss black city roast....
So very glad to have you back, Sean!
Brett
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19) From: Jim De Hoog
Sean,  
Welcome back and check out my Ice Bucket roaster on our host's coffee images site. I used a SS bowl with the bottom cut out for the open end of my drum.  This way I can insert a tryer to look at my beans, inserted a thermocoupler for temps. 
Jim "Ice bucket roaster" De Hoog
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Any benefit to the material used in the RK over a solid SS?  I was poking
around trying to find the perforated steel that RK drums are made of...but
if solid stainless works that is easier to find.
The hobby shop on base has welders, plasma cutters etc - so I was figuring
to make my drum setup...
Been scoping the area for old bbq grills - as folks PCS/move they toss the
best stuff (been there done that...)
I have a motor and bar stock is easy - figure to cut a circle and weld
hinges to it to make a drop capability.
Not high on the "man I have a lot to do list", but something I am wanting to
get to this summer to get some bigger batches roasting.
Sean
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20) From: raymanowen
"The hobby shop on base has welders, plasma cutters etc -"
Oh! How I envy you! I can afford to toy with Vast Ideas and 0.5 Vast Plans.
I hate to think what I'd be cranking out if I tried to use my MAPP/O2 torch
and actually assemble my designs rather than think them through.
My metal fabricator mentor/ friend is in Montana- it's not as convenient to
ride over and make an assembly drawing for Vince to shoot down or fabricate.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
ENVY!
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21) From: neal
Just curious Brett, I've only been archiving my mailing list emails with
gmail for a couple weeks now and I already have close to 300. How many do
you have if you have archives all the way back to the beginning of the list?
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22) From: John Despres
I have no idea what Brett has, but since joining just before =
Thanksgiving, I have, to this very moment, 5,883 posts saved...
I'm curious about Brett's personal archive as well.
John
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23) From: Brett Mason
32064 dating back to 8 Oct 2004....
I love that GMail keeps it for me - and that it's free...
If I were building personal disk storage to keep my own mail, then I would
wrestle with it.  I also don't like that a Microsoft file system could trash
my disk contents - or that my own Phat-Phingering can do the same, or
worse....
I have saved to disk a few "items", in case GMail blows up.  I find the
archive nice - the info is not life-critical, but certainly the coffee is,
and the info supports THAT!
So. 32K since late 2004...
PNG Kimel, Clarity drip brewed, was awesome this morning - a ReRoasting
success!
Brett
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24) From: neal
I wonder how much of your 6.5 Gigs of gmail storage your homeroast posts
take up. Thats quite a collection.
Neal
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25) From: Brett Mason
Over 98% I am certain....
I do click by topics that don't interest me as much....  I trust others do
the same....
Brett
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26) From: Joseph Robertson
Brett,
I nomiate you our official historian. Can I google your archive?
JoeR
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27) From: Brett Mason
Certainly you can google it - but the best way is through
www.themeyers.org- the official archive.
I have been on the list for less than half of the list's life.  I just send
too many emails in.  I would be a weak resource, and direct you to others
such as MiKe, Les, Alchemist, Pecan Jim or Ginny....  I am a relative
newbie, who probably comments too much....
Brett
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28) From: Joseph Robertson
Cool....
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29) From: Paul Helbert
I calculate that you are probably using closer to 25% of your initial
allotment. If you need more gmail will add it.
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