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Topic: popcorn roast (19 msgs / 382 lines)
1) From: Dan Audette
I'm resending this under it's own "thread". My apologies for not following
the proper protocol in my first post!!
I've had some good/interesting responses already, and hope to attract more
with a "proper" posting.. Thanks all
Hi All...
I'm new to this....list, and roasting. I am using a toastmaster popcorn
popper and would like to hear feedback from someone else using something
similar. One thing for sure is that, compared to what I'm reading here, I'm
roasting MUCH faster. The longest roast I've done so far (of about 8 roasts)
has been  a little less than 6 minutes. And, about a minute less if it's a
second consecutive roast. And, I've burnt two roasts.
 I'm coming off a pretty nasty cold, so my taste buds surely weren't working
properly....should have waited, but couldn't! So, I'm not sure if my taste
buds are coming around, or the "3 day" rest is taking effect. Or, perhaps, a
combination of the two. In any event, coffee I roasted (and felt was lacking
in taste) a couple of days ago is tasting great now.
I am roasting several different coffees, as I purchased the 8lb sampler from
SM.
Anyway, I'd love to hear input on any of this. I am certainly willing to
"upgrade" at some point in time, however I think I will continue with the
popcorn roaster for a while and continue to educate myself on other options.
Thanks for "listening" .
Cheers,
Dan
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2) From: Doug Munoz
Hey Dan,
I have something similar to your toastmaster. I too am a newbie to roasting,
and just did 4 batches over the weekend. I find the barrel to be too short,
and the fan is underpowered. I think mines rated at 1200 watts, and anything
over 2.5 ounces won't move initially...unless I shake the thing. Finding the
roast uneven, and I'm too scared to let is go too far beyond first crack. I
need to find an alternative....was thinking about an i-Roast 2.
Doug
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3) From: Dan Audette
Hey Doug....
Thanks for your reply. Mine moves the beans nicely, but I can only roast a
small amount at a time. I found out that roasting smaller amounts works
better. IN any event, the most I can roast is 3/4 cup, but 1/2 cup works
best. I must say that I'm liking the coffee so far and that in time I will
definitely go bigger and better....not for now, however. I'll look to see
how many watts mine is.
Thanks,
Dan
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4) From: Bill
Dan,
welcome, especially for someone close!  There are a number of people on the
list who are in the "greater Denver area" (which in western terms is a
pretty big area), so you're in good company.
So yes, using a popper in Boulder will create faster roasts than the exact
same variables at sea level... it was explained to me that the popper fan is
able to circulate "more" air because it is thinner at elevation... I'm not a
technically inclined person, so I'll take their word for it.  I know that it
happens, even if I don't understand really well as to why...
As far as what Brian mentioned, I've never had an issue with a C or C+ roast
in my FreshRoast.  But if you get sour notes from a C roast, then I'd take
his advice...
And I was going to recommend RK's website, too, but Brett already did...
And welcome!
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5) From: Bill
Doug:
welcome to the list!  And welcome to the joys of home roasting, too!  if
your barrel is too short, check this page, might give you some ideas:http://www.sweetmarias.com/airpoppermods.chimney.htmlas far as the power, I've heard some people like to tilt their poppers to
get good mixing and agitation.
Not many people checking the list right now, only a few of us writing... I
was expecting a lot of activity this morning... but then I remembered that
everyone has the day off... You'll have plenty of suggestions by tomorrow
afternoon, when everyone comes in and responds to their email!
Good roasting!
bill
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6) From: Doug Munoz
I actually did the tilt thing, and you are right...it definitely helps with
circulation. May have to create a little wedge or something so I don't have
to hold it. I'll definitely check out the chimney. Might be what I'm looking
for! Thanks!
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7) From: Bill
yeah, I know some people on the list created a wedge to hold the roaster...
I think someone actually experimented with different angles and finding the
best for them... maybe someone has some suggestions...bill
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8) From: Bill
Doug,
You might wanna check out this page on the SM site...it's one of my
favorites:http://www.sweetmarias.com/homemade-homeroasters.htmlsome mods for popcorn poppers on there that you might wanna consider...
bill
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9) From: Doug Munoz
Excellent! Thanks!
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10) From: Brett Mason
Doug, try adding a soup can chimney to extend the barrel - try several soup
cans, unopened, to figure out which one fits.  Then open up both sides,
consume soup, clean the can, and extend the chimney.  This is the only mod
on my Poppery, but makes a big difference in reducing the number of JUMPERS
while I am roasting....
Brett
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11) From: Kroeker, Stan
Doug, for a more 'interactive' roast, play the game of batting the JUMPERS
back in.  It is sort of a combination of table tennis and whak-a-mole, all
about reflexes and finesse.  Watch out though, the JUMPERS secret weapon is
that they are really, really hot.
Actually the jumpers usually signal you're getting close to the end of the
roast, somewhere slightly before second crack.
Stan

12) From: Brett Mason
I also find that JUMPERS tell me I put an awful lot of beans into the
popper....  I have begun to reduce load size from 160g to 144g - still
working out this silly roaster thingy....
Brett
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13) From: Paul Helbert
I roast almost exclusively with poppers. I do my large batches in a
whirly-pop and smaller ones in air poppers. The only problems I have ever
had with the air poppers have been that some roast too fast. These are the
ones you might want to open up and isolate the heater from the fan so that
you can cut back on heat via toggling an on/off switch. Several other
methods of slowing a roast in an air popper are: varying the bean load,
tilting the popper (with a chimney to prevent jump-out) and reducing voltage
via a long extension cord (which will  also slow the fan). There is nothing
wrong with having to stir the beans for the first couple of minutes so long
as they begin to move on their own after that.
There is also nothing worrisome about the short metal vessel in some
poppers. The plastic above the metal is Bakelite or something resembling it,
and it does not resists heat very well.
I shoot for first crack at six to eight minutes and dump at ten to twelve
with just a few snaps in the colander prior to cooling.
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14) From: Brian Kamnetz
Doug,
Depending on how handy you are, you might decide to modify your popper
by putting the fan and heater on separate controls. There are several
plans floating around. There are several popper modification links on
this page:http://homeroaster.com/homemade.htmlBrian
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15) From: Dan Audette
Good advice, thanks Paul. Isolating the heater w/switch sounds like the
answer. I'll look into it!
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16) From: Paul Helbert
Use a thermometer. That's the first mod.
 If you isolate the heat from the fan you'll notice that it doesn't take
much off time to drop the temp in an air popper. You'll probably find
yourself just bumping the heat off for a few seconds at a time.
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17) From: Dave Kvindlog
Welcome, Dan!
You can slow down your roasts by using a 50' or 100' outdoor extension
cord.  You can also slow your roasts by reducing the bean mass.  Too many
beans hold too much heat.  How much are you roasting at a time?
Try these ideas one at a time to see how it affects your roasts.
Dave Kvindlog
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18) From: Doug Munoz
LOL....that's awesome!
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19) From: Paul Helbert
What I said:
There is also nothing worrisome about the short metal vessel in some
poppers. The plastic above the metal is Bakelite or something resembling it,
and it does not resists heat very well.
What I meant to say:
There is also nothing worrisome about the short metal vessel in some
poppers. The plastic above the metal is Bakelite or something resembling it,
and it resists heat very well.
Sorry about that.
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