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Topic: A New Guy (29 msgs / 615 lines)
1) From: TheBard
Thought I'd be polite and introduce myself.  So, Hi, the name's James.
I manage a small coffee shop and well, the more I learn about coffee  
the more picky I become.  Thought I'd try my hand at roasting some  
coffee for my own use.  so if anyone has any tips (or just wants to  
say)  feel free to do so.
I've only roasted coffee once in my life, over a some glowing coals in  
a small Dutch oven.  Had a friend drag me to a weekend reenactment of  
some Old West stuff and everything we had to do hat to stick to a  
certain look.  Not going to say it was good coffee but it was hot and  
at the time that was good enough haha.
I though I'd try the low-tech way first and see what I could do with a  
wok over some charcoal outside.  Sure I know I'll scorch some beans  
but the way I see it, if you learn to do stuff "the old way" it helps  
you later on when you get the chance to upgrade the equipment.   
Besides, I know where I can get a "cheap" wok that should work.
I though of licking up a stove-top popcorn popper but I'd already  
ordered the wok for something else when I found the Sweet Maria's site  
and this list.
Take Care,
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2) From: Floyd Lozano
Welcome to the list!
My suggestion would be to see if you have a heat gun in the garage as
that would work as well with your wok for roasting, and provides you
an alternative to test and better control heat.  A good next step.
Also, visit thrift shops and pick up a wicked cheap popper that meets
the suggested specs (air slits on side, not a bottom vent) to use,
there's tons of info on the Sweet Maria's site and elsewhere.  It's
only upward from here.
-F
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3) From: Scott Miller
James,
Welcome!
There are folks on the list who use woks, stovetop poppers, and other "low
tech" methods with success.
Although it's possible to spend plenty of $$ on roasting equipment and other
gadgets for brewing coffee, many folks start out with simpler and less
expensive roasting equipment. I still find using a heat gun an enjoyable way
to roast small batches.
cheers,
Scott
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4) From: Dave Kvindlog
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Hot air popcorn poppers also work great, but for small batches (i.e., 1/2
cup).  Personal use only.  Easy to learn though.
Welcome to the list!  You'll find lots of expertise, friends, humor, and
(sometimes strong, but gernally helpful) opinions on this list.
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5) From: Paul Helbert
Welcome!
Whatever you do, take good notes. Every green coffee is different. Sometimes
the ambient temperature or humidity can mess with your results. Sometimes
you 'll drink it all up within a couple of days and other times you'll
accidentally leave a roast two weeks and find some surprises. Go back to the
roast notes and jot down your observations. In time that set of notes will
help you zero in on the results you want and deserve.
My small batches (100-150 grams) are done in a hot air popper. Large batches
(250-500g) in a "Whirley Pop" stovetop popper. I used to use the heat gun &
bread machine but ruined my heat gun and haven't gotten another yet
Paul
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6) From: Larry Johnson
Welcome! This is a great list and a great place to learn. You're
already getting a lot of good advice here. Some things you may notice;
1.) There's more than one answer to most any question.
2.) Everybody's got an opinion (well, except for Brett and MiKe).
3.) When you ask a question, provide as much info as possible. Nobody
can (or will) tell you what to like.
4.) The grinder is the key. Save the grinder - save the world.
According to some people, if you have the right grinder you don't even
have to roast the beans.
5.) Ok, #4 is just silly.
6.) There's no place to buy greens other than Sweet Maria's. No.
Other. Place. Trust us on this. If you're gonna go to the trouble of
roasting your own coffee, you owe it to yourself to start out with the
absolute best beans available.
Have fun and be sure to tell us how your roasts come out!
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7) From: Rich Adams
Welcome to the list.
New guys/gals are invited to join the List Tradition.
Basically, if you have stuff you are not using anymore, or stuff you do use 
but have a few of,  you offer it up here and people submit their names for a 
"drawing".  The 'offerer' usually pays the shipping.  The winner of the 
Tradition is then obliged to repeat it with something they have.  And so it 
goes, on and on.  I am delinquent in an offering so below is the post from a 
week or so ago.   Good Luck.
With an upcoming company relocation to Denver coming up this is a perfect
time to offer a long over due (on my part) tradition to the list.
I would like to offer up a West Bend Poppery (P1) for a list tradition.
This P1 was a spare and I never used it nor modified it in any way, the only
problem is I am missing the top/butter dish thing.  The roasting chamber can
be extended with your standard vegetable/soup/chili/whatever can easily.   A
Fresh Roast chaff collector can then be used on top of the can for a
somewhat chaff free roasting experience.
This model is a breeze to take apart with some basic tools, easily split
wired to use the on/off switch for heat only, and easy modification of the
temp cut off thermostat.  The Poppery weighs 4 pounds 2 ounces, the later
Poppery II model weighs 1 pound 10 ounces.  The Poppery uses a solid cast
aluminum roasting chamber and is built like a tank.
I will also include a new Dietz brand heavy gauge glass chimney designed for
oil lamps that if your handy enough can also be used as a roast chamber
extension.
If interested send an email to me at radams with "poppery
tradition" in the subject line.
All entries to be submitted before noon CST on March 3rd at which time I
will draw the lucky recipients name.
Good Luck and thanks to all listers for a wonderful informative list!!
Respectfully,
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8) From: J.W.Bullfrog
Hey Jim G,
Are you still studying the effect of the tradition, and the effect on list
civility?
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9) From: Jim Gundlach
On Feb 29, 2008, at 11:54 AM, TheBard wrote:
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The personal data are outdated but this has a nice treatment of wok  
roasting outside.
      http://www.ineedcoffee.com/00/03/wok/    pecan jim
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10) From: Lynne
First - welcome James! I roast both stove-top (low tech as can be) and I am
in the learning process, roasting in an IR2. I think there is no better way
to learn roasting than low-tech. (I never took notes - always meant to,
believe it's great, but I'm not very organized).
Second - I love your list Larry. I'd like to steal your "Save the Grinder,
Save the World" statement, with your permission. :)
Keep roasting - and posting (what'ya know it, I'm a poet...), James!
Lynne
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11) From: Jim Gundlach
Nope,
         I used to have students in my social research methods course  
go in and code responses looking for the relative incidence of flames  
before and after the introduction of the tradition.  Every time they  
looked at it, they found the flames were reduced by between fifty and  
sixty-five percent.  I retired at the beginning of last summer so I  
don't have the student labor to collect data therefore I don't  
evaluate it anymore.  But even without systematic data collection, it  
is relatively easy to see that this is the most civil of the six email  
lists I subscribe to.
        pecan jim
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12) From: Jim Gundlach
Just went back to that page.   I don't remember the beans being as  
dark as they look in that picture.   I never intentionally roasted  
past the first signs of second crack.
     pecan jim
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13) From: Bill
James,
The image of roasting coffee in a dutch oven is classic... I've done plenty
of dutch oven cooking in the red desert and i can really see that!  I
normally roast my coffee at home to carry out into the boonies...
I do have a serious concern, though... charcoal?  I've never heard of anyone
using that, not that i've been around that long.  but I wonder if you will
get enough heat for long enough to roast what you want... why not try a
coleman stove or a simple propane burner?  I gotta imagine for simple
repeatability and ease that a gas would be better than a charcoal fire.
Man, that'd be fun, though...get a good fire with nice coals, throw on the
coffee, let er rip...
I have been enjoying using a heat gun and stainless steel bowl for my coffee
roasting.  Only problem is that the wind blows in Cheyenne and so I have to
be choosy about my nights of roasting.
Anyway, welcome to the list and i see you've already gotten lots of free
advice.  Including mine.  happy roasting!
bill
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14) From: Dave Kvindlog
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Charcoal is very easy to use with dutch ovens.  Learned it when I was a
BSA Assistant Scoutmaster.  You get much more control over temperature when
using charcoal bricks.  Each one is roughly 15 degrees F.  You have to
rotate new bricks in as the older ones burn out.  When cooking with a dutch
oven, about 2/3 of the heat is put on top of the oven rather than under it.
I've made cakes, pies, bread (put 95% of the bricks on top for bread),
...everything...in a dutch oven.  Great control for cooking.
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15) From: Bill
Dave,
Used charcoal for cooking plenty of times.  But roasting?  I'm still
incredulous... I'll believe it when I hear that it works!  I must just be
too skeptical.
bill
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16) From: Dave Kvindlog
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Bill  wrote:
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It's too cold and snowy out yet to give it a try, but I'm game to give it a
go.  If I can cook it on the stove or in the oven, I have always been able
to reproduce the same result in my dutch oven.  Sometime this spring...
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17) From: Bill
Dave,
Can't wait to hear about the results!  I was out hunting on Monday (it was
40 F) and it was absolutely wonderful.  Reminded me that spring might just
be only a few months away...  good roasting!
bill
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18) From: Brett Mason
I've done several skillet roasts over charcoal and over campfires...
Impresses teh SPL at Wood Badge too...
Brett
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19) From: Brett Mason
Ummm - correct.
Too skeptical.
Seems there's a lot of folks want to know how to pilot without trying to
fly?
Brett
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20) From: TheBard
The only thing use in my grill is natural lump charcoal, so I've  
gotten pretty good at fire management.  And well, think about it this  
way, the main way people cooked for years was over coals, not the  
flame of the fire.  More control that way.
As far as the heat out put I'll have to be careful, a charcoal fire  
can burn quite hot and if I don't watch it too much heat my be my main  
problem.  I've seen, and helped, guys weld steel with a charcoal fire  
so, I imagine I'll have enough time to roast a few beans at least.
James P.
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21) From: Paul Helbert
We got quite a surprise using coals from a wood fire one February on the
Chattooga River. I had put the DO in the coals to preheat while cutting the
fat into the flour for biscuits. Once the dough was ready, I opened the lid
and was met with a wall of flame. Those were the only biscuits I ever
burned. At home on the patio I had always used charcoal. The coals from a
fire are way hotter than charcoal. The cast iron dutch oven and real food
are among the many reasons I go canoe camping instead of backpacking.
Yesterday was my sixteenth birthday so it's time for the boat to carry the
load.
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22) From: Sean Cary
" Yesterday was my sixteenth birthday so it's time for the boat to carry the
load."
16th?
When I was 16 I would carry the boat!
:-)
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23) From: Brett Mason
Play on Feb 29....
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24) From: John Despres
16 X 4, uh, well, Paul can ride the boat now.
Happy 64, Paul!
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25) From: Dave Kvindlog
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How fun (or irritating!) to have your BD on leap day.  Happy 16th, Paul.
Hope you got some good joe on your BD...
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26) From: Sean Cary
duh - missed that
penny dropped now
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27) From: Paul Helbert
He He Heh,
Got you there ;>)
If Brett hadn't chimed in with that, I'd have told you that they served me
my usual Porter with dinner at the pub last night.
A very merry un-birthday to all.
Paul
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shaft.
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28) From: Sean Cary
dang - I have to do the same.  I forgot in my rush to get out of here last
year that my last roast on my SC/TO the shaft gave way and the stir rod
broke off...right at the end of the last roast I did before kissing the wife
and kids and shoving off.
Did my first roast yesterday since coming home El Salvador Finca Kilimanjaro
or such...and I had to just thread the nut over the remaining threads and
cut loose...  Made it through the roast, but not many more of those.
I have an extra motor I will mod - need to do that tonight!
Thanks for reminding me!  Happy belated birthday.
Sean
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29) From: J.W.Bullfrog
Ah, well since I was off-list for about 1&1/2 yrs that sorta expalins it.
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