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Topic: Larger flat rate boxes now available? (11 msgs / 242 lines)
1) From: Edward Bourgeois
It seems the new larger usps priority flat rate box are now on the
market. Need to put in an order. Ground is not a good option from CA.
to MA. Was hoping Tom would be getting some soon and see how many #s
will fit in one that is 50% bigger.
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2) From: Dave Kvindlog
On 3/4/08, Edward Bourgeois  wrote:
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3) From: Seth Grandeau
Though ground is slower, I found it to be almost the same cost as the USPS
12 lb box + insurance (hey, I ordered Kona!).  I've opted for UPS for CA to
MA.  As long as I have a stash, I don't mind waiting. :)
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4) From: Floyd Lozano
The issue is if you want a 20 lb bag, you're gonna feel that cost pain
shipping cross country, on top of the long wait and potential to see
what Brown can do TO you instead of FOR you ;)  I plan on making a
60lb order right about the time that flat rate big boxes become a
shipping option, assuming the coffees I want are still available then!
 I'm a patient man though, still working through the old stash.
Today's coffee, Peru Las Delicias, Zenon Vargas, though I may have
roasted it a bit dark and it's starting to show its age, it's still a
compelling cup.
-F
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5) From: Edward Bourgeois
20lbs CA. to MA. UPS ground is $20.73 using 2- 12lb usps flat rate is
$19.70. Ups ground concerns me more as the the weather heats up with
often a week on the road.
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6) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
I will let Maria or Derek chime in, but we tried out the box and it 
is only slightly larger. I am sad to report that it doesn't fit 20 
Lbs. It seemed to fit 16-18 when we tried it and that was absolutely 
maxxed out, but I was on my way out the door to Guatemala so maybe 
Derek or Josh can chime in on the final results of our trials...
Tom
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7) From: Seth Grandeau
How big a range in density is there with coffee?  I read that some beans are
denser than others.  Is there much variation in how "big" 20 lbs of coffee
is?
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8) From: Floyd Lozano
That's assuming you split it up.  They ship 20lb in one sack, as I
understand it.  At any rate, given the test Tom mentions, it seems the
larger box is a no go.  I know the smaller ones can fit 15 in a pinch,
for certain coffees, but many times bulging.  I am saddened =(
-F
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9) From: Sweet Maria's Coffee
Hello...
We're trying to figure out how this is going to work.
It doesn't seem to be an added savings for people unfortunately. USPS 
just raised their price in accordance with the weight increase in the 
new box.
It's in the near future though. We need to do software updates, get 
the boxes, see what will work ...  We'll make an announcement here 
when this is ready.
We could fit three 5lb bags in the new box. We were just about able 
to fit 16 1lbs in the new box. 15-16lb looks like the limit and we 
might have to say 15lb depending on how big beans will work with this.
Here's a price breakdown Maria figured out:
Per pound price of shipping by flat rate
.87 new 16lb box
vs
.82 old 12lb box
Then again, you may save, what, like 40cents because you are buying 
three 5lbs versus two 5lbs and a 2lb... You lost yet?
Thanks for the feedback everyone!... We're talking green coffee and 
bags only for this. I'll paste Tom's original email down below from 
years back (ignore the Harvey stuff)
Best,
Derek
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Okay folks, this whole USPS Flat Rate Box has ruined my life. I spent
much of last week and the weekend too trying to figure out a way we
can offer it. It doesn't work. We simply can't offer what needs to be
a volume-based shipping calculation alongside a weight-based
calculation at this time.
So here is our fix ... a temporary "band-aid" approach.
First, I am only telling the list about this right now. It's an
"insider deal" at this point. If it works I will add an page with the
explaination and  "terms and conditions" listed below. Unfortunately,
if it doesn't work out for us, we are going to have to pull it.
The main way this is going to fail is if 1. customers choose it when
they are not eligible, that is, when they are buying something other
than green coffee, and more than 12 Lbs. and 2. when in generates
excessive emails for Maria and Derek and me, with people asking for
exceptions, additions, special circumstances.
Okay, here's the low-tech fix: Buy up to 12 lbs of green coffee ...
it can be 5 Lbs, it can be 8, it can be 10, whatever, but NEVER more
than 12 Lbs. It cannot be any other product except our cloth logo
bags matching the amounts of coffee purchased.
When you check out, chose the purposefully cryptic shipping option
:"Customer Pick Up - Hold for Harvey ($8.50)" We had to make the
option unattractive to those who don't know what it is, who haven't
read this email.
Why Harvey? Well, here's our USPS guy! Why $8.50? We have to add .80
for our USPS pickup fees and packing supplies.
Oh, duh ... this is only good for the U.S. and will work for Alaska,
Hawaii, PR, and FPO/APO too.
Remember, everything bad about the USPS still applies here- spotty
tracking, no insurance currently offered, occasional lost packages,
2-3 days is NOT a guarantee AT ALL - I get some Priority Mails in 2
days, some in 5 ... I have had ones that took 2 weeks!!! Nomatter
what you think about UPS, it's trackable, always insured up to $100,
and about 99% on time according to their time in transit map. If I
lived a few states away and UPS was a couple bucks more, I would
choose UPS personally!
SO this is out beta run of this, and I really hope it works. In a few
months I hope there will be a software upgrade for our system that
will implement it in a better way. Anyone who understands the rules
can try this out. I really hope this saves some money, and doesn't
create headaches for you all or for us.
Tom
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10) From: Dennis & Marjorie True
Bummer! I was so hoping for the 20# in there Oh well.... back to brown
Dennis
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11) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_Th=F8gersen?=
Hi,
Will this new size also apply for international flatrate boxes, if or  when 
it will be available. I almost always buy 5 pounders so a 15 pound box would 
be nice, and wwith international shipment and 39 percent customs and other 
charges toto get a box from the local postal service, a rice in prices for 
each pound on a few cents really does not matter.
Claus


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