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Topic: Coffee and Kidney Stones (14 msgs / 223 lines)
1) From: Dennis Parham
well I just got out of ER yesterday from having 2 Kidney Stones... OMG  
they hurt! anyway.. (not from Dr.) but other people I knew would make  
comment to not drink or limit coffee if you had then or prone to  
getting them... now I guess we need a kidney stone safe bean!! lol I  
was reading several medical articles that refute this and say coffee  
may actually lower the risk of kidney stones because of the presence  
of magnesium and citrate ... here is one article I read... any  
feedback?? http://www.1888articles.com/coffee-and-kidney-stones-03l34a4ka9.htmlDennis P
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2) From: Lynne
Dennis - Hope you are feeling much better - heard those are nasty!
I raise my cup to any evidence that my habit is good for me! (Except I am
going to be switching to decaf [only SM's decaf, of course], because my
stress level is through the roof... yet again).
Lynne
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3) From: Brian Kamnetz
Dennis,
I haven't had a chance to read any of the articles, but the ones that
say we can continue to drink coffee seem much more reasonable to me!
Brian
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4) From: Barry Luterman
I agree. I am reminded of the line from "Guys and Dolls". When the Uncle in
The Salvation Army is drinking a cup of coffee he says, "This stuff is so
good I wonder why nobody decided it is a sin?"
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5) From: Dennis Parham
hahah yup... lol well I have one more going through its process ... Im  
told that caffeine can be an issue... but I have never had them before  
and have had allot of espressos.. the odd thing is... I only got them  
when I started drinking drip coffee last few months while trying to  
get a new boiler element sent to me for my '90 Faema Compact  that  
went on the fritz few months ago... I usually only have 1 or 2  
espressos a day... but I know in espresso form its a different makeup  
than drip or even french press... so.. as I always liked anyway.. as  
soon as my element arrives if they will get off their kiester and send  
it... ( not telling names since everyone there probably also reads  
posts and not want to bad mouth anyone.. they have served me very well  
in the past..)  but for now... GET MY ELEMENT HERE!!! LMAO! D
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6) From: Paul Helbert
I have some Mormon friends who live near a river I often canoe. They keep a
jar (the same jar...for years) of instant hidden away in a cabinet for the
likes of me who might pop in for an unexpected visit. I know Mormons don't
drink the stuff, but am not sure if they think its a sin. Same goes for
Seventh Day Adventists.
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Paul Helbert
We have enough youth.
How about a fountain of smart?
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7) From: Cameron Forde
I was backpacking in Utah about 20 years ago and we stopped for
breakfast in Blanding.  The waitress frowned when we all ordered
coffee and then practically refused to serve refills.  We couldn't
figure out why we were having so much trouble getting a second cup of
coffee.  It wasn't until after we had left the cafe that we remembered
the whole coffee and Mormons thing.
Cameron
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8) From: Ken Mary
Avoid soy foods and other vegetables with a high oxalate content:http://www.mercola.com/2001/oct/27/soy_kidney_stones.htmhttp://www.naturalnews.com/022630.html
Both OTC and prescription drugs can cause kidney disease:http://www.mercola.com/2005/jan/8/kidney_disease.htm--
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9) From: Kevin
I read somewhere that the first Catholic Pope to consume coffee liked it so
much he declared it a gift from God.  I think the same thing happened with
chocolate.  Good thing the Pope liked it or then we Catholics would have two
more things to feel guilty about.
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10) From: mvivit
I've lived and worked in the Salt Lake valley (Utah) for over 20  
years. The culture is changing a bit in the metropolitan areas, but  
one still runs into definite coffee bias in smaller towns and some  
mom-and-pop establishments. When I moved here I got into a discussion  
with some folks about why hot caffeine (coffee) was bad, but a cold  
Pepsi was OK. Doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense to me...until  
someone said most of the edicts had to do with what the then-pioneers  
could produce on their own rather than trade for with the gentiles.  
They couldn't grow coffee even in the southern parts of the state:  
Utah's Dixie area.
Mary in Utah
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11) From: Dennis Parham
So.. I guess opening a coffee shop there and roaster might be a bad  
business idea?? lol
Dennis P
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12) From: Lynne
Hahahaha - how true, how true...
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13) From: Sandy Andina
There are several kinds of kidney stones, and not everyone is  
susceptible to all of them: uric acid (avoid foods rich in purines),  
calcium oxalate (avoid high-oxalate foods, as well as milk in tea),  
and struvite (avoid everything else).  My mom (alev hasholom) had the  
first two (only one bout of each, fortunately) and my office manager  
gets all three, especially struvite.  The only safe foods for her are  
bread and water---distilled water, white bread, no crusts. But she's  
also a Type 2 diabetic, so there goes the white bread!   Life is a  
balancing act--something's gonna get us eventually.
Sandy Andina
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14) From: Allon Stern
On Mar 6, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Sandy Andina wrote:
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You can cut out coffee and never get high,
but you're still gonna still gonna, still gonna die.
( props to Shel Silverstein -  )
-
allon
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