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Topic: Pacific Bay vs Black Cat > Coffee shops in Chicago (4 msgs / 188 lines)
1) From: miKe mcKoffee
Before saying "not as good as XXX" I have to ask, how do the shots you pull
compare to the shots of the same coffee pulled at their café? If your sho=
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not equal to (or better than) look to your technique not the bean. =
While Black Cat indeed a forgiving blend to pull, personally I find it a wee
bit ho-hum. But that's a personal taste thing...
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2) From: Gary Foster
I'm not a pro barista by any stretch, but I have to say my shots at home =
are every bit as good as the ones at PB once I got the grind, dose and =
temp dialed in.
-- Gary F.
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3) From: miKe mcKoffee
Gary,
First let me say hopefully no offense was taken 'cuz no offense was
intended! Sounds like your personal preference just prefers BC over PB.
Kind of reminds me of this one dude who keeps proclaiming Blend X makes the
"best espresso in the world". Bull, there are many top flight espresso
blends and/or SO's out there from various quality roasters. Of course he's a
rep for the Blend X roaster so he should think highly of what he's trying to
sell. But hmmm, said Blend X wasn't rated the top espresso in the recent
World Barista competition, guess he must just be referring to their in house
espresso evaluation comparisons.
FWIW I'm no "pro barista" either just a possibly advanced home barista home
roaster who happens to now own/run (be owned/run by) a Roastery Kafe:-)
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4) From: Gary Foster
Oh no worries, no offense was taken.  I thought it was a valid question. =
  Lord knows I've pulled some terrible shots on my cranky Silvia (have =
to say putting a pid on her made a world of difference, I'm just not =
good at temp surfing).  I've gotten much better though.  I even got a =
naked portafilter to help me dial in my tamp better and was pleasantly =
surprised to see that I was already doing a fairly good tamp already and =
only had to tweak it a bit.
FWIW, the first time I stopped by pacific bay they were pulling shots =
off a batch that had been roasted only 1 or 2 days before and I don't =
think it had nearly enough rest time.  The shots were extremely bright =
and "jazzy" for lack of a better term (sorry, my coffee vocabulary sucks =
but I think my beer tasting vocabulary makes up for it heh).  I went =
ahead and bought a pound of the beans anyway and let them rest longer =
and then tried them.  While they were still a bit brighter than I =
normally prefer, they were world's better than the first taste I tried. =
  I definitely have to pull them a bit hotter than the black cat and =
they are less forgiving.
So, I went back to the shop and tried a few more espressi to compare and =
they were quite a bit better as well with slightly older beans (again =
with that bright note though).  I know many people prefer many different =
types of blends, I personally am *really* enjoying my black cat.  It's =
rich and deep and chewy to my palate.  It's good as straight shots and =
it also stands up well to my cappuccini habit.  I have some of the SM's =
classic Italian blend (and some of the decaf Donkey) that I'll roast up =
as soon as all my other beans are gone (I have about a half pound of cat =
and about a half pound of the pacific bay beans still to work through). =
  I'm really looking forward to trying the SM blends (and I'm looking =
forward to not paying $18 a lb for beans counting shipping anymore =
either lol).
I tend to prefer espresso with deeper notes.  I like the =
caramel/toffee/chocolate notes with the occasional bit of berry.  If you =
think about it as a symphony, I liken the berry notes to the occasional =
piccolo that floats out above the rest of the piece.  I don't like too =
much of it, just enough to keep everything from getting too heavy and =
ponderous.
As it is, the area where I'm at in East Bay doesn't have a whole lot of =
*good* coffee shops handy unless I want to make the trek into oakland or =
berkeley.  Pacific Bay was recommended to me by some people on coffee =
geek and I was pleasantly surprised by them.  Not floored, but I liked =
them enough to go back and thought I'd recommend them to the original =
person who was asking for coffee places in the East Bay.
-- Gary F.
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