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Topic: need a new dripper (20 msgs / 518 lines)
1) From: Gary Foster
Finally convinced the wife we need to junk the old cuisinart grind and 
brew dripper (yay!) but I was unable to convince her we needed to just 
get a big 12 cup bodum... which is what I'd prefer.  I use a smaller 4 
cup bodum for myself.
So, in the interest of finding a *good* dripper that isn't too fiddly 
for her to use and isn't a bucket full of money (I've already spent too 
much money between my roaster, my silvia, the pid upgrade I installed, 
the naked portafilter, the rocky grinder, etc etc etc) I've been looking 
around.
I do *not* want a technivorm (she'd murder me and hide the body if I 
spent that much).  I can't convince her to use anything other than a 
straight up automatic dripper so I'm leaning towards the newco OCS 12. 
Anyone have a better recommendation?  Price and convenience are very 
closely allied with "must make excellent coffee" in this equation.  She 
cares about the price and ease, I don't want to trade one crappy brewer 
for another one.
In addition, anyone know where I can find a good deal on one of these 
OCS 12's?  Google isn't coughing up too many leads for me today.
-- Gary F.
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2) From: Rich
And just exactly is an OCS 12?  And what makes it so special?
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3) From: Eddie Dove
"I do *not* want a technivorm (she'd murder me and hide the body if I
spent that much)."
We all have sacrifices to make for our loved ones ...
Eddie
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4) From: Eddie Dove
Newco OCS-12.  Like the Technivorm, garnered the approval of the SCAA.
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5) From: Gary Foster
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Rich  wrote:
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It's this:http://www.newcocoffee.com/brewers/ocs-12.htmlSpent some time reading reviews and it's supposedly one of the better
drippers on the market (and reasonably priced).  About half the price
of the TV.
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6) From: Aaron
About a year, maybe more.. ago I posted a mod to the list you can do to 
a regular run of the mill machine and most of them, get them to put out 
the water hot enough to properly brew the coffee.
That's the main thing right there, what the Tvorn has and the others 
dont.  HOT water.   the TV does in the 190's  the others maybe 160's....
Find the tube that comes up through from the bottom of the brewer, that 
generally runs through the water compartment, and push a piece of vinyl 
tybing over it with sealant on the bottom.  What you are doing is 
basically making like a double walled tube so there's an air space 
between the tube carrying the water and the vinyl tubing which is 
against the water... this way the water in the holding compartment isn't 
taking all the heat out of the water coming up the tube to your coffee 
ground pit.  I got a coffee pot that went from about 165 degrees to 
about 200 degrees using this method and the coffee taste really 
good.....  See thats the way those pots generally work, they have a 
heating thingie on the bottom that boils the water and the steam from 
the boiling water pushes the rest of the water burbling up through the 
tube, your goal is to keep as much of that heat as possible in that 
water during its trip from the bottom to the top of the pot... and not 
pay $185.00 to do so.
Aaron
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7) From: Rich
One on flea-bay with a gotta-have-it-now of $140.00.  If it were my $$ I 
would opt for a used single burner commercial Bunn and take a screw 
driver to the thermostat to set the H2O temp to what I wanted.  No 
coffee snob appeal though..  But you can even get a real swiss gold 
filter that fits the big Bunn filter basket.  And you can buy paper 
filters at SAMs without going broke, and they fit.
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8) From: Laura Micucci
Is this it?http://cgi.ebay.com/NEWCO-HOME-BREWER-MAKER-FINALLY-HOT-COFFEE-12-CUP_W0QQitemZ180224513491QQihZ008QQcategoryZ116011QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemOn Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Gary Foster  wrote:
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9) From: Seth Grandeau
I've been very happy with my Capresso thermal coffee maker.  It gets up to
200 degrees.  Amazon has had a model in the $50 range (I've seen it between
50 and 80, depending on the day) that looks great, but sounds like it may be
a little "tricky" with spillage.  Model ST600
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10) From: Brett Mason
They don't listen Aaron.  They'll mod a $3 popper to heck and back
(where the nice agnostics go), but spend 1 hour to get a top of the
line brewer from a $19.95 brewer?  Nope, they won't do it...
Maybe you can get a Bunn for under $100, and maybe it will brew slow
enough and hold enough coffee to overcome the known problems.
Maybe you can learn to brew with a turkey fryer over propane...
Geez Aaron this just wears me out.  But life is like that, and we'd
rather hope than make a good drip brewer...
Let us know how you make out - or give your wife our addresses so we
can come to your memorial when you get the Technivorm...
Brett
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11) From: Ed Needham
Watch out with the cheaper filters.  They sometimes impart a nasty taste.
My white Chemex filters cost $7 per 100 and are worth every penny.
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12) From: Gary Townsend
Ed,
I'm all in with your comments about the Chemex filters...
I teamed up one of my Chemex pots with a 1970's NIB Norelco 12 Dial A Brew.
197-201F in the basket, $5. local yard sale.
Using my Rocky grinder set at 25 (according to my hopper), true zero is
another 17 notches under the 'marked' zero.
I use this combo everyday for morning drip. The coffee stays warm during the
brewing process, and it makes enough coffee for my wife and I to enjoy it.
It's never on more than an hour, and makes enough to fill my thermos 1 liter
and top off my travel mug.
Easy, fresh, clean and the whole set up, (Rocky - SM $285. 3 years ago) +
Chemex $40. + Norelco $5.+ Chemex filters $9. local shop.
$340. I can use my Rocky for other things too...like espresso ;-)
Gary
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13) From: Dean De Crisce
I decided to heed your words with the response "screw it...im gonna take
apart the dripper and see if I can do this mod." So, i took apart this 35$
Gevalia 2-mug coffee dripper, and found that it is built so that the tube
carrying the heated water is actually separated by a plastic wall from the
cold unheated water. I guess maybe its not that bad. Perhaps I should just
try to run water thru an empty drip cup and check the temp arriving in the
cup...I'll do that. Thanks.
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14) From: John Despres
Dean,
The most important temperature reading you can take is as the water hits =
the grounds. Best extraction takes place about 200 degrees. The temp in =
your cup will definitely be cooler.
If you can fit a thermometer into the filter holder, that's your best =
place to take a temp reading.
John
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15) From: Dean De Crisce
I checked it. The temp in the cup with just straight water was 180. I guess
not hot enough...which angers me because the machine does not appear to be
easily modifiable.
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16) From: Brian Kamnetz
Haven't heard from Justin for a while, but Justin used to talk up the
Cuisinart Brew Central. He said he tested the water temps and that
they were adequately hot.
Brian
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17) From: Terry Stockdale
I use a Cuisinart Brew Central.  I killed my model DCC-1200 last week,  
when I forgot to insert the caraffe.  It became an instant percolator,  
as the filter overflowed back to the water resrvoir.
That's when I found that Cuisinart had replaced the model with a new  
model number.  I haven't measured the brew temp yet, but, it tastes  
good.
Terry
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18) From: Dean De Crisce
Thanks John...i'll try that later tonight...maybe there is still hope for t=
he thing.
Dean De Crisce
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19) From: Gary Foster
Just an update on this... thanks to Bill Van Huis for pointing out the 
GCBC has a group buy discount on the Newco machines.  I called Joanne at 
Newco today and ordered one for $99, with about $10 more for shipping. 
She said they've sold quite a few through that particular group buy deal.
Very nice deal.  Thanks for the pointer Bill!  It also inspired me to 
actually join the GCBC... I'll have to order a nice big sampler from Tom 
to get an idea for what origins I like before I take part in any group 
buys though heh.
My wife will be delighted if I finally stop bitching about the old drip 
machine I'm sure.
-- Gary F.
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20) From: Dean De Crisce
Thanks John...i'll try that later tonight...maybe there is still hope for t=
he thing.
Dean De Crisce
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