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Topic: True confessions time (12 msgs / 269 lines)
1) From: Mike Loew
True confessions time
Is there anyone else on this list that has never been in a Starbucks besides myself? 
I'm curious.
I love coffee. 
I enjoy roasting coffee. 
I have never been in any "coffee" joint in my life.
I'm 60 and have been a coffee drinker all my adult life.
I fell in love with real coffee when I worked in an area that had The Northwestern Coffee Mills (since moved) across the street from my job  and whose owner educated me as to what coffee can really taste like. That might have been 30 years ago. It's never occurred to me to go in a coffee shop. Part of that might be my knowledge I have no idea what all coffee choices are. I know what an espresso is, but an Americano et all draws a blank look from me.
Should I be embarrassed?
Poor barista's; until a few years ago I had no idea they had a name for a coffeemaker! :-)
Mike
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2) From: Bryan Wray
Where do you live Mike, if you don't mind me asking?  As a "pro" (i still hate that term) barista myself (meaning I make my living making people coffee- but far above the ranks of the Starbucks "push a button coffee servers") I can definitely re-assure you that there are TONS of people, at least in my area, that are in the same boat as you.  But chances are, if you went into a shop and told them that you needed about 4 or so minutes to look at the menu (so long as they had descriptions) not only would they be more than willing to let you, they would probably help explain any questions.  I think it's important for people to experiment with many different drink types to find a type that truly suits them.  I have different types of drinks for different beans, different times of day, depending on how many coffees I have already had that day, etc, etc, (none of which are any sort of set rule...!).  It's just fun to play around.  I think I might get bored if I just had "double,
 double, double, double, double" all the time... maybe not, but I love to experiment too much to find out.  One of my favorite things to do is to find out if a bean is better suited for espresso or drip.  Normally I find that once I get them dialed in, they are better suited for 'spro (probably because I tend to enjoy 'spro more) but sometimes not.  And then after I verify that they are a good straight shot, I'll see how they respond to milk.  It's fun to experiment! (of course YMMV)
But yeah, depending on where you live there might not be any need to go to a shop anyway; the whole trip might just give you a horrible idea of what goes on in a quality shop.  then again, maybe you have something like Intelligentsia, Stumptown, Counter Culture, Alterra, Zoka, Cafe Grumpy, etc in your backyard and you don't even know it!  Better make sure... haha.
-Bry
"It is my hope that people realize that coffee is more than just a caffeine delivery service, it can be a culinary art"- Chris Owens of Cafe Grumpy in NYC.
       
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3) From: Allon Stern
On Mar 29, 2008, at 2:50 AM, Bryan Wray wrote:
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Last time I had a double double double double double, I couldn't  
sleep all night.
;)
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4) From: John Despres
Hi, my name is John and I've been in a Starbucks.
Mostly out of necessity, though. I've never really liked their coffee =
and haven't been in a coffee joint for coffee since I started roasting =
my own. In fact, since I started, I've had exactly one cup of =
"production" coffee at a greasy spoon diner and I couldn't drink it. The =
breakfast was excellent, though.
These days if I join friends in a coffee joint, I enjoy a chai or =
something else. My friends laugh at me but since most of them have had =
my roasted coffee, they also understand...
I've taken the CSA pledge and have no problem sticking to it. I can do =
without if I can't have fresh roasted.
J
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5) From: peterz
Hi, I am PeterZ and I drank coffee in a /restaurant/ last weekend.
It was so bad...
I had fogotten.
But when I saw the little packs of sugar I remembered..
Yup!
Got to keep adding those little packets,
don't worry about the pile of paper on the table.
Start with 4 or 5, then stir. (Four oz cup remember.)
If you can tap the spoon on the bottom, and it makes a sharp clink.. add 
some more.
Repeat until the sound of the spoon tap is muffled.
Should be okay then, but add cream before you taste it. 
(geesh, I had forgot that too!)
At least five of those little half and half plastic thingies.
Add to taste.
You may have to make room in the cup for the proper amount.
I go by the color.
Oh yes, I had forgotten
So much bother to try to drink what the world thinks is coffee.
PeterZ
Loving homeroast, here in LHC.
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6) From: kevin creason
Oh man, your story has me dreading my trip to Tucson in two weeks.
Camping was breeze-- got a stove, make what coffee I want, the way I want.
Hotel.. friend's house... all day in hotel for conference... Hilton doesn't
mean good coffee... ayee!
I'm thinking I'll take the FP and a thermos. I think I have a thermos.... If
not, I will soon!
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-- 
-Kevin
/* Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you
with experience. */
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7) From: Bill
Travel coffee kit:Bodum whirly-blade
Bodum mini ibis water kettle
AeroPress.
Lots of fresh homeroast.
I get delicious coffee anywhere... which is so nice.  Sorry about the
hilton!
bill
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8) From: Treshell
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I was reading a wonderful children's book on the lifetime of coffee and how
it went country to country.  If you stop and think about how and why we have
coffee as pretty much the first thing each day, along with our prayers of
gratefulness to the Almighty who allowed this miracle in a cup, it is
basically because some one before us was a gourmet.  Just like us he/she had
to figure out the best method for the proper travel kit of coffee.  Plus how
much home roast to take with him.  Some times for whole armies.
Tres
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9) From: Seth Grandeau
For those of us in America, the British domination of the tea trade had a
little to do with our early entry into coffee.
Also, the availability of instant coffee during WWII got many GIs hooked on
coffee.  When they came home, the US coffee industry really took off.
And to think, many here complain about Starbucks. :)
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10) From: Paul Helbert
On this subject you might enjoy reading Mark Pendergrast's Uncommon
Grounds, The History of Coffee and How it Transformed Our World,
copyright 1999, 458 pages, Basic Books, NY.
Tom has a review on Sweet Maria's site but lists it as unavailable,
obsolete. I got mine on Amazon or eBay last year.  Amazon lists 25
used & new available from $6.05.
-- 
Paul Helbert
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11) From: Jim Gundlach
My favorite source of used and hard to find books ishttp://www.abebooks.com
   They have 65 copies listed ranging from $4.31 plus @$3.99  
shipping.  They also have a signed copy for $10.00 and several first  
editions from $12.00.  But, no signed first editions.
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12) From: Bill
Tres,
I try to point out to people how ludicrous coffee is, and why it has to be
handled with absolute care.  Seriously, who said, "let's extract the seed
from that berry, dry it, burn it, grind it, and dump it into boiling
water!"???  What a concept!  And what a drink!  Don't your monks sell
two-handed cups because that's a tradition of thanking the Maker with two
hands?  Every morning over a cuppa...
bill
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