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Topic: And, so it begins... (5 msgs / 202 lines)
1) From: Rick Copple
The Behmor arrived today. Dug everything out, wiped it down, ran it 
through a cleaning cycle as recommended. Let it spend some alone time, 
cooling down. Then, after some careful thought, decided I would use the 
India Baba coffee bean. They are a normal sized, normal chaff, standard 
type coffee bean and I have three pounds of them.
I did have a little trouble getting the drum back out after the cleaning 
cycle. But, I had read up on what to do before the thing every arrived. 
Used a Q-tip to put some olive oil where the square peg goes into it, 
and gradually worked it out without too much trouble.
So, I began my first Behmor roast.
Put a half-pound of beans in, and because I wanted to make sure I had 
plenty of time to watch and experience it, set if for 1 pound. P1 (full 
power all the time) as Tom suggested, default time at 18 minutes, and 
let her rip.
I was shooting for a C+ roast, one recommended level for this bean. 
After it had been spinning and cooking for 10 minutes, I heard the first 
sounds of 1st crack. By the time it had reached 12 minutes (6 minutes 
left on the count down timer) 1st crack had ended. I didn't let it go 
much past that point, recalling that there would be some coasting time 
with this thing. So, figured to cut it off there and see if it didn't 
coast on in to a solid C+ roast. Not completely sure it did, but it is 
either at the top end of a city roast, or the bottom end of a city+.
They are not sitting on my counter, resting, and I'll get a chance to 
brew some tomorrow morning to see how they taste. It will be 
interesting, because this bean is one of the odd ones for me. When I 
first read the description, it sounded right up my alley. Nutty, 
chocolate, both are flavors that I like in a bean. So, based purely on 
the description, I went ahead and ordered 5#. But, as it turned out, the 
bean has mostly been so-so. Good, not bad at all, but not as good as I 
had hoped. Probably why I had roasted only a couple pounds of it since 
buying it.
So, I'm interested to see if roasting in the Behmor makes this one any 
better than I've had in my wok, especially after someone mentioned 
getting some blueberry out of it. Being it wasn't even in the 
description, I've never looked for it, and wouldn't know how to go about 
roasting to find it. But, what I had hoped was some solid nut flavor, 
primarily. What I've had was a bit more fuzzy than I had hoped, and 
muted. It's possible the Behmor will bring that out better than the wok. 
:crosses fingers:
The other interesting thing is in Joe's notes he mentions that the 
default times are set based on what it would take for that roast profile 
to get to second crack with a 116v connection. I believe on half pound, 
P1 it is 12 minutes. For me, when I arrived at 12 minutes, it had just 
finished second crack. Maybe it was just around the corner, heard there 
isn't a ton of time at P1.
That would suggest, if I took a volt meter to the outlet, that it would 
register a bit below 116v. Okay, now I'm curious. Hold on....well, don't 
know if this volt meter is accurate. It read 135. ?
Anywho, it seemed to all work well. It was nice getting to relax and 
watch the roast go instead of stirring the whole time. Nice to not have 
to pull down everything on the window sill, put the fan up and clean all 
the chaff off the floor and counters after cooling the beans.
So, I've logged my first roast in it. Nothing real exciting, that 
everyone here hasn't already heard, but it was exciting to get it and 
run it. Can't wait to taste the results--might Aeropress a cup later 
tonight!
-- 
Rick Copple
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2) From: Marty Wooten
Congratulations on the new roaster. You will have to let us know how the
brew goes.
Marty
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Rick Copple  wrote:
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3) From: Rick Copple
Marty Wooten wrote:
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Did Aeropress a cup tonight. I do think the nutty flavor came out more. 
It's better. Maybe not as great as I had imagined reading the 
description, but a good solid cup of java that is very enjoyable, and 
seems to improve as it cools on the nutty side.
I should mention, as I noticed in my first post my fingers must have 
gotten ahead of my mind, that at 12 minutes into the roast, it had 
finished first crack...not second, which of course would probably mean 
the roaster would be in flames by that point. Second crack, if I read 
the info right, was probably a good one to two minutes away still when I 
hit cool.
Also, it ground very smoothly in the Zass. No difficulty at all like 
when I roast to this level in the wok. Pretty satisfied overall with my 
first roast. I think now, for testing purposes, I'll roast another half 
pound at P2 and see how that one tastes. Maybe Sunday or late tomorrow.
I need someone to help me drink all this coffee! ;)
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4) From: Rick Copple
Rick Copple wrote:
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Further update. After a night's rest, and brewing in my Yama vacpot, the 
nutty flavors have broken through much stronger, more like what I had 
imagined. The cup was very tasty this morning, along with my blueberry 
pancakes. Um!
I think the difficulty with this coffee in the wok is to get this 
flavor, you have to do a good city+ roast. While doable, it is much 
harder in the wok to get a complete city+ roast. By that, I mean the 
beans are at a range of stages for one, and even on the same bean, the 
flatter sides roast darker than the rest of the bean. So, really what 
you have is some bean parts at city+, flat sides at full city(+), and 
other beans that are really at city or lower. Put together, they make a 
good cup generally, but to get the specific flavors that would develop 
at a certain spot on the lighter roast levels is more difficult to pull 
off well due to the wide variations in the roast. As you get to full 
city and beyond, those variations are minimized and it is much easier to 
hit a flavor that develops, say, at full city+.
That, and I can tell the bean in the Behmor is more fully cooked, 
through and through. In the wok, I would generally take the heat level 
to the point that it took at least 15 minutes to get to a city or city+, 
in order to give it enough time in the heat and pan to more completely 
cook the beans. But even still, when I ground those beans, they were 
hard to grind in the Zass. At times, I had to grab the whole turning 
lever to apply enough pressure and leverage to crush some of the beans, 
and my muscles were especially tired after grinding for a pot. I 
attributed some of that to the fact that the water vapors are not 
trapped so easily, but in addition to that, I think the insides of the 
beans didn't get enough heat exposure with the conductive method of the 
wok to roast to the same level as the outside, or close to it. Instead, 
I highly suspect that the core of the beans would be not as well roasted.
And its possible I should have tried for a 20 minute city roast in the 
wok. But, in any case, at city and city+ roasts is where I think the 
Behmor will shine compared to the wok. The city+ beans this morning were 
easier to grind than a full city roast in the wok, which tells me 
something about how completely the beans were cooked inside. And the 
flavor seems to confirm that. Much more developed at this point than 
what I might have tasted from a wok city+ roast.
I have to admit, I'm eager to roast the IMV to a city roast in this. I 
had some great flavors in my wok city roast, but I'm guessing it will be 
even better in the Behmor. But first I want to run some more roast with 
the same bean (India Baba Budan), try different profiles to see what the 
effects are, get a better feel when to cut it off to hit the roast level 
I want, etc.
Fun, fun, fun!
-- 
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5) From: Dave
Congratulatios on a successful start with the Behmor. I threw away my
first roast from mine. While not charbucks dark, it was definitely
darker than I was ever going to drink it.
That Baba Budan is a great coffee, just the type I like. I just
finished the last of what I had on hand this week.
I need to roast this morning, I wonder what it'll be???
Enjoy the Behmor, and the coffee!
-- 
Dave
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It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
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