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Topic: LIGHTS OUT (16 msgs / 327 lines)
1) From: Greg
Turn them lights off
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2) From: Brett Mason
Why?
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3) From: Aaron
So the wilburs feel better about themselves.  They can save the earth.  
Funny though, I wonder when mankind will quit being so arrogant, so 
ignorant and pretending we actually have a significant impact on the 
planet.  The planet has been through ice ages, meteor strikes, volcanic 
eruptions, terrible radiation from the sun, yet WE can 'save it' by 
turning off a lightbulb.   I think it's mankinds insecurities driving 
this crap because people can't bear the fact that they are insignificant 
in the greater role of things... so by pretending (like any 6 year old 
does), they can believe they are of some worth.  Truth though, we are 
but a pimple on the earths ass and one day it's gonna shake us off, 
cleanse itself and the next dominant life form will  come to be.  there 
aint a thing we can do to stop it either.
Oh and another thing, the population explosion is not helping either.  
We are using more energy, making more CO2 because there are more 
people.  I wonder if the warmers will do mankind a favor and quit 
breeding like flies.  Slow down t he population growth and save the 
planet... that works.
Aaron
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4) From: miKe mcKoffee
It's not eight of the clock yet in my time zone so there, nanner nanner
nanner.
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5) From: miKe mcKoffee
And what do you think a bunch of people will be doing with all those lights
turned out! 
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6) From: Les
I switched from a 35,000 BTU roaster to a 5,000 BTU roaster.  So I have done
my part!  We try to practice reasonable conservation every day.  It is part
of good stewardship.
Les
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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7) From: Brett Mason
Hmmm - maybe that explains it....
Brett
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Les  wrote:
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8) From: Barry Luterman
Remember the big Northeast power outage about 30 years ago? As I remember
nine months latter the Maternity wards were full.Truthfully, the birth rate
spiked significantly.
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9) From: Floyd Lozano
Why do people do anything?  Why mourn the dead?  Why place a candle or
a rose on the grave of a fallen loved one?  Why stoop to pick up a
piece of trash on the street, when the wind will simply blow another
piece on by?  Why rise from bed and greet the day with a smile and
hope when in too short a time, the crushing weight of age will bear
down upon us and smash us back into the insignificant dust from which
we sprang?
We can choose to live with hope and faith, or sardonic sarcastic
cynicism, with love and joy in one's breast, or bitter blackened
heart.  Some choose to give a shit.  Some days I mock them, some days
I love them.  I'll let you know how I feel in the morning, if I am
given a tomorrow!
-F
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10) From: Ed Needham
We're pretty much the worst infestation/infection the earth has ever had.
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11) From: Brett Mason
I think turning the lights out is the cynicism....
Glad to be a beacon of HOPE...
Brett
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Floyd Lozano  wrote:
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12) From: Larry English
Funny notion of cynicism, Brett.  But I agree with Ed and Aaron - the Earth
will do just fine, thank you very much, but the human population is in
trouble, thanks to there being too many of us.  Somehow we got the idea that
unbounded growth is good, or even possible, and here we are saving a pint of
gas and a kilowatt-hour of energy in the hopes that our grandkids will have
a comfortable world in which to have more kids.  OK, let's all do our part -
it's like voting, a collective thing that only works if a whole bunch of us
do it - but let's not pretend we are "saving the earth" - if it doesn't like
what we're doing, it'll do us in.  So be it ...
There, Brett, that's cynicism ...
Larry
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13) From: Brett Mason
I am fascinated with people who think that "show" is equal to "action" -
it's not.  Turning out the lights makes it dark.
For those of you who think it is success, cut the cord.  Turn em out for
good.  Really, do it.  Go on.  Yes.
No?  So you don't think it is anything more than a symbol?  If it is only
symbolic, then it's a cynical view on our planet.  And not supported by the
facts.  But good on you - great show...
Seems just cynicism to me,
Brett
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14) From: raymanowen
A."...not eight of the clock yet in my time zone, and
B- ...what do you think a bunch of people will be doing with all those
lights turned out"
A.- Probably UCT, the Green Witch supposed to wait?
B.- They would hardly notice, with their normal head position. "Lights Out"
is undefined.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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15) From: Larry English
Could be you're right, Brett.  I guess we'd have to lump in with "lights
out" all those little ribbon do-hickies on the cars and the bumper stickers,
anything that is "only symbolic" and not direct action.  Then again, if the
little ribbon is a form of speech, then perhaps the lights-out thing is a
form of speech and everyone is just letting the rest of us know how they
feel.  Maybe.
Larry
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Brett Mason  wrote:
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16) From: Brett Mason
Larry, you're right about it being a a way of letting people know.  That's
fine.  Just telling information...
I am more troubled when it becomes trying to tell other people what they
ought to do.
"Lights Out" was one post - this thread.
  I assume it's a directive.  Everybody should LIGHTS OUT...
  If it's only information, then I wonder - are all lights on a master
switch, or were they turned out one at a time.  What if another light is
turned on - where's the information?  Reason would expect the same person to
post a new note with every light that goes on, and every light that goes
off.  It's merely information.  And they have committed to telling us all
about it.
  Information?  What about lid up, seat down, dress down, , wipe,
and flush.  That's information.  Just sharing what I am doing, for example.
Is it informative - nicey nice like?  Or is it directive, let me try to get
as many other people to do nothing in a symbolic fashion just like me?
Many notable contributors haven't shown up yet to blast the political aspect
and ask it to stop, because it fits their agenda, for example.  They'll save
that for those they disagrees with... and then they'll stand up on principle
and tout Tom's list rules.
It's the politics of manipulation without substance that gets me.
Brett
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Larry English 
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