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Topic: Iron Chef America Battle Coffee (33 msgs / 890 lines)
1) From: Gregg Talton
I just saw a commercial on the Food Network advertising Battle Coffee on
Iron Chef America Sunday Night.  One of the clips shows an Iron chef
roasting in an iron skillet.  I hope the greens came from Tom...
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2) From: Michael I
Thanks for the tip, Gregg.  I just set it to record.  The challenger is Ken
Oringer, a chef/restaurateur here in Boston (Clio, Uni, KO, Toro, La Verdad,
probably some others I don't know about).  
I'm sure all of us who watch it will be cringing as they take their roasts
too dark.
-AdkMike

3) From: raymanowen
As long as they all use the same beans, it's a roast off, kind of like the
IROC auto races are a test of driving skill.
Not the hottest cars on the track, I don't think they can even blueprint
their machines. Dunno.
I haven't seen any coffee roasters or popcorn poppers on their equipment
shelves, and they wouldn't normally have time to devote to roasting coffee.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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4) From: Tom Ulmer
The culinary integration of coffee should be interesting - especially from a
savory aspect. My opinion is that roasting is more commonly viewed as a
process step ending with a foodstuff ready for preparation rather than part
of the preparation itself. I would expect to see instant coffee as well as
ground and whole roasted beans and would be quite surprised if there were
any greens. 
Just the same, when my favorite hobby and cooking show collide it'll be
quality entertainment for me.

5) From: Stephen Carey
I have my TIVO all set.  I am looking forward to seeing this.  My 
experience is limited to an IR2 and the Behmor.  I have never tried 
just a frying pan or a hot gun and dog bowl, let alone some of the 
amazing rigs I read about on here.  I need to learn a lot more about 
coffee and the types, varieties, how it is grown, processed, all of 
it.  Then, when I am more confident - the Behmor still gets me 
nervous - I will try some of the other methods.  I would love to know 
how my grandmother or great-grandmother/father roasted their coffee.
Stephen
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6) From: Brian Kamnetz
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Stephen Carey  wrote:
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I lived in the boonies of New Mexico where it was impossible to find
decent coffee. Someone told me that the owner of a local cafe roasted,
so I gave the guy a call and he said yes, he did roast, and yes, he
would sell me roasted beans. I was picking up half a pound one day
when the lady at the counter told me that the owner roasted right out
the back door, and the equipment was still set up, and I should go out
that way and look. The guy had a large cannister of gas hooked to a
huge gas burner with an large iron skillet on it, with a stirring
stick still in the pan. I saw that set-up and thought "Hmmmm.... maybe
I can roast my own....". Shortly after I found this list (an archived
thread somewhere, topic: HG/DB), then Sweet Maria's. Before long I had
a heat gun and a Sweet Maria's sampler. Seems like a lifetime ago now.
Brian
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7) From: Sandy Andina
The Ethiopian restaurant on the corner roasts its own beans (they  
prefer Sidamo--saw the owner buying greens at Metropolis) in a flat  
earthenware pan over a charcoal burner--fresh for each pot ordered!  
(They do it out back under a range hood and then bring it to the table  
to grind and brew). Yum!
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8) From: Gregg Talton
I think it will be interesting to hear Alton Brown's take on coffee and
roasting.  Maybe we will see how much he really knows... or doesn't.
Gregg
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9) From: Vicki Smith
 From the iron chef website, it appears that a big part of this week's 
battle is the creation of beverages to accompany the meals. I have no 
idea if roasting is a big part of this or not, but it will be 
interesting to see what they do as they cook with coffee and what the 
coffee based drinks will be.http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ia/episode/0,1976,FOOD_16696_49481,00.html"Batali/Abou-Ganim vs. Gadsby/Albert
The Chairman has spiced up this competition by inviting Mixologists Tony 
Abou-Ganim and Bridget Albert to compete with the Chefs. Chef Robert 
Gadsby paired with Bridget Albert challenge Iron Chef Mario Batali 
paired with Tony Abou-Ganim. While the Chefs compete to outdo each other 
with their succulent variations, the Mixologists must prepare five 
drinks to go with each dish that also highlight the secret ingredient. 
Which team's cuisine will reign supreme?"
The coffee at Babbo, one of Batali's restaurants, was very, very good 
the one time I ate there.
vicki
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10) From: Elijah Mack
Alton Brown did a great special on coffee on how to do a great cup of coffee. He went to St Ives Coffee Roasters in GA. It has rerun on the Food Network several times. 
 
Havin Fun with the Bean
Burney
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From: Gregg Talton 
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Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Iron Chef America Battle Coffee
I think it will be interesting to hear Alton Brown's take on coffee and
roasting.  Maybe we will see how much he really knows... or doesn't.
Gregg
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11) From: Michael I
I don't think that's the one that's airing, based on what I see on the guide
on my system.  It's Cat Cora vs. Ken Oringer (the Boston chef I posted about
earlier), at least as far as I can see.
Mmm...Babbo.  Pretty much everything there is excellent -- no reason why the
coffee shouldn't be.
-AdkMike

12) From: Vicki Smith
It's the next show, running April 5, per the website. The April 6 
challenge doesn't mention beverages at all, though that is the Chef Cora 
one. I might just have to watch them both ;).
v
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13) From: Sandy Andina
I ate at B & B, Batali's (and partner Felix Bastianich's) restaurant  
in the Venetian in Las Vegas last fall; the espresso (Illy, but not  
pods) was very good indeed. I was impressed that they knew what a  
ristretto was, much less could produce a decent one.
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14) From: raymanowen
Any restaurant that has a Bastianich family member associated with it leaves
no food item to chance.
If they outsource their roasted coffee beans, I'd be surprised. That amounts
to relinquishing quality control and profits to an outsider.
That's not the Bastianich reputation. Maybe some part of the family does the
custom roasting for the restaurants, or Lydia has connections.
If I happen to see one of the TV shows, I drool. And gain a pound.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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15) From: Michael I
According to Wikipedia (so it must be true):
Episode 	Show # 	Iron Chef 	Challenger 	
8 		IA0610 	Cat Cora 	Ken Oringer 	
Challenger specialty 	      Secret Ingredient
Contemporary Euro-Asian 	Coffee Beans
That's the one that airs Sunday.
-AdkMike

16) From: Vicki Smith
The interesting part will be to see what (other than as 
showmanship)roasting has to do with any of it. As the entire time is 
only an hour, those would be some very fresh beans if they only used 
beans they roast as part of the challenge.
v
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17) From: Sandy Andina
Considering the Bastianiches are Istrian (from near Trieste) and  
Illy's HQs are in Trieste, it's actually fairly logical.  Pods and  
preground canned espresso aside, Illy's mission has long been to raise  
the bar on public perceptions of espresso and to make good beans  
available to the masses.
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18) From: Kris McN
Ok, how many of you guys yelled at the tv at least 5 times while watching
the Coffee Battle on Iron Chef?    Anyone?  Yeah, me too.  How
totally frustrating and horrifying!  From calling espresso a roast, to
pouring boiling water into the french press, to talking about "illuminating
the spectrum of bitterness" that coffee has, to Ted Allen saying that
"certain well known national coffee chains" have educated people as to the
"correct strength that coffee ought to be", and on, and on.  And frankly,
the phrase, "scallop espresso" makes me gag.  I was really hoping for
better, though the coffee filled chocolate mouse geode in the liquid
nitrogen and the coffee cotton candy were pretty cool!  And I do love
red-eye gravy!
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19) From: miKe mcKoffee
Watched it this evening during dinner. Overall I thought the combatants did
a fairly  good job utilizing coffee in their culinary creations. Though I'll
tell ya, I've seen numerous barista competitors who's specialty beverages
would have shown them some real coffee focused culinary creations! Let alone
someone attempting to offer a straight shot, the purest eccense of coffee.
(Did even see a Francis! Francis! poor excuse for an espresso machine though
didn't get used.) And indeed the comentary was largely off base. And didn't
see a single decent grinder just whirly chops. Alton definitely dropped a
couple knotches when he said unroasted greens would be less bitter. He
obviously has never chewed a green coffee bean! (Why yes I have, right off
the tree. Talk about pucker power!:-)
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20) From:
Yep, I watched it and yelled a few times as well.  Especially the thinly
veiled starbucks reference.  I must say as a former chef I enjoyed it and
found it fascinating in spite of all the coffee misinformation
david

21) From: Seth Grandeau
Did anyone catch a reference to Florida grown coffee?  They kept referring
to it as the "American" coffee (I guess Hawaii finally declared its
independence).  I was curious to know if there are growers in Florida or if
I just mis-heard what was said.
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22) From: Michael I
I definitely heard that, too Seth, and had the same thought.  But apparently
it's true (Google is your friend):http://agecon-trec.ifas.ufl.edu/documents/coffee3March28.pdfAnd the guy doing it has been on NPR, too, if you'd like to listen to him
instead:http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyIdE67794-AdkMike

23) From: Floyd Lozano
I liked the statement 'Kona is about middle of the road in terms of
bitterness'.  I for one have never tasted a bitter Kona.  I hope to
never!
-F
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24) From: Seth Grandeau
This morning I enjoyed a very non-Bitter Kowali Kona while IM'ing with
someone on my team in India.  Talk about globalization!
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25) From: Tom Ulmer
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coffee puts south Florida out of contention for commercial viability. I
believe I read somewhere later that it was most likely an attempt to harvest
investor dollars instead.

26) From: Paul Helbert
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That; or someone else who wants to try farming until the money runs out.
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Prepackaged, roasted & ground coffee,,,
One of the worst ideas since sliced bread.
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27) From: Bob
Considering the one judge who preferred "truck stop coffee", I 
was glad they did not try to create drinks.
Including/infusing coffee as a spice does give me ideas for 
future recipes though.
Bob

28) From: Tom Ulmer
Indeed! Highlighting the nastiness of burnt coffee sludge isn't part of the
culinary gamut I'd like to be involved with tasting. 
She is a renowned chef, however if I remember correctly she was the first
one knocked out of the Next Iron Chef competition.

29) From: Bill
5,000 trees yielding 15,000 pounds of beans?  That seems awfully high, but I
know absolutely nothing about coffee cultivation.  I thought that you would
get roughly a pound of beans per tree... anybody know anything about this?bill
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30) From: Mike Chester

31) From: Lynne
You have every right to be, Mike. That's another reason I thank those in the
MA Senate & Congress - they've passed some decent laws to protect the people
here.
I'm sorry your father lost his money, especially in the hands of a con
artist like that.
Lynne
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32) From: Mike Chester

33) From: Edward Bourgeois
Seems like there would be lots of problems growing coffee in Florida.
Frosts, hurricanes, bugs and harvesting would have to be done
mechanically. I don't expect to ever see a COE auction there. I heard
rumors that someone was trying it back in 2000 when I was at an
Agriculture conference in DC.
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