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Topic: Yemen Qishr (44 msgs / 1020 lines)
1) From: Les
I can't believe that I am the first to report on this different
beverage.  I have been out of state for 4 days and my new Yemens were
at home.  No reports from the group on the new coffees.  I am going to
be blunt here.  I sure would enjoy a lot more talk about coffee on
this list.  Just think, Tom went to a way out of the way place, a
dangerous place, to find us great coffee and then he brings us
something way different.  The only thing on the list is silence and
discussions about other coffee things.  It is kind of like talking
about the box that your Christmas presents come in rather than the
present.    I didn't brew it strong enough, but it is a unique.  I
would have to say it is one of the best herbal teas I have had in a
long time.  It doesn't taste like coffee!
Les
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2) From: Rick Copple
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I've got some on the way, and am eager to try it. But I figured someone 
would beat me to the punch in talking about it, and so you have! ;)
Sounds good. I like a good tea as well and I'm looking forward to it.
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3) From: Karl
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Yes, it makes a very nice herbal tea, and is surprisingly sweet (but
not cloying).   We brewed about 3 blue plastic SM  scoops worth in
about 20 oz of water for 10-15 minutes.  Does not seem to have too
much caffeine -- it's not keeping me awake... :)
It does not taste coffee-like, though the dry Qishr smells somewhat
like unroasted beans.
Delicious, and recommended!
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4) From: miKe mcKoffee
I really loved the possibility and irony of being able to offer Qishr to non
coffee tea drinkers at the Kafe. Unfortunately such limited availability:-(
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5) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 10:55 PM 4/8/2008, you wrote:
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Just ordered some last night, in part because it *is* such a unique 
opportunity (and, unlike some of the others Tom has found us, quite 
inexpensive).
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6) From: Floyd Lozano
I can't talk about what I cannot afford ;P  I will be sure to report,
if there's any left, when I can afford to bring down a few lbs of
coffee =)
-F
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7) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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Unfortunately, we couldn't get that much of it. We had figured that 
it could ship with coffee, and be listed on the manifest for the 
shipment as coffee, since it is part of the coffee fruit. It was a 
concern, but it worked out fine. I had always heard that the skin was 
more expensive than the seed in Yemen, but it wasn't really true. 
They are about the same but 1 Lb of Qishr is quite a large volume due 
to light weight. I do think it needs a lot of steeping. It's fun to 
try it out "cupping style" at first - simply add one scoop to a 
cup/bowl and pour 5-8 oz. hot, hot water over it. Most of it will 
sink and you can have a sip at 4 minutes, 6 minutes .... see how the 
flavor changes. I guarantee you that at 4 minutes it seems weak. But 
then again this is using the whole pod, whereas in Yemen they use a 
mortar and pestle to pulverize it - which probably makes it steep a 
lot faster. Like Mike, I like the irony of "a cup of coffee tea" ... 
or coffee-tea, ...
Tom
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8) From: Dean De Crisce
I also am awaiting a shipment of some yemens, including the tea...harrar and IMV. I ordered around ten pounds total. I am excited to get it and am also awaiting my replacement behmor.
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9) From: Coffee
OK, I just ordered some... and a pound each of the yemen coffees too.
-Peter
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10) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_Th=F8gersen?=
Hi,
I did actually post a question of wich of the Yemens to choose, since I am 
probably going to get a 5 pounder and a 2 pounder in my next international 
flatrate box.
Claus

11) From: Sheila Quinn
I'm planning on adding it to my next order. Thanks for the report!
Sheila
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12) From: Bill
I went ahead and ordered 2 pounders of each of the new Yemen coffees, as
well as the tea.  It arrived today, and I'm gonna brew some up tonight.  I'm
pretty excited about it!  I think I'm gonna roast tonight, but it's gonna be
aged sumatra and mandheling, no yemenis this time around... well, maybe one!
 we'll see...bill
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13) From: Les
I had round two of the Qishr this afternoon.  I tried grinding it in
the Mazzer Major.  It didn't do too well.  Next round will be ground
in the Zass set at a coarse setting too.  However ground and infused
for 4 minutes per Tom's instructions and getting the particle size
smaller has brought out more flavor!  This is good stuff!  I hope Tom
can get more.  Since I don't drink coffee past noon, it is nice to
have a coffee drink that I can enjoy!
Les
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14) From: Bill
A whirly-blade would probably work really well, as people use them as spice
grinders all the time...  i gotta unpack my shipment and then get me some!!!
 thanks for the info Les!bill
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15) From: Rick Copple
Claus Thøgersen wrote:
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I'm getting 2 lbs of Yemen Mokha Mattari, and 2 lbs of Yemen Mokha =
Sana'ani. All I did was read the descriptions and make my decisions =
based on the ones I thought I would like the flavors of the best.
But I rarely order 5# of something I've not tried before. Probably done =
it just once to twice. Sometimes that means I only get a couple pounds =
of a bean if it is real popular and it runs out before I have a chance =
to place an order, but that rarely has happened. So, if you limit is =
seven pounds, maybe try three two pounds of the ones you think you'll =
like the best and one pound of the other? Then if one of them blows your =
socks off, go get another 5 or 10#s.
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16) From: Darliene Stanhope
I just brewed some for my coworkers this afternoon.  Every one really liked
it, they wanted to know where they could order some.  Of course I told them
Sweet Marias.  My impression of this was that it is an excellent herbal tea,
I did taste the rose hips and ginger.  I also tasted a sasparilla flavor as
the cup cooled.
Darliene
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17) From: Bill
I used 22 g for a 16 oz FP, but I ground it in my bodum whirly-blade first.
 Pounded it into some small chunks, some still pretty big.  Steeped for 5
minutes.  Nice and sweet, wow, that's a nice cup of tea.  Will go with about
35 or 40 g tomorrow to see how that tastes.
Thanks Tom for a wonderful new coffee experience!
bill
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18) From: Elliott H. O'Reilly
I haven't had time to post anything yet because Brown just delivered my 36lb
package today with all the new Yemen's including the tea and a couple of
other coffees.  It will probably be next week before I roast, rest and
sample any of the new Yemens.  I may get to the tea sooner.
Elliott

19) From: Bernard Gerrard
An interesting beverage.  I did not detect "ginger" and I am a ginger 
junkie.  Personally I think an improvement would be a  bit of lemon to 
"brighten" it up a bit.  Bernard C. Gerrard
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20) From: Bob
My wife thought pumpkin seed/shells and a coworker said peanut
husks.
An interesting drink for sure. A touch of lemon &/or honey may
be next.
Bob

21) From: Dustin Fluke
I tried some tonight, just straight out of the bag and into some water. 
I did two blue scoops for 10oz of water. I let it sit for maybe five 
minutes. It wasn't very strong, so I think a blade "grinder" would be a 
nice touch. I spotted a few green coffee beans in my bag too.
Overall I really liked it. I'm not a huge tea drinker, but the tea geeks 
at the workplace are going to get to try it tomorrow when I take some 
in. I really liked the fragrance as well.
I think I'm going to grind it really fine and brew strong to try a good 
iced tea with it and see how it turns out in the next couple of days.
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22) From: Andy Thomas
I'm not a tea drinker either, but I have enjoyed qishr. I don't quite get the ginger and rose hips that Tom described, though. Les said it doesn't taste like coffee, but I think the fruitiness is very similar to the fruitiness of Yemen coffee. [Coincidence? I don't think so... :-)]
I have given some to a few of my tea-drinking friends, but I haven't gotten a reaction yet.
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I tried some tonight, just straight out of the bag and into some water. 
I did two blue scoops for 10oz of water. I let it sit for maybe five 
minutes. It wasn't very strong, so I think a blade "grinder" would be a 
nice touch. I spotted a few green coffee beans in my bag too.
Overall I really liked it. I'm not a huge tea drinker, but the tea geeks 
at the workplace are going to get to try it tomorrow when I take some 
in. I really liked the fragrance as well.
I think I'm going to grind it really fine and brew strong to try a good 
iced tea with it and see how it turns out in the next couple of days.
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23) From: John Brown
i like it but  also add some strong black tea.  my mix is two scoops 
Qusir  to one scoop black tea
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24) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Do you think it's something you would want to keep around, for guests 
etc, or just a one-time thing to try. I wasn't sure what people would 
think. I do enjoy it, and it's interesting to try grinding it (yes, a 
blande grinder is ideal) or to make the Yemen Ginger Tea recipe. But 
I am not sure I would drink it that often because, well, I like 
coffee! The reason I ask is that the exporter in Yemen than prepared 
this might be able to get more, and we are almost out of the initial 
lot we bought. I am convinced this exporter sold us the top quality, 
especially based on other web comments from other sources (not that 
there are any, actually, but friends who brought it back from Yemen 
or ethiopia usually) and people report musty or even moldy flavor. I 
did not get that at all in the lot we have here. Rustic yes, not 
musty.
tom
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25) From: Darliene Stanhope
My co-workers loved it (some are big tea drinkers) and wanted to know where
they could get more.  I would like to keep some around for myself and any
guests that may want to try it.
Darliene
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26) From: Jim Gundlach
I haven't ordered any yet but I hope to.  I had just violated the  
stash limitation with an 18 pound order before the Yemen's came in.   
 From what I hear, I would like to keep some around for people who do  
not like coffee but that I could offer them that was rather unique to  
try.
     pecan jim
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27) From: Andy Thomas
I feel the same way, Tom, -- that is, I'd usually rather have coffee. But I've been drinking qishr in the afternoon at work when I'd rather not have caffiene, and find it very pleasant -- no musty flavors at all. Haven't tried grinding or blending yet. I would probably buy some from time to time, but not enough to keep you in business by myself!
Andy
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Do you think it's something you would want to keep around, for guests 
etc, or just a one-time thing to try. I wasn't sure what people would 
think. I do enjoy it, and it's interesting to try grinding it (yes, a 
blande grinder is ideal) or to make the Yemen Ginger Tea recipe. But 
I am not sure I would drink it that often because, well, I like 
coffee! The reason I ask is that the exporter in Yemen than prepared 
this might be able to get more, and we are almost out of the initial 
lot we bought. I am convinced this exporter sold us the top quality, 
especially based on other web comments from other sources (not that 
there are any, actually, but friends who brought it back from Yemen 
or ethiopia usually) and people report musty or even moldy flavor. I 
did not get that at all in the lot we have here. Rustic yes, not 
musty.
tom
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28) From: John Brown
i like and everybody i have brewed it for has liked it.  so i would like 
to buy some more.  i would wait to buy till the CR comes in.
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29) From: Coffee
I like it, it's a worthwhile experience, but I'm not a tea drinker and  
I would probably not keep it around. I'm very appreciative on having  
the opportunity to try it though. The first time I made it in a french  
press, which limited how dark it got. I found that just having it sit  
in the cup it eventually (10 minutes or more) gets really good. I fear  
though that it might give me a headache. The last couple of times I've  
tried it, I've ended up with a headache about an hour later -- could  
be coincidence, though I find that chamomile gives me a headache too,  
which is odd because chamomile is supposed to be a headache remedy.
-Peter
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30) From: Paul Helbert
My whole family drinks hot drinks on winter nights. (I only recently
discovered your good drinkable decaf coffees). We probably have as
many different teas in that stash as I have coffees and would like to
have this one available from time to time.  My wife likes it. I have
not tried it yet.
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Paul Helbert
Prepackaged, roasted & ground coffee,,,
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31) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Thanks for all the feedback . I have received a sample from a grower 
we work with in el salvador and it was really different from the 
Yemeni qishr, brighter, with tamarind flavor. I am trying to see if 
shee can produce some for us too, but as you know there isn't much 
dry-processed coffee done in Central America, and no tradition of 
saving the dried skins of the coffee fruit for tea.
tom
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32) From: Dean De Crisce
I would order more. I liked it and so did my tea only drinking wife. I can justify drinking tea because it came from coffee
Dean De Crisce
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33) From: Les
Yes,
I like it.  My wife likes it.  Guests have liked it.
Les
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34) From: Bill
Tom,
I have enjoyed having the Qishr around, but probably more for the novelty or
uniqueness of serving a coffee tea.  I wouldn't drink this by myself, I'd
drink coffee!!  But if you routinely had it on your list, I would probably
routinely buy it for people who are interested in it...  As someone else
said, probably not enough to keep you in business.  I likely would buy about
1 pound per year, maybe 2, but not more.
I really appreciate you making it available for us.  It is very interesting
and a lot of fun to serve to people.  I have preferred it as an infusion,
just dumping a lot of husks in a cup and pouring hot water in.  I have found
that I prefer it steeping for over 20 minutes, and it's awesome in glass
mugs where you can see the husks sitting in the water.  the green beans in a
few of the husks is really cool.
So thanks again for offering it, it's definitely a necessary part of my
coffee education!
bill
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35) From: Dean De Crisce
By the way...would there be any negative consequences to grinding the Qishr in a Rocky (that is...any possible harm to the Rocky burrs)?
Dean De Crisce
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36) From: Jamie Dolan
If it's available I would also buy more of the same tea next time we
order.  I would try the new kind as well if you get it.
Jamie
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37) From: Eddie Dove
Since it is coffee related, I just had to order some even thought I am
not a tea drinker.
Not wanting a cup of coffee this evening because I drank an entire pot
of the Yemen Mokha Sharasi today (YUM!), I ripped and crumpled some
into a cup and poured in the water.  The phone rang (someone wanting a
couple pounds of coffee) and I forgot about it.  My wife walks through
and just asks, "What's this?"
I drank some and was quite surprised!  It was sweet and I really liked
it.  I gave her the cup, and she acted surprised that I would have
sweetened it; she liked it too. My son wouldn't be denied and he liked
it too.  Poured in more hot water and now I have another cup.
I bet for the south, this would make a nice "sweet tea."
This is really good stuff and we would actually like to keep some around!
Eddie
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38) From: John Despres
I just ordered some of the Qishr along with a few coffees to rebuild my =
dwindling stash.
Here's the thing - two points. Point # 1: I have taken the CSA pledge =
and do not drink "production coffee", host coffee or other coffees that =
are not fresh roasted or sitting in my cupboard. That said, I find =
myself in coffee shops or restaurants every now and then for meetings or =
pleasure. Wherever possible, I fill my hot drink needs with a cup of =
tea. Maybe a chai. I do enjoy a cup of tea now and then. But not at home.
Point # 2: My lovely wife is a tea drinker to the extreme, but she also =
enjoys my coffee and occasionally drives me to distraction by bringing =
home a cup of *$. Anyway, we have had a remarkable tea stash in the =
house since we were married & set up house together. These teas are =
every bit as good as any coffee Tom sells. Since I began home roasting, =
I seldom drink tea at home.
Now there's this Qishr and I may have a tea to drink at home since it's =
coffee tea. It appears it is quite good from all the reviews it has =
received here, I think I will enjoy it very much and will keep it in the =
house for all three of us since Nicolas is a tea drinker, too.
As long as there's coffee tea, I'll probably be ordering it. And =
drinking it. And liking it.
John
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39) From: Rick Copple
To add to the list, I too would hope to have some around, and if you 
purchased new ones, I would certainly try those.
I do like a cup of tea occasionally, and have bought some teas from here 
and there. I have a good friend who runs a bookstore, and he specializes 
in teas, and I've gotten a few from him.
My wife and kids drink a lot of tea, but mostly store-bought bags. But 
they do try my other teas when I make a big picture of it. Mostly I 
drink coffee, but a hot cup of tea in the evenings often hits the spot, 
as I usually drink coffee all day long, so it makes for a good change of 
pace.
All that to say, I would continue to buy this Yemen tea and try new ones 
as well. Can't guestimate exactly how much, I still have most of what I 
bought of the Yemen. Based on the response you've gotten, however, seems 
like you would be able to sell more lots of it without a problem. :)
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40) From: Steven Van Dyke
Add me to the list of those who'll buy more Qishr and any others you 
come up with.
One of the nice things about it is that it keeps better than roasted 
coffee so it's easier to keep some in my briefcase.
Easy to make a cup at work, *MUCH* better than the 'coffee' available 
there and a nice treat.
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41) From:
I think I would like to continue to see it as a seasonal thing.
I'm not sure how it keeps but I don't see me needing to order a bunch more right away just because I ran out.
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42) From: John Brown
if you grind it to abut half the original size it will brew quicker as well
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43) From: dfluke
ooh! Tamarind sounds nice. I would definitely buy some.
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44) From: John Despres
I vote yes, keep it coming.
I'm just enjoying a cup now. It certainly isn't your average cup of tea, =
but I like it a lot and will order more. Now to roast a bit and dig out =
the old blade grinder to try that as well.
Thanks, Tom, this is delicious.
John
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