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Topic: what kind of breadmachine? (15 msgs / 276 lines)
1) From: Bill
Hello fellow HG roasters!  I enjoy stirring the beans, but I can only really
do about 3 roasts before getting tired.  I'm thinking about trying out a
breadmaker to stir the beans.  I've talked to a couple of thrift store
owners, who say that they actually don't even put breadmachines on the
shelves because no one wants them.  But if I were to give them a list of
things that I'm looking for/avoiding in a breadmachine, they'd probably find
one for me...
So I looked at the archives and saw a few things.  Tell me what I'm missing.
I want an all-metal housing for the stirring paddle.
A dough cycle that lasts 20 minutes, preferably without pulsing.
I remember reading something about teflon, but I don't remember what was
said.  Is there a certain type of pan that I do/don't want?
Thanks for any help and advice!
bill
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2) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
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Vicki http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00067REBU- and I'm very happy with it!">http://coffeecrone.com/)pointed me to this one - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00067REBU- and I'm very happy with it!
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3) From: Rich
Have you tried using a whisk to stir th beans?  Takes much less effort 
that a spoon or other kitchen tool.
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4) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Nice Idea I'm gonna try that! 
Thanks Rich!
Dennis

5) From: Bill
Rich, yes have used a whisk.  Still thinking BM is a way for me to go...
 but thanks for the advice!bill
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6) From: Bill
Pat,
Thanks for directing me to Vicki's site.  I had read it before, but skipped
over the BM parts.  So there's lots of good info there.  Question for you
about that Sunbeam:  does it have a teflon pan?  says something about
non-stick, so I'm curious...
thanks
bill
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7) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
Bill wrote:
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Bill,
    In all honesty, I'm not sure if there's teflon on there or something 
else.  If it *was* teflon, I think it's pretty much been roasted off by 
now on mine. :)  As for the possible risk ... I'm off the school of 
thought that I am roasting outdoors, the top of the BM is open while i'm 
roasting, hot air rises ... any volatiles are going to be (and have been 
after all the use mine has seen) blown away on the wind. :)
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8) From: raymanowen
The motor alone is powerful enough to drive the kneading/ mixing paddle for
a 1 - 2 pound dough ball. And the PSC motor can even operate at different
speeds, just like the identical ceiling fan motors.
In the Dough cycle, the mixing is intermittent to properly mix the
ingredients without overworking the wheat gluten. (Compare a chewy bagel to
a slice of bread.)
Sometimes, the cycle ended for me because I misdirected the heat gun- away
from the coffee beans, but into the cavity in the BM for the pan. Some Drop
Dead sensor told the machine it must be baking, so quit with the kneading of
the loaf.
The motor with its capacitor is both reversible and variable speed. The
Gilmer belt and sheaves are non- slip, so the motor could find wide
application in all kinds of roasting set-ups. Even a machine with a poor
paddle design for roasting has to have a veritable brat for a motor.
On this side of the tracks, the bread machines sure don't stay long in the
thrift stores, let me tell you. Make a deal with them to be their self-
serving bread machine dumpster, and don't forget the dynamite bread loaf you
can bake.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Bill  wrote:
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9) From: Rich
The Teflon that produced the hazardous fumes when overheated was the 
Teflon used on the first generation pans.  They were produced in the 
late 50s and have not been made with Teflon-I for years.  These were the 
first generation pots and pans.  The present coating is a high 
temperature coating, the original was not.
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10) From: deerslammer
I have one made by wellbilt it looks like r2d2 from star wars. its built like a tank and i see them often at thrift stores. think i paid $5 for mine. of course i have a backup and a backup for the backup.
?? dave
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11) From: Vicki Smith
My feelings are mixed about it. If one goes into 2nd crack, the temps 
(of the beans) are in the range that might give one pause. That being 
said, I hold my HG vertically aiming directly into the bean mass. I do 
not heat the sides of the pan with the blast coming out of the heat gun, 
and I tend to think that most of the heat is dissipated as it goes into 
the beans. To my very unscientific mind, the question that then remains 
is if the hot beans flinging about the pan actually raises the temp of 
the coated metal enough to be problematic.
Even the new coatings off gas and while the big-big problem with Teflon 
1 are history, there remains some controversy regarding other compounds 
and the newer coatings. See: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_275/ai_n16675806Vicki
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12) From: Bill
So Vicki, the question that is still in my mind: are all bread machines
gonna come with a nonstick teflon coating, or are there some that don't?  do
you have one that has a teflon coating on it?  I appreciate the input!bill
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Vicki Smith  wrote:
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13) From: Vicki Smith
All machines seem to come with a non-stick coating. My Sunbeam does not 
mention a brand a la Teflon or Silverstone. If you wanted to, you could 
take it to almost any machine shop and they could remove the coating. I 
don't feel the need to do that.
v
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14) From: Bob
Bill,
My $.02, to beat a dead horse, you could use a wire brush 
attachment to an electric drill and scour it out too.
The Welbilt I picked up at Goodwill for $5 has worked great for 
easily over 200# ~ I removed the lid, castrated the thermal 
devices inside and set it to manual and it runs for at least 40 
minutes on the digital clock before it shuts off ~ enough for 
three seperate roasts.
Bob

15) From: Bill
Thanks to all who responded!  I'll keep my eyes open for a breadmachine at
local thrift stores, and we'll see what I see...  I'm kinda excited about
not having a tired arm after roasting!  thanks again!bill
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