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Topic: Stalled VP (13 msgs / 267 lines)
1) From: Bob Glasscock
Don't know whether to give myself a Darwin Award or the Rube Goldberg for
this morning's VP brew with Cory glass rod. My very first brew today was
very good. Set the Maestro Plus to 25 and brewed (Tom's Roastmaster's
Choice) using the Yama cloth filter - very nice. Then decided to try the
same formula with the glass rod. STALLED. Ended up trying to salvage the
brew by pouring through a Melita filter until I could wiggle the glass rod
enough to get the rest of the brew to descend without getting scalded. Kinda
leggy, that one. Question is how much coarser does the grind need to be to
prevent this?
Bob G.
(obviously a newbie)
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2) From: miKe mcKoffee
Question isn't necessarily how coarse to grind, question is and how old are
the burrs? See just hit the List (once again) thread on Rocky burr
replacement and dramatic effects. With burrs the size of the Maestro if more
than 50# past time to replace for optimal grind results.
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3) From: Rich Adams

4) From: Bob Glasscock
Brand new out of the box, Mike. In reflecting, it is an academic question,
as only experimentation will ultimately yield the correct result. Just
thought there might be a WAG "formula".
Bob.
Question isn't necessarily how coarse to grind, question is and how old are
the burrs? See just hit the List (once again) thread on Rocky burr
replacement and dramatic effects. With burrs the size of the Maestro if more
than 50# past time to replace for optimal grind results.
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5) From: Rich Adams
The "formula" is to grind finer and finer until you stall or produce 
unwanted sediment, then back off.
Rich Adams

6) From: Brett Mason
Or grind coarser and coarser, until you find the sweetness that is in fresh
brew....  That's how I like it - Contrarian Coffee...
Your stall is because of the fines that are pugging the southbound river....
Brett
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Rich Adams  wrote:
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7) From: Dean
For mine it's not about "how coarse" but about excess fines--my cheapo 
grinder can stall my Bodum at will, while the Mazzer works ok.
Difference is how much dust rinses down and plugs up around the rod.
Dean
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8) From: Bob Glasscock
Gotcha! Thanks, Rich.
Bob G.

9) From: Barry Luterman
Another hint with the glass rod.Keep your heat down. You don't want the rod
blowing too forcefully out of it's seat when the final bit of water goes
North. If it comes up too violently some grinds might get under the glass
stopper and cause a stall. Use low heat after you stir. I stir when 2 cups
have gone North and 4 cups are still South.
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Bob Glasscock 
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10) From: Paul Helbert
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Barry Luterman  wrote:
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What follows is not just a harangue, I hope, but something to share:
Please use up for up and down for down. Too many folks are confused by
seeing North at the top of a (poorly oriented) wall map. Even the US
National Park Service has been guilty of this when they stated on a sign
along the New River that it was unusual for a river to flow North. I wish
I'd written the following website (as this is a pet peeve of mine). Okay,
going on decaf for the rest of the day:http://www.geocities.com/loisnotlane/rivers.htmlEnjoy ;-)
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Prepackaged, roasted & ground coffee,,,
Some of the worst ideas since sliced bread.
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11) From: Brett Mason
Interesting.  But Barry's on the money - when the water goes North, full
force can cause you problems.  And when it runs South, if there are too many
fines, you'll get a stall...
NESW...  If I am in the Southern Hemisphere, and my vacpot is pushing water
up, wouldn't that be down relative to the northern hemisphere?
Let's be precise.  Nothing less will do....
Brett
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12) From: Barry Luterman
Only if you live West of me then it's tomorrow.
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13) From: Bob Glasscock
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Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Stalled VP
Or grind coarser and coarser, until you find the sweetness that is in fresh
brew....  That's how I like it - Contrarian Coffee...
Your stall is because of the fines that are pugging the southbound river....
Brett
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