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Topic: Whirley Pop roasting trick (6 msgs / 172 lines)
1) From: sci
I haven't heard of many whirley pop users on this list. It does a 1lb batch
very nicely. Granted, results from roast to roast vary slightly. That hasn't
been a big problem. However, I did let one batch go from c+ to FC+ too fast.
Second crack just started and I abruptly ended the roast.
Here's a tip that I got from a friend of mine who uses WP too. I've tried it
and it is pretty cool, and it is something most other roasting platforms
can't do.
When you get to C or C+ quickly pour out half of the beans into a colander
and point a fan at it and agitate occasionally. Meanwhile, continue roasting
the other half to FC or beyond. This is an easy way to get two roasts of one
bean in one batch.
I've been doing this on a gas stove and finishing up my C+ roasts at a nice
steady ramp up to 15 minutes; FC up to 18 minutes. Of course, one could do a
three way roast C, FC, and Vienna, but I haven't tried yet. I haven't done
over a lb. but I think 1.5lb would work.
Ivan
PS: Oh yea, I forgot to say, you'll need to use your third hand to do this
method! That's not a problem for most homeroasters.
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2) From: miKe mcKoffee
"something most other roasting platforms can't do"
FWIW it would be even easier to do on a commercial drum platform. You'd
simply briefly open then close the drum dump door with cooling fan and bean
stir already running. On at least some commercial Sivetz air roasters could
do similar. Now wondering if opening and closing the CCR HotTop dump door
would allow roast to continue (in manual mode of course.) I'll play with it
some time and see. Might not work since dump is electronically initiated on
the HT which I believe simultaneously signals to the roaster's logic roast
is ended. Let's see mod'd Caffe' Rosto just kill power, take off lid and
poor some out, power on & continue roast with fan dialed back to compensate
for lighter load. Modified electric Popper same. Wok, duh piece of cake to
dump part of roast and continue. HG/DB duh again. HG/BM probably.
So seems a bunch of roasting platforms could easily split roast finish.
Behmor no. IR I believe no. Gene, unsure. Grill/Drum, doubt it in most cases
but believe a couple people's drum designs could.
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3) From: Floyd Lozano
This is not possible on the single bean roaster.
-F
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:25 AM, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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4) From: JanoMac
Reagarding "split roasts"...
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Oh, but it is possible. With a little practice, you can get 2 nice roasts.
1. At your first roast level, stop the heat source  and
2. with a gloved hand grasp the bean
3. QUICKLY (don't want too much cooling at this stage) remove bean from
spindle; 
3. Using an 80-tooth-per-inch jeweler's saw cut off approximately 1/2 of the
bean
4. Quickly reattach the remaining portion of the bean to the spindle,
5. re-light the heat source
6. Continue roasting to next desired level.
I have been able to get 2 levels to make a melange. Remember since the outer
covering is half gone, the now exposed inner cell mass of the remaining
portion of the bean will result in more heat penetration  and penetration
will take place more quickly! Adjust the ramp back up to full heat
accordingly. Don't over-roast the second half!
Enjoying my coffee one beqn at a time,
Kirk
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5) From: Paul Helbert
Good suggestion although I would smoke up the kitchen by doing those partial
dumps. I always have to run outside for cooling with the WhirleyPop. I envy
your long slow gas range control. I have a hard time keeping under ten or
twelve minutes on the electric range. Most of my WhirleyPop roasts have been
very good, with a degree of complexity from unevenness, which I like. I
tried a much smaller load recently which went too hot too fast (FC+ in 4
min.). Half pound to full pound roasts do quite well.
-- 
Paul Helbert
Prepackaged, roasted & ground coffee,,,
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6) From: sci
Well you're right as usual Mike. I'll have to be more precise than "most"
when I speak to you, which meant most of the platforms people discuss and
use here, certainly not all platforms. These are the platforms most people
use, or at least on this list it seems. As for the commercial roaster, well
most of us could only dream about that. We're homeroasters. But such a
roaster is like the $4.5M house I worked in last fall: even if somebody gave
me such a house, I couldn't afford to turn it on or pay the property taxes;
same with a commercial roaster, you have to be able to use lots of coffee
and have a 10lb batch to justify firing it up.
The split batch idea works great if you have a method that allows it. I find
that the WP works well at this, very easy, very affordable, but I'd only
recommend it if you have a gas burner.  I have IR2 and it definitely won't
split roasts. As for HG/DB/BM method, I can't get enough heat out to do a
full lb, i.e., enough beans to split. Ditto with AirPooper. The wok would be
equally as easy as the WP. My wok roasts come out very uneven--one side of
the bean more roasted than the other. I can't really manage a wok roast with
a full pound.
I split a batch in WP with both the Yemeni Shirasi and Ismaili at C and FC
and the melanges tastes great.
Some platforms excel at some things and are weak on others which is why we
all probably experiment with several. If ya'll want to do full pound split
roasts, WP works well. Of course, you could just do two separate roasts on
"most" platforms, but this cuts time in half, especially doing a triple
split to experiment with roast degree.
Ivan
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