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Topic: USRC is a bit boring > Behmor recommendations from (5 msgs / 155 lines)
1) From: miKe mcKoffee
"...USRC is a bit boring,..." For some reason that struck me as hilarious:-)
I mean, for years the common complaint with many home roasters is they can't
get consistent results. Indeed boring in the sense if you roast the same
bean same batch size with the same charge pre-heat, same valve and air-flow
settings at any given time for the same length of time, you'll get the same
roast result.  Change one of the variables and you'll get a different
result, consistently the same different result! Ho-hum, repeatable
changeable consistency. Yes, a terrible thing:-)
OTOH for the price of a 3k USRC (withoug profile automation controls)
someone could get around 30 Behmors! OTOH IF you could load and run all 30
Behmors at once attempting to roast 30LB of the same bean the same way good
luck...I wanna watch you running around like a chicken with it's head cut
off, film at eleven, now that would be hilarious! True it would take about
an hour and a half doing 4 batches with the USRC 3k...
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2) From: Les
It is a nice problem to have!  "A bit boring."  On the other hand, Mike, I
think you would wear out 300 Behmors before the USRC was just hitting its
adolescences!    I just love having 4 proven profiles now, and the beans are
roasted so uniform they look like I have hit them with my spray gun with
various shades of brown.  I am so spoiled.
Les
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3) From: Edward Bourgeois
Peaceful roasting is what I like about having controls.
Ed
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Les  wrote:
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4) From: Alchemist John
Yes, that is true.  There is not hopping around, twiddling, tweaking 
etc.  It's quite restful and relaxing to roast with good controls.
It is quite interesting watching Les roast with his USRC.  There were 
subtle differences, but it was stunning how close our controls are 
and how we apply them comparing his USRC gas fired tank to my Zen II 
electric roaster.  Near full power to pre-heat, high end of power to 
start the roast, nearly 1/3 power coming into 1st with an increase in 
venting to pull the momentum off the roast.  It's like watching 
evolution occur in two isolated groups.  They both start with a 
concept (original species), progress isolated but under similar 
conditions, and end up looking totally different but with effectively 
the same basic mechanisms and abilities.
As for boring, I often show people how I roast any more mostly 
because it is so damn uneventful.  I love watching the roast, the 
patterns of the cascading beans, the rhythmic shoosh,shoosh,shoosh 
but it just isn't 'exciting'.  You don't DO anything.  But hey, I 
like it.  Almost meditative.
The one thing Les' roaster did show me is that I want one more tweak 
on my Zen II.  I want a small draw fan.  Propping open the top hatch 
works ok for increased venting, but it causes smoke.  With an actual 
draw fan, the exhaust air is cool enough by the time it reaches 
atmosphere, no smoke is produced.
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5) From: miKe mcKoffee
Just think how 'boring' having automated profile control would be! Oh sure
watching and every 30 seconds manually logging bean mass target temp, actual
environment and bean mass temps, valve and fan settings while periodically
glancing at the bean viewing window or pulling beans with the tryer for a
wiff and glance. (I'm pretty sure my system records that stuff like every
second but haven't taken the time to figure out how to retrieve and use the
data yet:-) Besides by manually tracking and recording I real time see any
profile stages that need work and jot notes, sometimes switching to manual
roasting if seeing a problem coming. Or sometimes not writing anything and
busy doing something else like labeling and/or filling bags with a previous
batch or editing a profile. (Can only totally ignore a couple automated
profiles so far, ones tried and true for a given bean/batch size.) Recently
switched from doing 20LB greens in 6 roasts for an Ohana "batch" to 40LB in
7 roasts. So now doing two 8 pound roasts of one bean the other 5 beans
doubled their batch sizes to 4,4,4,6,6LB which meant new profile settings.
Since been tweaking roast profiles, both for Ohana blend and SO, decided
last Thursday's roast session to add 1.3LB to 3 of those 5 Ohana batches
making them 5.3, 7.3 & 7.3LB greens to pull 2 .5LB bags for shelf meaning
further profiling tweaking! 
Those visiting for PNWG VI will be able to experience how 'boring' it can
be:-)
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