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Topic: Zelco Brisk Brew Travel Coffeemaker (30 msgs / 626 lines)
1) From: Coffee
Hi,
On a whim I bought a Zelco BriskBrew Travel Coffeemaker. It's a 1 cup  
travel coffee maker. Physically it's remarkably small. When packed up,  
it's 2.5" x 3.5" x 6.25". Since it brews 8 ounces, I tried it with  
11.6 grams of PMK ground at my normal filter drip setting. It has a  
small nylon? and plastic filter basket that measures about 3/4" x  
1.75" x 2" and the 11.6 grams filled it more than 3/4th full. Brewing  
is quite slow taking more than 5 minutes to brew a 8 ounce cup. The  
water out of the brew head is about 185-190. The brewing comes in  
small spurts, so it was difficult to get an accurate measurement of  
the temp. After brewing the coffee in the filter basket had expanded  
to fill it and force grounds out around the edges. The coffee was  
pretty strong and a touch bitter. Didn't really taste like Kona.  
Perhaps over extracted due to the long brew time? Next time I'm going  
to try a bit less coffee and a courser grind to see what effect that  
has ... or maybe I'll just change one variable at a time ;-)
-Peter
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2) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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Thanks for the review. I was curious about this brewer too. Let us 
know if you find any tweaks to get a decent cup out of it. I have 
been looking at some other manual travel brewers that are geared 
toward tea but might work for coffee. No good results though ... 
nothing that beats an aeropress at least...
tom
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3) From: stereoplegic
i bought a car (12v) coffeemaker and got much better results running 
water through it once before actually brewing (preheating), as many Mr. 
Coffee users have reported doing. not sure what temps i actually 
achieved, just know my cups were much better using this approach. if it 
still takes 5 min using preheated water, try grinding coarser.
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4) From: Coffee
It's taking 5 minutes (actually I timed it and it is 6.5 minutes.)  
It's just slow. It starts brewing quickly (15-20 seconds) but the  
water just dribbles out in spurts. The first cup I made was actually  
the second cup as I ran a cup of water w/o coffee the first time.
For my second batch through the brewer I dropped it down to 10 grams.  
The coffee came out much better this time. The grounds still  
overflowed the filter basket getting some grounds into the cup. It  
actually tasted like Kona this time. It was not bitter 'til the end of  
the cup, probably due to the grounds that escaped the filter basket.  
It is still a very dark cup of coffee, so perhaps I can drop the dose  
a little more.
-Peter
On Apr 27, 2008, at 8:38 AM, stereoplegic wrote:
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5) From: Coffee
Round 3:
This time I tried 9 grams of coffee. The last batch was the last of my  
KPM, so this time I used IMV. My normal filter drip grind. First off,  
this made a respectable cup of coffee. The grounds still overflowed  
the filter basket so there were still grounds in the bottom of cup,  
but there was no bitter flavor, so I guess the last two batches where  
I attributed the bitter to the grounds was wrong. The other too must  
have just been too much coffee. This cup had great body and the flavor  
emphasized the deeper notes of the IMV, but the higher ones were there  
too. I'm still using paper filters in my normal drip pot, so it tends  
to mute the deeper notes and highlight the high ones.
As of this cup I'm pretty impressed with this little coffee maker. It  
actually made a good cup of coffee and it's very economical with the  
coffee only 9 grams for a 8 oz cup of coffee. I'm going to try one  
with 8 grams to see if I can keep the coffee in the filter. Could be  
that home-roasted coffee just blooms too much for it.
An AP with an immersion heater to heat the water would produce a  
better cup, but this is more compact, totally self-contained and more  
economical with the coffee.
-Peter
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6) From: Coffee
Round 4:
This time I tried 8 grams of coffee to try to get rid of the grounds  
in the cup and to see how efficient this thing made coffee. Well, I  
still had grounds and the coffee was too thin, 9 grams was better.  
Since it looks like I'm not going to be able to get rid of the grounds  
in the cup, I'll stick with 9 or 10 grams. It was still a better cup  
than you would ever get in one of those in-hotel-room coffee makers.
When you spend several hundred dollars per night for a hotel  
room, you'd think you could get good coffee rather than some generic  
thing labeled "Colombian". Seriously, it would be better if they  
didn't even offer it.
The AP definitely makes a better cup of coffee. But it is bulkier and  
you have to come up with a way to heat the water, like an immersion  
heater. The Zelco makes a good cup of coffee and is self contained and  
compact. But it's slower and is a messier cleanup.
I guess plan C could be bring the appropriately sized filter and use  
you own coffee in the in-room coffee maker...
-Peter
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7) From: Frank Parth
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It took years for the hotel industry to finally listen to all the travellers who said they wanted a cup of coffee 
firstthing in the morning. When they finally started listening, they went the cheapest way possible. Hotel room coffee 
is either those awful pod things or, just as bad, Folger's instant (which is what I have in my room right now).
Three weeks ago I was in a very nice Marriott Hotel in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. I came prepared, I thought. I pre-ground 
enough Harrar Horse to last me for the few days I was going to be there. Only to find that the hotel had no in-room 
water heater and would not provide one (they claimed fire restrictions). By the time I got home my wonderful Harrar 
couldonly be thrown out.
I'm in Dubai now and at least the Holiday Inn has a water heater. I have a small steel press pot and can at least make 
decent coffee in the morning. I've tried the AeroPress but can't seem to get the hang of it. Even the coffee providedby 
the caterer for the classes I teach makes coffee using Folger's instant. Bleeech.
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8) From: Allon Stern
On May 3, 2008, at 10:35 PM, Frank Parth wrote:
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I spent the night at a hotel after a gig at the WV scottish festival.
I pulled out the AP and, since there were no in-room coffee makers at  
this inexpensive hotel (Microtel), we went down to the lobby, and I  
made me and a couple of bandmates (well, I'm sound man, but  
practically part of the band) a couple cups of Sumatra decaf, using  
the hot water tap on the coffee maker they had there.
The night manager was a little intrigued, so I pressed him a cup of  
Brazil Daterra Yellow Bourbon.
He ended up on SM's website at the front desk :)
Come morning, I again made us some coffee (not decaf this time -  
Brazillian for me, and Harrar Horse for my bandmates). I was actually  
a little earlier to the lobby for breakfast than they were, so ended  
up sharing a table with a nice little old lady who apparently grew up  
on a coffee plantation in Puerto Rico! I wish she would have stayed  
longer to chat, but she had to get going to the festival. Anyway, she  
was telling me about the coffee they made there - Yaucono. She was  
quite adamant about the quality, and it may have been at one time,  
but it appears that they're now a huge roaster. Any quality left?  
Anyone know? Then again, the description of the Yauco Selecto that  
Tom had last doesn't really seem to fit the flavor profile I head  
for. Still, it was an interesting chat. She was impressed that I  
homeroasted; of course, when she grew up, everyone did.
-
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9) From: Jay Bradshaw
Peter suggested:
"I guess plan C could be bring the appropriately sized filter and use
you own coffee in the in-room coffee maker..."
Now that I'm a new AP owner, I wondered about using the in room coffee maker
to heat the water, and then the AP to make the coffee?  However, there have
been many times when even after running several pots of just water through
those things, the water smelled so bad that I just gave up.  I know that
good water is essential to good coffee, and have thought about asking the
hotel kitchen if I could get some vinegar to do a quick coffee maker
cleaning - or if there is another easy way to do a quick cleaning?
For 90% of my trips, I use carry on luggage, which means I have that 3 oz, 1
qt. baggie limitation - so I really don't have room for extra coffee
cleaners.
Now that I'm hooked on the wonderful home roasting/grinding/brewing coffee
experience, there just has to be a way to get better coffee on the road....
Or so I hope.
Jay
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10) From: Vicki Smith
Plan D would be an immersion heater and the AP.
vicki
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11) From: John Despres
Add a couple little individual packets of Urnex to your travel kit and 
give that nasty hotel brewer the cleaning of it's life.
John
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12) From: raymanowen
Vicki has the plan-
Plan D' is to prep a few Coffee Balls with your own fresh roast, then...
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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13) From: Coffee
Actually I think should be plan A or B. ;-)
I'm still deciding between the AP and the Zelco. The cups of coffee  
that the two make are different. The AP makes a clean cup that I  
believe misses out on the deeper flavors and richness. The Zelco makes  
a cup that has all that in there...
Frank brought up a small french press (which I have, but I haven't  
thought of traveling with it). It would make a cup of coffee better  
than either the Zelco or the AP... But I would hate to break it. Bodum  
makes a small press that comes with a mug... Has anyone tried this?
I guess there are other options I've seen a couple of 1-cup pour overs  
too.
Once you add in the idea of an immersion heater, other possibilities  
open up. I wonder what the TSA would think of that in your luggage?
-Peter
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14) From: Vicki Smith
I have a stainless steal French press mug that I have used with the 
immersion heater. I pour the brewed coffee into a regular cup if one is 
available, but then, when I make FP at home I don't leave it in the 
press either.
v
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15) From: Barry Luterman
The bottom line becomes : What is more important, good coffee or clean
underwear? One hundred CSA points for the correct answer.
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16) From: Michael Wascher
It's a trick question.
You must have good coffee & also clean underwear in case of an emergency.
The emergency, of course, being that you ran out of filters.
--MikeW
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17) From: Barry Luterman
2OO CSA points awarded to Michael. With one exception.Clean underwear
is not needed as an emergency filter for India Anohki Coffee
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18) From: John Despres
Bodum also makes an unbreakable poly-something or other press. It's some 
sort of acrylic. I passed on them recently for a glass press but hadn't 
thought of travel uses.
John
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19) From: Barry Luterman
I have one and do not like it. It imparts a plastic taste to the
coffee. It is worse than a Styrofoams cup.
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20) From: Paul Helbert
I thought you were referencing the laxative qualities of a hot drink
in the morning.
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21) From: Dennis & Marjorie True
GOOD COFFEE!!!!!!!!!
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22) From: Barry Luterman
I mean if you have a choice between packing your coffee supplies and
underwear a true CSA will always opt for the coffee supplies
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23) From: Michael Mccandless
You can always BUY underwear @ your destination.
McSparky
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24) From: Barry Luterman
Underwear We don't need no Stinki'n underwear
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25) From: Dennis & Marjorie True
once again I can BUY underwear on the road.... you can't buy the coffee 
I enjoy every day......
gotta have the coffee with me!
Dennis
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26) From: Bill
Alright, returning the thread to a couple of thoughts about travel.
 Apparently we are a bunch of travelers, this question came up about 3
months ago at my instigation... and my travel coffee improved so damn
much!!!  Thanks again to the list!
So my 2 cents.
I travel almost exclusively by truck.  I have a coffee bag that sits by my
door.  I have my coffee, an AP (with accesories), a Bodum C-Mill (whirly
blade), and a Bodum mini Ibis (water boiler).  I would travel with an
immersion heater if needed and pre-grind if needed.
Frank and Peter, keep trying.  I think the AP gives a fine cup of coffee
when you get the variables right.
I read the entire coffee geek thread (wow!) the other week, which cleared
some things up.
You don't want to use 175 degree water.  The inventor was using that with
very dark roasted beans.  Everyone on the thread who homeroasts (and uses
lighter roasts) uses a much higher temp.  I always use just-off boil (but
I'm at elevation, which makes it just under 200 F).  175 reduces the
brightness and under-extracts.  you still want to use hot water.
Grind very fine.  I probably grind for 20 seconds.  That powderizes it
pretty well, but the paper filter can handle it.
Again, the AP directions use too much coffee.  If I am going for a
regular-strength cup with no added water, I use 1 scoop.  Generally, I use 2
scoops and then add water.
I invert, even with the paper filters.  Why?  1. longer stir time with less
seep-through. 2. more oils come through paper filter after inversion.
I stir for about 30 seconds.  The CG thread seemed to indicate that the most
critical step in the process was stirring.  steeping and pressing were
distant seconds compared to stirring.  Stir with the scoop, leave the
stirrer at home.  this also helps with bloom.
I press the bloom through the cap, then revert and press.  I press very
gently (again, counter-intuitively, but picked up from CG...)
The coffee is inferior to a French Press, but still great for an on-the-road
cup.  Scott Marquadt has a polyester felt filter that everyone swears by.  I
haven't used one yet.
I think that the AP can compare to a pretty good cup in most circumstances,
but shines on the road for ease and cleanliness.
Seriously, if you're traveling light, it doesn't get lighter than the AP,
ground coffee, and an immersion heater.  Keep fiddling with those variables,
and I think you'll find the AP a nice way to travel.
bill in wyo
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27) From: Dave Huddle
'Plan D would be an immersion heater and the AP'
Yep - just got back from a trip with my daughter's high school band
from Ohio to Disney-Orlando.   The Disney resort had no coffee machine
or way to heat water - BUT I had my Aeropress, immersion heater,
Turkish Zass, cups, and fresh homeroast.
Dave
Westerville, OH
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28) From: Barry Luterman
That's the way I travel and even have room for 1 pair of underwear
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29) From: Allon Stern
On May 5, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Barry Luterman wrote:
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How do you get the lid on the AP to close with a filter that thick?
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30) From: Barry Luterman
Easy I bought the underwear in 1987 and have been wearing it since.
Been through the wash countless times
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