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Topic: GeneCafe pitch.... (11 msgs / 319 lines)
1) From: Ken Knott
So I've been noticing that it seems the Behmor is more recommended as thus more often selected as the first major 'upgrade' rather than the GeneCafe here on the list....
Granted it is $200 cheaper or thereabouts....
Let me just say, however, that after 3 months with my GeneCafe, I could not be happier.  I absolutely love it and have had not a single solitary issue.  
More importantly, I am roasting better coffee that I ever thought possible.  My old stomping grounds, the local gourmet coffee shop (that 'roasts' their own beans) is now a sad, sad replacement for my own brew.
The Gene Cafe is fast, easy and is giving me unparalleled flexibility.  The 1/2 pound limit simply allows me to tinker even more often.  
What is truly amazing, is that I can know truly TASTE the difference between a citi roast, a full citi, full citi plus, and even french and vienna.  Wonderfully, I have found (as predicted) that I now prefer my coffee roasted below french.
I love trying the same beans roasted over the spectrum and enjoying each and every sip.  
Can you accurately control the roast to this degree and reproducibility with the pre-programmed roast (only 5????) profiles in the Behmor???  Because you sure as heck can with the GeneCafe (limitless!!!)...  I can now roast my beans EXACTLY as I like anywhere along the spectrum.
I can hear the first crack clearly, the second crack as well.. I can observed the color of my beans clearly throughout the entire roast process as well...  Everything you need to watch your roast, follow your roast, control your roast, and truly enjoy the entire process....
And it is so amazingly tasty....
Go GeneCafe!!!!
Ken
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2) From: Peter Walsh
I'll second the recommendation by Ken. Additionally I would emphasize  
how direct and simple the controls are. I read people discussing how  
to tweak and hack their roasters to get the results they want. With  
the gene cafe, you want hotter, you turn it up. You want cooler, turn  
it down. You want longer... just wait longer etc. I feel like the only  
limitations are me, not the equipment.
-Peter
On May 3, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Ken Knott wrote:
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3) From: Lynne
Good to hear this, Ken! I've enjoyed stove-top roasting, and while I've
enjoyed using my little IR2, it's the lack of control that makes it
difficult for me.
Fortunately, since my pocketbook roughly equals the method I'm currently
using to roast - I'm happy. But it's good to read about different roasting
methods - just in case things change.
At any rate, I'm happy that you've found a good roasting method that pleases
*you*.
Lynne
(giving Ken a virtual high-five. :>)
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4) From: Coffee
I'll second the recommendation by Ken. Additionally I would emphasize  
how direct and simple the controls are. I read people discussing how  
to tweak and hack their roasters to get the results they want. With  
the gene cafe, you want hotter, you turn it up. You want cooler, turn  
it down. You want longer... just wait longer etc. I feel like the only  
limitations are me, not the equipment.
-Peter
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5) From: Morris Nelson
I am happy as well.  In fact purchase two of them.  One for the US and the
other for Shanghai (can't find a good cup there).
Question though...  Have you noticed how much voltage impacts the process?
The beans roast much faster than expected.  I took it to a friend's house
and it didn't roast as hot.  In fact, I couldn't get it past 470 degrees.  I
checked the circuits and found that I have 123v in my house and 118v in my
friend's house.  I also noticed that the voltage dropped from 118v to 111v
when the roaster was turned on. Anyone have similar experiences?
This coming week, I will be roasting in Shanghai. Voltage is 220-240v.
Another challenge is finding green beans in Shanghai.  Probably will be
taking them with me.
Morris

6) From: Phil Bergman
Although it might be a topic for another thread, I must say that drum
roasted coffees are different from fluid/air roast.  I started with the IR2
and see it's limitation being predictability, size of batch, and variable
results.  But, when it roasts nicely, it gives a great cup.  The coffee is
bright and delicious.  With the drum roaster, the resulting coffee tastes
different.  It is not as bright and more "mellow".  The GeneCafe is (simply
put) a great machine.  I love it.  I wish there was a more controllable and
larger model of IR.  Then it might be a tossup between the two.  Sometimes
I'll mix some IR2 roasted coffee with the Genecafe to give a bit of lift to
the resulting combined roast.
Phil

7) From: raymanowen
"The Gene Cafe is fast, easy and is giving me unparalleled flexibility.
The 1/2 pound limit simply allows me to tinker even more often."
The above quote begs for some editing, but if you're happy, I'm happy for
you.
I know nothing about the Gene Pool, but suspect I've saved the $200,
including all the heat guns and bread machines I've ever bought and
destroyed over the years. My Fresh Roast has a diminutive capacity itself,
so it, too, forces me to tinker even more often.
A heat gun and 5qt mixer bowl have given me the total roasting profile
range, and I've roasted from 50g to 900g of beans with the set up.
Unmodified bread machines don't like to go that low- the paddle doesn't
touch many of the beans, stirring is stunted.
Since one can hit the  button any time on the Behmor, flexibility
doesn't seem to be a point of comparison.
Rather, the capacity of the Gene Pool doesn't allow so much as it forces the
roasting of batch after batch, with the Disneyland results that would give.
How would you like to paint a house using 1 Pint paint cans from the
hardware store?
The HOA would gig you for the Paisley print paint job, guaronteed.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder? Otherwise, the wonderfulsomeness of the Gene Cafe, such as it
is, is wasted.
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8) From: miKe mcKoffee
Seems the point may have been missed some home roasting people don't want
larger batches but rather prefer having variety roasted at all times. Such
was my case and my Frankie Rosto 1/2# batch "limitation" was in fact not a
limitation at all. If it had been I would have upgraded to whatever I
wanted. At the time I had the money to buy any roaster I wanted including
the likes of USRC .5k if I'd really wanted one.
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9) From: Coffee
I'm agreeing with miKe here. The best part of roasting coffee, for me,  
is the variety. I can't really see buying 20 lbs of a coffee because I  
really like it when I could have 20 different coffees. My problem is  
that I've come to the sad realization that I can't possibly try them  
all. Tom's new coffees come in too fast. I'm the only coffee drinker  
in the house. Unless I start giving it away, I wont be able to try  
everything :-(
-Peter
On May 4, 2008, at 12:19 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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10) From: Floyd Lozano
This is precisely what I do.  I roast 3 or 4 coffees a week, and the
ones I don't wow over, I gift to friends I know appreciate it.  The
ones I really like, I buy more of!
-F
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11) From: Coffee Willard
I can send you my address if you fee a need to give coffee away. It's the
least I can do so you can buy as many varieties as you like.
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