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1) From: lenf
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 I'm considering buying a bread machine just to use for coffee
roasting.  The one I have is a Panasonic and it works great for
bread, but in every cycle it waits half an hour after you press the
button before it begins 'kneading'.  Very inconvenient. 
	Are there any other BMs that do this?   Are there any particular
companies or models that are not recommended for coffee roasting with
an HG? 
	I've been looking at EBay and there are a lot of that particular
model DAK/Welbuilt  that makes a cylindrical loaf.  The machine that
looks a little like R2D2.  They're very reasonably priced.  Anyone
used one of these?  Are they okay? 
	Also in a 1 lb or 2lb machine, how much green coffee can you start
with?  Does it have to be weighed out or can you just measure it with
measuring cups, as I do with my corn popper and dog dish? 
	Thanks.
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2) From: Bill
I tried a DAK, but my problem with it was that flat beans, especially
sumatrans, would get under the agitator arm and then pop it up and it would
stop agitating.  like, every 15 seconds.  i lost a roast that way.  I posted
a question about it and a few suggestions for modifications came in to close
the gap, but i never did them.
on the advice of a few on the list, i procured a Sunbeam 5891.  The dough
function on it works wonderfully.  I have since taken off the lid, but
that's the only change i have done to it.  I've probably roasted 40 roasts
in it already and it's going like a champ.
I always measure mass, but that's not completely necessary.  You could
easily use volume.  I routinely roast 20 oz batches, but I have roasted 2
pounds with no difficulty.  I don't know if I would do much more than that
in the 5891...
hope that helps.  there's lots of experience on this list, so you can keep
asking questions.  hopefully you'll get some more responses from the list!
bill in wyo
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3) From: raymanowen
"... model DAK/Welbuilt  that makes a cylindrical loaf."
The motor is very powerful. It's a great bread machine and begs to be turned
into a self-contained roaster, with that glass dome. Reflashing the firmware
is probably feasible, but the pan is not sealed. Roasted beans could be
extracted with a cyclone. The cyclone's vacuum air stream would rapidly cool
the beans, terminating the roast quickly.
The paddle-to-pan clearance is exactly rong, so the paddle has to be trimmed
off or have its dimension increased by fastening a metal flap to it.
Dunno why you are experiencing the delayed start. That's not an unusual
feature, but you have to program it in each time you turn the machine On. It
shouldn't be available in the Dough cycle that you'd want for use for coffee
roasting
I think if you load the water and oil in the bottom with the yeast on top,
you can delay the start until, say, 2 or 3am so you'll have a hot fresh loaf
waiting when you arise in the morning.
I use an Oster to agitate beans while I wave the heat gun. A second one
makes bread or bagel and English muffin dough, but it's really my Parts
machine.
As you know, if you operate the machine outside of normal parameters or do
something that's not in the manual, you need to get fitted for one of those
T-shirts- "Warranty Strength Test In Progress."
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Wrongful misapplication, my eye- just enjoy the coffee!
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:33 PM,  wrote:
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Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
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4) From: John Grubbs
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:33 PM,  wrote:
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 I use a Breadman TR440 machine. Before I bypassed the electronics, it would
stir intermittently in the knead mode for about three minutes, then go to
continuous stirring for at least 20-25 minutes. (I never tested beyond that
time.) During the intermittent stirring, there was still plenty of motion to
keep the beans from burning. I see these or similar models pretty regularly
in thrift shops for anywhere from $4 to $15.
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No firsthand experience with the DAK, but my not-always-reliable memory
wants to say that this is one of the designs that leaves a large hole in the
bottom of the pan when you lift it out -- the hot beans spill out the bottom
when you try to dump them.
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Mine is one of the smaller models. The largest batch I've roasted so far was
3/4 lb., and it came nowhere near to the pan's capacity. I expect I could
easily do 1-1/2 lbs.
John
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