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Topic: underroasted liberica? (8 msgs / 197 lines)
1) From: Bill
I finally got around to roasting a pound of the Anohki...  life has settled
down enough that I'll be stable for a bit...  Anyway, I roasted it today as
well as a bunch of other stuff (stash reduction).
So I was cracking around 405 F (via the IR thermometer, which is typical for
Arabica).  The cracks were not real strong, nor long.  I kept the heat to
the beans for about 2.5 minutes after the first of first crack, and pulled
the beans at 420...  anyway, i should have roasted these in the broad
daylight, because there were a bunch of quakers in there.
anybody else get quakers on the Liberica?
I think that my desire to roast it light and keep it out of the barnyard
might have led me to under-roast it.  Anybody do that?  I'm really pretty
scared now.  However, I will brew some tomorrow and see what I shall see...
 hopefully I didn't totally ruin it.  If so, I still have another pound...
 we'll see we'll see...
bill in wyo
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2) From: Les
Bill,
I have found the light roast to taste real good!  I don't get a super even
roast with the Liberica, so if you are talking about extra light colored
beans, I have them too.  I am not sure which roaster you are using, but I
think you should be OK.
Les
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3) From: Bill
Les,
your response tipped the scales for me today.  I was starting my day and I
was gonna brew some Colombian cerulean warbler that I roasted yesterday.
 but i saw your email as I was warming water and i decided, what the hell...
so this is 12 hours rested Liberica.  The aroma didn't drive me out of the
kitchen, which is a good sign, right???
I'm getting no blueberries.  No barnyard, either.  not really any kind of
sweetness or fruit.
I've been drinking a fair amount of the Harar lately.  That's what this
reminds me of.  wild.  Did somebody call it "hide-y"?  I thought I read that
when I searched the list.  As a hunter, I think that that would be a good
analogy.  Not spot-on, but similar.
So anyway, we'll see what this stuff tastes like tomorrow morning.  Right
now it tastes wild and rustic.  Neither good nor bad, which frankly I'll
take as a good thing.
So thanks Les for the statement that you get light beans too.... I was
pretty worried.  There were quite a few that were still covered in chaff.
 And for this bean that means that they looked more green than yellow!
 crazy!  I use a HG/BM, so have been getting pretty even roasts...  the next
time I roast this bean I'll do it in daylight and see what that does...
hope all have a great day.
bill in wyo
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Les  wrote:
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4) From: Warren and Carolyn
Bill-
I suspect that you not tasting blueberry is a function of subjective taste. I also roast Liberica very light, and it tastes overwhelmingly of blueberry to me straight out of the shoot-and the blueberry diminishes over time. As for the Harrar comparison, it is very apt-I just roasted the new Harrar today, and it reminded me greatly of Liberica-with lots of blueberry!
Just bought 2 more pounds of Liberica too. That makes 12 pounds I have bought, 2 lbs at a time, over the past year. Wonderful stuff. Glad only Les and I like it!
Warren
Les,
your response tipped the scales for me today.  I was starting my day and I
was gonna brew some Colombian cerulean warbler that I roasted yesterday.
 but i saw your email as I was warming water and i decided, what the hell...
so this is 12 hours rested Liberica.  The aroma didn't drive me out of the
kitchen, which is a good sign, right???
I'm getting no blueberries.  No barnyard, either.  not really any kind of
sweetness or fruit.
I've been drinking a fair amount of the Harar lately.  That's what this
reminds me of.  wild.  Did somebody call it "hide-y"?  I thought I read that
when I searched the list.  As a hunter, I think that that would be a good
analogy.  Not spot-on, but similar.
So anyway, we'll see what this stuff tastes like tomorrow morning.  Right
now it tastes wild and rustic.  Neither good nor bad, which frankly I'll
take as a good thing.
So thanks Les for the statement that you get light beans too.... I was
pretty worried.  There were quite a few that were still covered in chaff.
 And for this bean that means that they looked more green than yellow!
 crazy!  I use a HG/BM, so have been getting pretty even roasts...  the next
time I roast this bean I'll do it in daylight and see what that does...
hope all have a great day.
bill in wyo
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5) From: Bill
We'll see what it tastes like tomorrow...  I can taste the blueberries in
Harar, so I would be surprised if I couldn't taste it in the Liberica...
Another word that I would use to describe the coffee was "quaker-y".  You
ever eat a couple of the quakers in a batch of Harar?  That's what my coffee
tasted like today.  Which makes me suspect that it is indeed under-roasted.
 we shall see what it tastes like tomorrow.  I may brew a cup in which I
cull all of the lighter colored beans and see what that's like...
bill in wyo
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6) From: Kris McN
Les, you, and me!  I'm on my twelfth pound as well.
Kris McN
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7) From: sci
Bill,
I've done this several times when I get in an experimental mood. The result
is always the same: very sour and weird cup. It's nothing you'd want to
drink. It basically ruins the good beans you put with the few quakers. I did
this in the last month with some Sidamo DP Spec Sel quakers (we're talkin
'bout blueberries!). I put about 8 or 9 with enough beans to make a small
FP. Result: I didn't finish the cup it was so "off."
Ivan
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I may brew a cup in which I
cull all of the lighter colored beans and see what that's like...
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8) From: Bill
Ivan,
I probably wasn't clear... I meant that I would only brew the
roasted-looking beans!!!  Yeah, I eat a quaker or 2 every time I roast a DP,
just to remind me why I'm going to the trouble to cull them by hand...  I
can't even imagine a whole cup of quakers... yuck!
Reading Josh's notes on the roast blog from when they roasted the DP Sidamo
made me feel bad for him, he had to hand-cull much bigger batches than I
ever have to!!
bill in wyo
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