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Topic: Thoughts on my next roaster (8 msgs / 218 lines)
1) From: matt hoffman
So, my Turbo Oven is on its last legs*.  I should take it apart to see
if it's repairable, but I'm worried that I'll inadvertently finish it
off instead.  Keeping the coffee flowing is crucial in my household --
it's my primary household duty.  Besides working.  Apparently in
Medieval Arabic culture, if a husband failed to provide his wife with an
adequate coffee supply, it was grounds for divorce.  I'm not sure we're
any different.
With that in mind, I went by Goodwill last weekend to see if they
happened to have a new Turbo Oven.  They didn't, but they did have a
bread machine, and I'd heard some of the buzz on Austrailian coffee
roasting sites about heat gun + bread machine roasting.  I have a heat
gun from my heat gun/dog bowl days, so I splurged the $10 and took it
home.  Unfortunately, 10 minutes into my first test roast both the heat
gun and bread machine quit;  the bread machine recovered after a
cool-off, but the heat gun no longer turns on.  As a consolation prize,
I suppose I am now equipped to bake some nice bread.  Which may taste
faintly of coffee.
So, I'm looking for other ideas.  I have been pretty happy with the
SC/TO setup;  I haven't had life-altering coffee but I've found that the
ease-of-use means I'm more likely to use it regularly.  I like that I
can be as involved as I want -- I can set it and forget it for 12-16
minutes, or I can babysit it and adjust the temp every few minutes for
an amateur "profile".   I've found that ~10oz is about as much as I can
do for an even roast in less than 15 minutes; I'd like to do more, but
with a full pound it's been uneven and taken close to 20 minutes.
So, do you experienced folks have opinions?  I could spend the $70 on a
new Turbo Oven, or take another stab at the HG/BM combo, or take a look
at the Behmor (to be honest, I'm still catching up on all the threads
about it over the past few months; I've been under a rock).  Are there
any new methods to take a look at?  My top priority is repeatable roasts
without a huge outlay of effort, but cup quality is a close second.
Higher capacity than I'm getting with the SC/TO is a "nice to have"; I
have a few friends that keep asking me for roasted coffee.
I know there are some SC/TO-to-Behmor switchers on the list -- are you
finding it to be an upgrade, or a sideways shift?  It's certainly more
expensive, but not astronomically so.
Thanks for your help,
Matt
* I have the Sunpentown manual dial version and the temperature dial
came off, then a short while later the connector to the circuit board
came out as well.  Setting the temperature is now a hit-or-miss affair;
roasts can take wildly varying amounts of time.
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2) From: Edward Bourgeois
Matt  Which turbo oven do you have and why do you think it's on it's
last legs? I like the higher wattage older non-digital Galloping
Gourmet TO and keep a spare ready. With some watching they can be
found on ebay or craigslist pretty reasonable. I clean out every once
in a while. Once you figure out the process it's pretty easy. The
thermostat contacts can get coated with grime amoung other parts.
Ed B.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:33 AM, matt hoffman  wrote:
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3) From: Kris McN
Matt,
 My top priority is repeatable roasts
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That pretty much sounds like you're describing an upgrade to a Behmor.
Higher capacity, repeatability, high quality results.  Once you figure out
the length of roast for a given bean to a given roast level, it's pretty
close to set-it-and-forget-it.  I was using the HG/BrM method mostly before
the Behmor.  I still use it sometimes, and I do recommend it as an
inexpensive way to get into home roasting and get quality results, but the
Behmor is definitely more consistent and I end up roasting even more
frequently than before, in part because it's so easy.
If you do decide to try the HG/BrM again, it sounds like you need to
disconnect the thermostat that turns off the mixer when it gets too hot.
Take of the cover and it should be apparent.
Best,
Matt
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4) From: Kris McN
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cup yet this morning?  It's a cup of Menno's Misty Valley brewed in the AP
(I definitely recommend it for fans of the DP Ethiopians - incredible
fruit!).  Give me a minute...
Best,
Kris McN
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5) From: dfluke
You have to disable or remove/move the temperature sensor on the bread 
machine or it will sense an overhead and quit. It sounds like your heat 
gun may have just had bad timing or something. I've been pretty happy 
with my hg/bm setup. I still haven't re-wired the motor so I'm still at 
the mercy of the automated cycle, which gets me by for now. You may also 
want to remove the connections to the oven like coils that also heat up 
inside the bread machine.
I may just also be lucky with my results.
Dustin
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6) From: matt hoffman
Ed,
I have the Sunpentown non-digital turbo oven.  It has two knobs -- 
temperature and time.  The temperature knob has come off, and the shaft 
that the temperature knob connected to has also come off.   It still 
turns on and heats, but regulating the temperature is now quite tricky.  
I'm not sure this condition is terminal -- I may be able to use a 
hemostat or thin pliers to to grab the nub on the circuit board that the 
shaft used to attach to, and adjust the temperature that way.  I'd just 
have to figure out what knob position corresponds to what temperature, 
since the nub turns 360 degrees.
I've cleaned the glass for visibility, but never cleaned the thermostat 
contacts.  That's a good idea.  On the Galloping Gourmet models, are 
those contacts exposed on the bottom or does that involve disassembling 
the machine?
I'll look into Galloping Gourmets on eBay -- that's certainly cheaper 
than a Behmor.  I'm still curious whether there's a quality difference.
Matt
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7) From: Edward Bourgeois
The thermostat contacts are on the inside but with a GG it takes about
a half hour to take apart and clean and reassemble. I do think the GG
are much better built and some of the GGs are 1440 or 1470 watts where
the Sunpentowns are only 1200watts. The extra wattage can allow you to
increase batch size. The wattage of a GG is listed on the sticker on
the back of the top so if not listed a email question could be sent to
a seller.
Ed
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:49 PM, matt hoffman  wrote:
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8) From: matt hoffman
Kris McN wrote:
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I was hoping and/or worried that you'd say that.  On the one hand, 
justifying new coffee equipment is always fun.  I'm really curious about 
the Behmor.  On the other hand, if you said, "SC/TO produces far better 
coffee" I could be smug in my DIY-ness and stay $250 richer.
I'm not sure which I prefer...
I do like the fact that the Behmor is simple enough that I could 
delegate it to my wife if I don't have time.  It's not an arcane art.  
Now that I think about it, though, it could be a downside that it's not 
an arcane art.  I wouldn't have the shaman-like status as "The Roaster 
of the Coffee".   I would be "the one who pushed the button this time."  
Hmm....
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If I go by Harbor Freight at some point I'll pick up a cheap heat gun 
and give it another shot.  Until then, perhaps I'll try my hand at 
cinnamon buns. :)
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