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Topic: Kona Crime (15 msgs / 322 lines)
1) From: Mike Chester
KAILUA-KONA, Hawaii (AP) - Police in Hawaii say a thief got his caffeine fix when he made off with more than 1,000 pounds of Kona coffee beans.
Police say the beans were taken from a home sometime between May 27 and May 29. The beans were in 100-pound burlap bags.
Police are asking the public to report anyone trying to sell green coffee beans.
The Kona area of Hawaii's Big Island is famous for its premium coffee beans.
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2) From: Barry Luterman
At the same time a helicopter with 2 tourists and a pilot went down on
the Big Island. The search planes have yet to find the wreckage.
Ironically, both stories are getting equal representation in the local
press.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Mike Chester  wrote:
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3) From: Mike Chester
Barry,
Unfortunately that is true of news in general.  We know more about Lindsay 
Lohan returning to rehab that about the Taliban returning to Afghanistan.
In this case, I suspect it is the novelty of someone breaking into a house 
and stealing 1000 lb. of green coffee.  I have never heard of that happening 
before.
There are many theories of why the news seems to concentrate more on the 
trivial than the substantive, some benign and some more sinister.  A master 
illusionist accomplishes his tricks by getting the audience to focus on the 
wrong thing and a master propagandist gets the people to focus on 
meaningless details and ignore the large picture.
Sorry, I seem to be wandering a bit far from topic.  The original story was 
about coffee and I thought it might be of interest to members of this list.
Mike Chester

4) From: Barry Luterman
No you are right. The press here has an interest in the tourest trade.
Helicopter rides to the volcano are a big tourist attraction. Some one
having a thousand pounds of coffee in their house is funny. Of course
the press neglected to say the man was a small coffee farmer and it
was part of his crop.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Mike Chester  wrote:
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5) From: Seth Grandeau
Barry, you seem to know a lot about this crime....hmmm.
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6) From: Barry Luterman
Actually I am not a big Kona fan. Agricultural theft is a big problem
here.  It really hits those least able to afford it. There are a lot
of subsistence farmers here and a lot of farmers markets where stolen
goods are easily sold. There was a Meth addict who was constantly
stealing goods from a farmer in the next town from me. The police
wouldn't help. Finally the farmer killed the thief in the act. The
Farmer is now in jail.
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7) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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it's a problem a lot of other places too. parchment coffee (not yet 
dry milled) is very close to being money - and it's not hard to sell 
it as your own to a mill that pools coffee (which many in Kona and 
elsewhere do). so i am really interested in the Lindsay Lohan angle - 
what did she have to do with it??? do tell!!!
tom
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8) From: Tom Ulmer
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/area_man_puts_on_some_nice

9) From: Seth Grandeau
You live in hawaii, are passionate about coffee, yet don't care for Kona?
Interesting.  Do you like any of the non-kona hawaiian coffees?
I'll be in your neck of the woods soon.  We're heading out there in July.
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10) From: Rich
Its not PC to shoot a thief in the act.
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11) From: Jim and Tina Wheeler
About the only reason for shooting another person is when your life or the
lives of your family are in immediate danger.  The phrase "in the gravest
extreme" comes to mind.  Even then, the bad guys have families and families
tend to sue the person who harmed their loved one.
A fellow in Utah is in jail because he roughed up a couple of guys he caught
spray painting his car.  The only weapons he used were his hands and he is
still in real trouble.
As far as I can tell, the best choice is to get a good description, license
number, etc. and let law enforcement do their job.  Even they get sued by
the bad guys for not following the law and proper procedures.
May I suggest that we go back to coffee and relax.  This is a really loaded
topic.
-- 
Jim in Skull Valley (not a lawyer and not likely to become one)
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12) From: Mike Chester
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Wouldn't the mill notice if someone came in with a load of coffee, but did 
not own a farm?  Maybe they don't care. Of course, if the thief had a farm, 
no one would notice a slight increase in "production."
Lindsay probably drinks coffee, which would be her only connection to the 
story.  Sorry for getting into a mini rant about priorities in news 
coverage.
Mike Chester
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13) From: Stan Klonowski
Is it possible to obtain samples of various coffees from a region?
  I work as a chemist and we have done the initial work to try and start
realizing the actual origins of agricultural products. We used coffee in our
feasibility study it would be great to try and decrease our study area in an
effort to see how sensitive we can make the technique.
I would love to see this applied as an effort to protect the innocent.
Stan
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14) From: Tom Ulmer
In breaking news highlighting a most futile effort to provide on topic
coffee, Squeeze, the band who popularized "Black Coffee in Bed" in the early
1980s, will participate in WOMAD Charlton Park. Following a related story,
relatively unknown coffee purveyor, Lindsay Lohan, is slated to offer Kona
coffee on the cheap to meandering festival attendees synchronous with the
world flavor of the event.

15) From: Barry Luterman
Will be in Oregon from July 18 till Aug 1. But if your here before the
18 give me a call.Kona is OK to good the other Hawaiian coffees and
low grown Konas are usually not worth drinking.Last year I was on a
Brazil kick. This year it seems to be Bali and Guatemalans in the lead
for me.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Seth Grandeau  wrote:
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