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Topic: Behmor help (27 msgs / 505 lines)
1) From: Bill Allison
I had a fire in my Behmor.  Terrible tragedy!  I roast in the garage.   
The phone rang and I went inside to answer it. My intention was to  
pick up the cordless and go back out into the garage.  Then my wife  
asked me to look at something.  Well, with a short attention span, I  
lost track of where I was and what I was doing.  When I remembered,  
the fire was well under way.
I have cleaned it up the best I could.  I have run a few batches  
through but there seems to be a problem.  I cannot get the beans even  
to first crack.
Does anyone know  if there is anything I can do to get the Behmor  
working again?
Thanks.
Bill Allison
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2) From: Rich
On the right side in the area between the three screws it must be bright 
and shiny.  If it is not, don't try and use a Scotchbrite pad, you will 
produce a mate finish and that will not work.  Something like Mothers 
polish from the auto parts store will clean it right up in very little time.
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3) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
send an email to Joe Behm or give him a call. He is amazingly quick on  
getting back to you. His email is tech and the phone number  
to call is in the manual.
You will truly be amazed at the service you will receive.
dave
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4) From: Dean De Crisce
Yes call joe behm
Dean De Crisce
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5) From: Jamie Dolan
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Scrub well with Simple Green.  Clean the sensor in particular.
Jamie
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6) From: miKe mcKoffee
In most cases "learning and doing from Tom's example" is a good thing. In
this case leaving the Behmor roasting away unattended as Tom did and
replicating his Behmor fire was not one of them:-)
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7) From: Bob Hazen
That's a circuitous way of saying "I told you so!"  (VBG)

8) From: miKe mcKoffee
Or more accurately "Tom told you so", I haven't had a Behmor fire to report.
Did have a fun Caffe' Rosto power on test chaff fire after doing split wired
mod on one of my 3 Rostos 5 years ago or so and NOT thoroughly cleaning the
lower chamber housing the fan motor... 
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9) From: Bill Allison
Where is the sensor?
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10) From: Bill Allison
Thank you for that insightful advice.
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11) From: Barry Luterman
The sensor is behind the shiny plate which is held in by 3 screws on
the inside right . It is just above where the drum attaches to the
motor of the machine.
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12) From: Rich
As in my previous post.  Right hand side on a line between the three 
screws right in front of the heaters.  Should be shiny for best results. 
  A scotchbrite pad will not leave it shiny.  I would use Mothers polish.
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13) From: Bill Allison
Thanks.  I don't think I got it "shiny" but I did clean it well.  I  
will get some Mothers tomorrow and finish the job.  Thank you for your  
help.
Bill Allison
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14) From: Alchemist John
Having done some work and R&D on a few Behmors (not to mention I 
started the "shiny area" bit around the thermistor, I have also come 
across a couple of instances that even this cleaning will not 
help.  This is speculation only, but it seems in some cases, after a 
fire the thermistor is shocked and gives falsely low reading 
afterwards.  Replacement is then the only option.
Try out a roast and report back.
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15) From: Seth Grandeau
I had an interesting Behmor problem recently.  I was roasting a full pound
and had maxed out time on the profile, but it still had only started 1st
crack when the timer ran out.  I tried to stop the machine, then quickly
re-start it to get it through 1st.  Sadly, the Behmor is smarter than I am
and would not re-start, even after being un plugged.  Sadder still, during
all the time I was trying to persuade it to restart, the beans were not
moving.  I started a cool down cycle, but saw a lot of smoke and I panicked
and unplugged it again.  When it was clear that it was not a raging fire,
but a small chaff fire, I restarted the cooling cycle.
Needless to say, that batch was a failure, but I also ended up with a pile
of burned chaff in the bottom front right (as I look at the machine) of the
chaff collector.  I cleaned out the chaff and ran a cleaning cycle, but that
area of the collector is discolored and each batch I've roasted since then
has ended up with burned chaff in that corner.  My most recent roast,
Brazilian Pedra Grande - Bourbon Cultivar (which I took to a nice FC on P3,
the first snap of 2nd started just after I hit cooldown) is a very chaffy
coffee.  As the roaster went into cool down and the fan kicked up, I had
quite a light show of flashing chaff coming out of that "burn corner."
Also, I got some smoke during this phase.  After the roast, I had a big pile
of charred chaff in that corner.
I'm going to pick up some simple green and try to clean that corner good and
see if I can remove any of the discoloration.  Any other ideas or
suggestions?
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16) From: Alchemist John
Leading question, that I will explain later....are you roasting where 
is it currently warm?
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17) From: Rich
You have to get it clean and shined up again or you will always burn 
chaff there.  Simple Green will not touch it.  It is all stainless steel 
so you can get away with some harsh chemical cleaners, but most don't 
work either.  Mothers polish is messy but it works.
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18) From: Seth Grandeau
My last roast was at about 80 degrees of ambient temperature.  The previous
ones were in that range, as well, maybe a little hotter.
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19) From: Seth Grandeau
Rich,
Is Mothers polish safe for use in a food environment?  I know none of the
coffee should come in contact with it, but will it give off fumes,
particularly in a 400+ degree roasting environment?
-Seth
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20) From: Dave Huddle
I use some stuff from Shaklee -  definetly food safe.    One product
is a pink paste in a short plastic can, the other is a white
suspension.    Of course, I can't remember the name of either Shaklee
product now, & I'm too tired to go find it.    If you're interested,
I'll look it up tomorrow. They take the crud off the chaff tray quiet
well.
Dave
Westerville, OH
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21) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
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Dave,
    If you'd be so kind, I'm another Behmor user who'd really like to 
know what that cleaning stuff is.  My machine works pretty darn good, 
but ... I do have several darker areas that I've been unable to clean up.
pat----
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22) From: Alchemist John
Guys,  I am not sure where the shiny bit started, but it really isn't 
THAT necessary.  The goal is simply to have it not be black and 
absorb heat more.  FYI
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23) From: raymanowen
If anything gives off fumes in a 400+ roasting environment, let it do so.
The next time you actually roast, the fumes will be all gone.
Shaklee used to sell concentrates called Basic-H and Basic-I. The latter was
"industrial strength." I'm clueless about their current snake oil, but their
markup was a bit much.
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24) From: Rich
The website claims 'organic" and "natural" but in no place that I found =
did it mention NSF or food grade.  I have never seen an abrasive polish =
that was NSF.  There may be one but I have yet to find it.  Not really =
concerned either.
I can think of several things that are organic and natural tht you just =
would not want to eat.  Tomatoes anyone?
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25) From: Dave Huddle
Pat said....
"Dave,
  If you'd be so kind, I'm another Behmor user who'd really like to
know what that cleaning stuff is.  My machine works pretty darn good,
but ... I do have several darker areas that I've been unable to clean
up."
One  Shalkee product my wife got for me is  "Get Clean Scour Off
Heavy-Duty Paste".   The container has the following info "It even
cleans burnt-on food in your oven.   And doesn't turn off your nose
hairs in the process.  Avoid use on silver, brass, aluminum or any
mirror-like finish."   I've used it on an old tooth brush to clean the
perforated part of the chaff tray.
The other Shaklee product is "Liquid at Ease  Non-Abrasive Cleaner"
"....will not scratch fiberglass or porcelain.  It is safe for use on
kitchen appliances, stainless steel sinks, glass and ceramic."
After every roast, I wipe the interior of the Behmor with a paper
towel dampened with Simple Green, followed by a wipe with a damp paper
towel
It still looks 'almost new' after about 90 roasts.
Dave
Westerville
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26) From: Barry Luterman
I have good luck with Windex cleaning after each roast. If stuff gets
burnt on the a little disolved Oxyclean takes care of it with ease.
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27) From: Paul Helbert
Everything in the world is made from natural ingredients.
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Prepackaged, roasted & ground coffee,,,
Some of the worst ideas since sliced bread.
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