HomeRoast Digest


Topic: FreshRoast for a starter? (8 msgs / 248 lines)
1) From: Dave Smith
Greetings,
I'm new to the world of coffee, but one of the things that I'd like to
try doing is roasting at home (I suppose I've come to the right
place...:)). I like the idea of not having to run to the store every
week for new coffee and roasting sounds reasonable (hopefully)
straightforward. I was contemplating getting a FreshRoast+ for the
job, but am having a hard time sorting out if it will generate enough
coffee for 7-10 days. It seems to me that I should be able to just
make two batches (of course waiting between batches for the machine to
cool) and store them together in a airtight jar, or something. Does
the list have any wisdom on how best to handle this?
Additionally, I'm would like to roast for espresso -- will the
FreshRoast do a good job at this? I've read on a couple of boards that
some people feel a n00b will not be able to roast decent espresso at
home -- am I delusional? :)
Thanks,
D.
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

2) From: Coffee
Roast enough for 7-10 days? How much do you drink?
I'm the only coffee drinker in my house and I go through about 3/4 - 1  
lbs per week. I've got the Gene Cafe which has a half-pound batch size  
and I roast a couple of batches per week. An 8 ounce batch of green  
coffee looses some weight in roasting and you end up with somewhat  
less ... perhaps 6.7 - 6.8 oz of roasted coffee. With a drip coffee  
maker, I get about a gallon of coffee out of one roast.
So, how much coffee you need to roast is now a math exercise. ;-)
The Fresh Roast (according to Sweet Maria's) is best with 2.25 oz  
batch size, with will give you 2.2 oz of coffee after roasting. That  
would make about 42 oz of coffee. I would have to do 5 or 6 roasts a  
week to keep up with my habit.
-Peter
On Jun 28, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

3) From: Dean De Crisce
Welcome dave...
I'm sure you'll get some great tips here. I started with a popper...not too unlike a fresh roast. I found that the roast quantity was two days worth of shots...so I ended up trying with the oven. I drink a pound a week...more or less. The oven  worked well for me for awhile. But I wanted to increase the control and consistancy and eventually got a behmor.
My preferred drinking is espresso. All my roasts are geared for that. Its working well for me!
Dean De Crisce
Sent from a Treo phone.

4) From: miKe mcKoffee
A Freshroast is a poor candiate roasting for espresso IMO, but it also
depends on where your "bar" is set. You mentioned "running to the store"
each week for beans, if that means a grocery store the bar is set rather low
so you'll likely be able to do better without much of a learning curve.
Which is not to say it'll be on par with good roasts, just better than stale
beans of dubious quality to begin with that have been sitting on a shelf who
knows how long.
The FR will yield about 3 double shots per roast, 3 double shots. That's not
the bad part. It is pretty much a "speed roaster", not close to an ideal
roast for espresso. IMO the FR was designed as a roast and brew a "pot"
device.
Turning beans brown is indeed reasonably straight forward. And the FR is
cheap. Back to that "bar". If your bar isn't set high you may be satisified
with it.
Pacific Northwest Gathering VIIhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVII.htmKona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
www.mcKonaKoffee.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

5) From: raymanowen
The only significant requirement to coffee brewing of any kind is The
Grinder.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

6) From: raymanowen
Fresh Roast for a starter? Yes. It's highly flexible as you gain experience
without financial hemorrhage. Spend money on the grinder at the start.
Everything else will fall into place.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:31 PM,  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

7) From: David Martin
Hi, Dave,
I used a FreshRoast+ for 2 years, until I finally switched to the heat
gun method. The FR+ roasts too fast, and there are certain coffees it
just can't do right, but I still think it's a good starter device, as
long as you accept that eventually you'll "outgrow" it. The capacity
issue is a case in point. For a beginner, I think, low capacity is a
good thing, because you get to experience more roasts in a shorter
period of time.  Having said that, if I had to do it over again, I'd
probably just start out with the heat gun method from the beginning;
it's not as difficult as it might seem.
As for the question of whether a n00b can roast decent espresso at
home: I don't know, because I don't do home espresso, but I would take
it with a grain of salt. How is one supposed to stop being a "n00b" if
they're afraid to try anything? In fact, one of the nice things about
home roasting, in comparison with similar crafts like brewing & wine
making, is that the cost of failure is so low. If you screw up a
roast, all you're losing is a hand full of beans.
-Dave
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Dave Smith  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

8) From: MJR
Hello Dave,
I use a freshroast+ now for 7 months. Here's the deal.....
1. With fluid-bed roasters you have to roast the same amount of raw beans
each time. The balance between floating the beans and the correct
temperature depends on it.
2. The freshroast+ takes 2.25 oz or about 43cc of beans (there is a little
measuring cup that comes with it if you don't have a scale). That roasts
down to a little over 2 oz of roasted coffee (beans loose water as they
roast), enough for 7 cups of coffee in a standard automatic conical drip
coffee maker. Don't know how many espresso shots that would make, but how
you get your espresso depends more on the grinder than the roaster. The
freshroast+ is quite capable of roasting from a mild "City Roast" to
blackend chared beans, so you can certainly get what you want there...
3. You must let the unit cool at least 20 minutes between roasts. If you
want to roast enough for a week, you will have to spend some time roasting
2.25oz batches until you have what ever quantity you want.
4. The freshroast+ is faster than conventional roasting though (except for
those 20min cool-downs. 5mins is all it takes to get to a nice dark "Full
City+" for many beans, 6 mins at the most, compared to 10+ for
conventional roasters.
5. Bottom line... Freshroast+ very good for beginners. Will give you a
feel for coffee roasting and will help to train your ear to first crack,
second crack, etc. Helps also to train your eye so you can tell when the
coffee is where you want it, etc. But don't think you're going to roast
enough in a batch or two for a whole week unless you don't drink very
much. My girlfriend and I go through only 4 or 5 cups a day. At that rate,
we go through one roast cycle per day worth of beans. Your mileage may
vary :-)
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20


HomeRoast Digest