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Topic: Faster Motor on the RK (18 msgs / 376 lines)
1) From: Jamie Dolan
HI;
Have any of you upgraded from the standard 5 RPM grill motor to a 50
or so RPM roasting motor on your RK?
Did it help your roast?  What are you thoughts on the faster motors
(in terms of end roast results)?
Has anyone purchased one of the motors from RK?
Thanks;
Jamie
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2) From: Derek Bradford
I don't have an RK, but I do roast with a drum over gas.  I use a 72rpm
motor, and I think it's probably at the upper limit of turning speed.  Many
people think the 50s are the limit.  I think there are some commercial
roasters going higher (approaching my 72); I think I once saw Tom mention
something about that.
I've never roasted at 50, but I did go from 20 to 72.  There's lots of bean
movement, and my roasts are very even, and there's no scorching or tipping.
In terms of end roast results, I like the results and can't conceive of any
negative effect it might have on my roasts.
--Derek
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3) From: Terry Stockdale
I made the change from a regular rotisserie to a higher-speed 
motor.  Mine is the 57 rpm gear motor that Ron used around 2004, 
until it was no longer available.  It made a huge difference in 
consistency within a roast.
I've got 5 pages on my rkdrum roaster here (many of the images are 
links to higher-resolution images):http://www.terrystockdale.com/coffee/rkdrum_roaster.php--
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4) From: Alchemist John
Likewise, in my drum roaster (non-RK) I went from 6 rpm to 42.  Made 
a huge difference when I had no complaints about the previous 
roasts.  It kicks in convection and aside from increasing consistency 
and reducing tipping, it makes heat transfer more efficient and 
control more fine tunable.  I am on electric, but it was suddenly 
like I was using 25% more power in that the roasts progressed so much 
faster.  Convection.
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5) From: RK
Jamie the difference is like night and day.
Much easier to get even roasts more hot air movement, cuts roasting time by
about 2 min unless you lower your temps.
50 to 65 rpm is optimum IMO.
Stick rate on the RK is about 82rpm that is where the beans stick to the
side of the drum.
5rpm will work OK for up to about 2 lbs and with heat controll you can
acheive a nice even roast.
Cheers
RK

6) From: saxcollector@snet.net
Good sales pitch right from the horses mouth.
:)
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7) From: saxcollector@snet.net
Good sales pitch right from the horses mouth.
:)
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8) From: RK
Posted by saxcollector
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:)
That's exactly why I do not like to contribute to questions about  RK
Products.
Someone is always going to consider it as a sales pitch. I know it sounds
like a sales pitch, but it was not intended to be one, I only stated the
truth about the differences of a 5 rpm versus a 50 rpm motor. I also ended
the  post referring back to the 5rpm motors capability to produce a even
roasts on small batches.
Sorry If I offended anyone with my reply and will refrain from any responses
related to my products in the future.
If anyone wants my personal advise they can email off list and I will be
glad to help.
coffeeman
Ron Kyle
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9) From: Jamie Dolan
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The post RK made was factual and didn't even speak of any details of
his motors (i.e. speeds his motors run at).
He made helpful comments that were in no way aimed at getting people
to buy from him, imo.
I did just order a motor from him for my drum.  He makes a nice
mounting bracket for it, and he stands behind his products.  I found a
little motor elsewhere that was cheaper than what he sells them for,
but, there is value in dealing with someone like RK that is there to
help you out.
I have no connection to him other than having purchased from him...
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I have e-mailed him several times with roasting related questions and
he has always responded promptly and been quite helpful, he's never
tried to sell me anything.
Jamie
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10) From: miKe mcKoffee
Ron, no apology necessary. Information is valid regardless the source.
Please do NOT stop giving your input on best use of an RK type setup. IF it
bothers some people, that's their problem. It's up to an individual to weigh
the merits of any List input based on their knowledge of the poster's
reference experience base. Who better to reference a direct RK usage
queston? Limiting the dialog to off List would do the List an information
exchange disservice. Post on until TOM or his representative says otherwise.
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found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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11) From: Michael Dhabolt
Ron,
I always pay attention to your posts, and didn't for a second consider
your input to this thread to be anywhere close to being over the line
with respect to the rules of the road for this list.  I, as I'm sure
the majority of others, appreciated the technical input from a source
whose technical expertise in this subject matter can not be impugned.
Mike (just plain)
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12) From: Vicki Smith
I can't know the intent of the OP, but when I read it, I thought it was 
referring to how good information/good products speak for themselves. I 
may never get an RK, given what our winters are like, but I always enjoy 
reading your posts, Ron.
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13) From: Terry Stockdale
At 07:01 PM 7/5/2008, Viicki Smith wrote:
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Given the history of helpful posts and responses from Ron and the 
lack of history from the other party (at least, that I can find in my 
email program or in the archives at themeyers.org) , and who doesn't 
even post using his name, I know to whom I am going to listen.
Thanks for posting Ron.  Keep up the good work.  Don't let a snide 
remark ruin your attitude nor our pleasure in learning more about RK drums.
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14) From: Brian Kamnetz
Ron,
I agree wholeheartedly with what miKe said, but add that I read your
response and saw right away that you were referring to drum roasting
in general. Drum speed has been thoroughly discussed on this list and
I recall  that there is general consensus regarding the most effective
range of speeds. The person asking the question is new to the list and
therefore wasn't privvy to those previous discussions, and when there
were few responses to the question you were good enough to pipe up
with an answer to the question that was asked. As always, the advice
you provided was factual and effective.
Brian
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15) From: Jim Gundlach
Ron,
      Newer people do not know your history with this list.  You  
designed and started production as a list member and the effort you  
have put into converting the near universal BBQ grill into a coffee  
roaster that is the best fit with the suburban life style and quite  
useful for someone getting into roasting as a sideline or a business.   
Mr. saxcollector at snet(dot)net needs to stop sucking on his applied  
Preparation H and realize that there are real human beings with  
feelings on the list who have gone out of their way help all kinds of  
other people.  You have never made sharing your knowledge contingent  
on someone buying from you and your postings are a substantial  
contribution to anyone using the archive to educate themselves.  Mr  
saxcollector owes you and the list an apology.
      pecan jim
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16) From: Sue
Salespitch? I missed that. I didn't hear Ron try to sell anything. What I
did hear is sound advice from a voice of experience. Ron isn't the only one
that sells motors with an RPM > than 5! The previous couple posts were even
from people with both non-RK and RK drums. It sounded like a good discussion
going on until your post! The little smiley at the end of your rude
statement doesn't cut it! What it says to me is that you really enjoyed
making the remark!
Sue
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17) From: raymanowen
RK, your knowledge is comprehensive and of universal interest. The
veterinarians on the list are probably grinning at the demonstration of the
inability and failure of the veterinary technician who inserted himself in
the conversation to detect the exact orientation of the equine in question.
Ganz Pferdescheiße!
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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18) From: Les
Ron is one of the most above board people I know.  If memory serves me
right, he has recommended new roasters get a Poppery to hone their skills
before moving to an RK.  Sales pitch?   One of the first people to
congratulate me when I got my commercial roaster was Ron.  I loved my RK
drum, and you won't find a better built or backed product anywhere.
Les
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