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Topic: How Long is Your Morning Fiasco? (29 msgs / 716 lines)
1) From: Bryan Wray
Weeelll, the posts from the other day got my curious:  Just how long does it take me in the morning to make my coffee?  Am I right about what I think?  Or is time flying by without me even knowing?  So today as I was brewing I used my timer.  However I wasn't staring at the timer the whole time making notes of when things happened, but you'll get the idea; I looked often enough.
Press start and grab Bodum Kettle
Grab Mug, fill with water, dump into kettle, return kettle to base and turn on.
Run tap water until hot, fill mug (to preheat), fill Chemex (to preheat)
Grab Filter
Go over to scale
Measure out 28g beans (1:57)
Grind
Pour water out of Chemex
Insert Filter (I heard the kettle click off at this point)
Pour in grounds and grab kettle (2:32)
Pour for bloom
Second pour (3:08)
Cleanup grind area as water filters through
Grab wooden handles (I don't keep them attached)
Dump Water out of mug
Water his finished filtering through (6:51)
Pick up filter and throw in garbage
Pour mug
Rinse out Chemex (=fill, dump, fill, dump, then into dishwasher)
Stop
Total time was 8:02, right about what I thought.
-Bry
BTW, it took my 8:32 to type this email... haha, yay for timers.
"It is my hope that people realize that coffee is more than just a caffeine delivery service, it can be a culinary art"- Chris Owens of Cafe Grumpy in NYC.
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2) From: Rich
You are not using enough fingers.......
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3) From: Les
I multi-task, and eat my bowl of cereal while the Technivorm is brewing the
coffee.  About the time I am done eating, the brew is ready to pour into a
favorite mug to enjoy the first cup of the day.  The second cup goes in the
travel mug and is enjoyed on the commute and during the first half hour or
so of the work day.  I am just finishing up the last sips as I type.
Les
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4) From: Tom Ulmer
I'm certainly not as keen to my environment as you appear to be at brew
time. The work day morning coffee is brewed in a press. It takes about four
minutes of preparation - while the water heats I grind (measurement is
pouring beans to a level in the hopper I suppose to be adequate), clean the
insulated carafe, and collecting his and hers mugs - and four minutes to
brew. Mugs are filled and the remainder goes to the carafe. Down time is
filled by scanning the always inadequate Palm Beach Post for an interesting
story. The press mess falls to the other side of the household division of
labor.

5) From: Dave Huddle
Untill the kitchen & roasting room-laundry room renovations are  100%
done, I brew in the bathroom.   (I had to set a board across the 2nd
lavatory to gain enough space for the task.)
Fill the Krups Moka brew with water
Weigh & grind the beans
(sometimes, I weigh out the beans and fill the KMB at night.)
Assemble the brewer and hit the ON switch.
Step into the shower
When I'm finished with the shampoo & shower, the KMB is `1/2 done.
By the time I dry my hair (VERYlittle time spent there!)  & put my
contacts in, it's finished.
Dave
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6) From: Frank Awbrey
Talk about multi-tasking, Dave :>). Sit and sip :>)
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7) From: Brian Kamnetz
Dave,
Perhaps oddly, making coffee in the KMB in the bathroom while you
shower seems really cozy to me, quite appealing. Of course I live
alone and therefore may have a different outlook on what is proper
where in the house.
I happen to know how long my morning coffee etc routine takes. I use
filtered water from the refrig. I pour 1 3/4 cups into a measure and
pop it into the microwave at 4 minutes. I weigh 26 grams of beans,
grind them, and put the grounds into the moka pot "funnel" filter.
About this time the microwave dings, so it has been 4 mins. I pour the
hot water into the moka pot base, place the grounds-laden filter into
the base, rinse the top (don't ask me why) and wet the filter, pour a
bit of water into the top part, and assemble the moka pot. I suppose
this all might take a minute.
I put the moka pot onto the simmer burner set about halfway and start
the timer, and start preparing a bowl of raisin bran topped with Grape
Nuts. Usually around 2 minutes the moka pot coffee starts seeping and
I turn it to the lowest heat level. I eat my cereal and fiddle with
the burner control to keep the coffee just seeping. By the time the
coffee is done (usually 8-9 minutes) I have finished the cereal and a
glass of juice and vitamins/supplements. I clean up and often note
that the timer is now around 18 minutes. So, add the four mins of
microwave time and the minute setting up the moka pot, and it all
takes about 23 minutes from start to finish.
Brian
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8) From: Brian Kamnetz
Oops... I said "rinse the top (don't ask me why) and wet the filter".
I meant to say "rinse the top (don't ask me why) and wet the
GASKET...".
Brian
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9) From: Paul Helbert
Lunchtime: Only took ten minutes to do the whole Chemex thing. The
extra time yesterday must have been from the morning fog!
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10) From: Sandy Andina
Load grinder at bedtime
Fill Technivorm with water at bedtime
Once up, fetch can of cat food and dishes,  fill carafe with hot  
water, grind coffee, load filter, empty carafe, place under spout, hit  
"on" switch.
Wait 30 sec., stir grounds, put cover back on filter, open slider  
switch to halfway
Open can of cat food
Open slider switch all the way
Feed cats
By then, coffee is ready; turn off Technivorm, pour a cup, cap the  
carafe, dump grounds and rinse filter.
Sandy Andina
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11) From: Dave
And I feel like I'm doing really well when I manage to get a decent cup with
my AP first thing in the morning, WITHOUT any distraction;) Usually I forget
to keep track of the timing for at least 1 step...
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It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
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12) From: Gary Foster
Couple of minutes for me... fill the Newco OCS with spring water,  
grind the beans in the rocky, add to the newco, push the button,  
wander away sleepily until the newco beeps (LOUD).  Prepare two cups  
of coffee (for me and the wife).  Finally open my eyes.
Guess I'm not exotic enough in my brew methods :)
-- Gary F.
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13) From: miKe mcKoffee
About 3 minutes or so: Bricoletta is on timer 4:00am to be fully pre-heated
when I get up 5:15. Unscrew mason jar ring-pop vac'd dome-measure out 60cc
beans into grinder and start grinder-start Bric' pre-shot flush and while
flush running re-vac jar, end flush-wipe PF dry-build PF-2nd flush into cup
for first of the morning 'cano, pull, take a sip, knock puck and off boil
hotwater rinse PF, group PF water wiggle with blank (keep blank in 2nd PF on
drip tray for always ready to use) -water bacflush-repeat wiggle water
backflush, done. Proceed to drink Americano as my eyes start to come into
focus:-)
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14) From: Dean De Crisce
This is a great thread. My morning routine varies because I often wake up hours before I have to leave. But generally I wake up turn on the saeco...get paperwork ready for work...lay out work stuff...prime saeco...dump 17g in the grinder through the shoot of the rocky into the portafilter. Tamp, polish, shoot a double. Pour into stainless steel cup with 3 ice cubes and 3 splendas. Then knock box and clean up..
I usually sit down and check emails and then go back and put 12 oz water in the kettle and 21 grams in the grinder for fp. While the water in heating, I pull out the big mug fill with ice and splenda. As soon as the kettle whistles I cut the heat, grind the beans into the fp, and then pour.
I stir the press with a skewer stick and hit timer for 3:30 minutes. After pour the cup and usually am too lazy to clean out the press. I or my nice wife will clean it out later
this is usually enough...sometimes ill do another shot. That's my breakfast...as I usually am not hungry until lunch.
All in all about 20 min.s   today I woke up so late that I didn't have anytime to make a cup. I bought a cup at the quickymart...reminded me why I bother doing all this stuff.
Dean De Crisce
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15) From: Sean Cary
up at 0500...  first thing is 8 scoops into the Rocky...dispense into a
glass tankard.  Dump the tankard into the Presto, add spring water and fire
it off.  Load my lunch box, take my vitamins and supplements - off to brush
my teeth and get dressed.  Suited up to ride into work by 0525, add 1/2 and
1/2 and sweet n lo into my thermos, top with coffee, close it up....  Pack
it in my saddle bags, fire up the Road King or the KLR depending on the
weather and off and riding by 0535.  Drink it post PT which I am usually
done by 0730.
Repeat 5x a week.
Sean
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16) From: Jamie Dolan
Am I the only one to make espresso every morning?
It goes really fast with the mazer, unless I am using the pressurized
portafilter and it clogs, then it is a mess and takes forever.
Jamie
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17) From: Dean De Crisce
Nope...one to two doubles every morning are my thing. Followed by a fp for a bigger cup.
Dean De Crisce
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18) From: Sandy Andina
On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:54 PM, Jamie Dolan wrote:
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Nope. I usually make my husband & son their Technivorm drip, flip the  
switch on my LaCora "on," go back to bed and when I get up again pull  
myself a shot or an Americano (call me a philistine, but I keep the  
Mazzer hopper loaded with whatever espresso blend I happen to be  
using).  If for some reason we all get up late, unless someone has to  
fill a travel mug, everyone gets Americanos or lattes.  I use the  
triple basket with the regular double-spout PF and pull the shots one  
drink at a time. And sometimes if I'm feeling contrarian, I will use  
the LaCora's hot water tap for my Aeropress rather than wait for the  
electric kettle.
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19) From: Michael Dhabolt
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By the time Loretta and I finish the morning Caps and I shift to at
least one Machiotto we are up to about a half dozen doubles.
Mike (just plain)
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20) From: Jim Gundlach
I guess the early morning is over so I guess I can describe it.   Woke  
up at 3:55, same as yesterday but since I could not get back to sleep  
yesterday, I went ahead and got up.  Moved the plug of the Andreja out  
of the timer to a direct plug so I was able to pull a triple Yeman for  
a cappa by 4:20.  Took the four dogs out for a restroom break while  
the Andreja warmed up.  Since I had a while before anyone else got up  
I worked on a research project using the recently released  
supplemental homicide files for 1976-2005.  Working on a project to  
see if the states with early domestic violence intervention had a  
decline in homicides by young people fifteen to twenty years later.   
This a test of Lonny Athen's theory of how killers are made.  Since  
domestic violence intervention removes children from households where  
violence is taught as a legitimate way of getting what you want,  
removing the children from that violent coaching experience should  
result in fewer children being socialized as violent potential  
killers.  Anyway, this is a large file with a record for each of  
538,210 homicide victims and it takes a lot of work organizing the  
data to test the theory and I worked on that till 6:30.  At 6:30 I  
made my daughter a cappa to get her going, at 7:00 same for wife, and  
at 7:30 a second one for me with a small part of the triple added to  
one for the ten year old granddaughter.  After I got all three of the  
girls going,  I took the four dogs for a mile walk in the back woods  
area.   I then checked my email and wrote this.
      pecan jim
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21) From: Michael Dhabolt
Jim,
Your research project sounds fascinating.  Any initial gut level
feelings about the results?
The morning started early for me also at 4:30ish I over-rode the timer
on the Astoria and was pulling shots for my morning Capa at 5:15.
Blend of Indonesian Jade, Yemen Sana'ani, and El Salv Orange Bourbon
is going down smooooth.  Got to make another.
Mike (just plain)
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22) From: Brian Kamnetz
Jim,
Sounds like you may be on the way to your second 15 minutes of fame....
Brian
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23) From: Mike Chester

24) From: Mike Chester
Sandy,
What brand of triple basket are you using?  I have a LM basket that I use 
with a bottomless Rancilio PF on my Vetrano, but when I try to put it into 
the Quick Mill PF, it is about 1-2 mm too tall.
BTW - I take it that the dealer repaired your Andrea properly.  If you said 
something about it, I did not see it.  Did you have them put in an upgraded 
PS?
Mike Chester

25) From: Sandy Andina
Today--slept in since I was up till 3 last night.  Houseguest and  
husband had left; father-in-law (whose sprained ankle is better) had  
gone downstairs for breakfast and was already back upstairs in his  
room; son is still asleep (he was up later than I was--the apple  
doesn't fall far....)
Went downstairs.  Switched on LaCora.  Fed the cats.  Took my vites.   
Tidied up and put detritus in appropriate trash/recycling/disposal.  
Made some phone calls.  Prepared breakfast (toad-in-the-hole). Pulled  
hot water into a 6-oz. cappa cup, ground some Red Line, filled PF,  
pulled a double shot into the cup for a double Americano.  Total time  
from switching on LaCora: 40 min.   Enjoying a breve as I type this.
Sandy Andina
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26) From: Sandy Andina
I don't know what brand of triple basket I have--it came with the  
bottomless PF from my Silvia. Never did have to fix the LaCora--I just  
never leave it on for more than 24 hrs at a time, and I steam just  
after pulling, not simultaneously. As a result, I have had no further  
problems with the steam pressure.
Sandy Andina
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27) From: raymanowen
Back in the day, I set the Gralab enlarger timer to 10:00 minutes, I thought
it took about 6 minutes to brew the 8cup Bunn Office pot. On with the timer
and restaurant drip brewer.
I don't remember the exact outcome, but it took a couple of seconds more or
less than 6 minutes after I walked into the kitchen. This was after I
filched a few of the Boyer's breakfast blend packets that I brewed for the
early darkness crew where I worked. Converted later to Kenya AA, both
roasted and green when he sold me a Melitta Aroma Roast.
The Hellacious Mess generated when some of the guys would brew a pot just to
be able to snag the first of the drip stream, was a project there. Clean?
Hell, no- they wanted Seasoned Coffee. (It augmented the dishwater
strength.)
"Oh, no- we don't do it that way- the flavor turns flat..."  I just got
there 15 minutes earlier and put an end to that.
Cheers, iechyd da, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?
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28) From: Bryan Wray
Sandy said:
"(call me a philistine, but I keep the 
Mazzer hopper loaded with whatever espresso blend I happen to be 
using)"
...philistine....
:0)  lol
-Bry
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29) From: Joseph Robertson
Bry,
Did She confuse you?
I have seen it used before but I wasn't sure so I checked with old man
Webster, second definition.
"** a person who is guided by materialism and is usually disdainful of
intellectual or artistic values b*:* one uninformed in a special area of
knowledge"
I'm sure I fall into this category on some coffee related topics.
JoeR
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