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Topic: a clarification, apology, (19 msgs / 499 lines)
1) From: Ranger Tomcat
I should have been more clear as to why I wanted to buy more local- I wanted
to avoid the re-shipping of green beans from Africa to the west coast, only
to have it come all the way back to the east coast. I figured it would cost
less for beans and shipping  too. From what I see with prices outside of SM,
well, my thoughts are wrong. SM has better prices, and and  better info, and
better quality beans, and better QC measures too, so I'll prolly just resign
myself to buying from them after all.
Best Regards,
Tom  Martin
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2) From: Sheila Quinn
You say that like it's a bad thing to buy from Sweet Maria's! For 
goodness sakes, it's the absolute BEST place to get them and I don't 
understand why anyone would be bent on buying from anywhere else. Heck, 
I can get greens from a place only a mile down the road...I talked to a 
roaster who would let me buy them from her. However, I have NEVER done 
so because I think it would be foolish to subject myself to something of 
questionable quality when I know for a fact that anything sold by SM's 
will be only top notch.
If I'm going to take the trouble to roast my own beans to have better 
coffee, why in the world would I start with something inferior or take a 
chance on unknowns? Why bother roasting your own beans at all if you 
don't care about the quality? (Remember that all sellers of greens are 
NOT offering the same stuff.) Is it worth it to sacrifice quality to 
save a measly few dollars on shipping? No way, no how!
Sheila
Tom Martin wrote:
"...so I'll prolly just resign myself to buying from them after all."
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3) From: Bob
Sheila,
imho, you should buy a couple of pounds from the local roaster.
It will prove to you that Sweet Marias beans are the best
around. I used to buy from a local guy at $2.50/lb, on my way
home from work. I now realize how dirty & full of defects his
standard beans were/are!
Bob ~ Parker CO

4) From: Morris Nelson
You get what you pay for. I trust you don't compare Neiman Marcus to
Wal-mart and expect the same quality.

5) From: Edward Bourgeois
I have some damn good roasters with quality beans locally and I'm sure
Tom O. would agree. The reason I buy from Tom and Maria is because I
can't think of another business(of any type) that provide the total
package as well as they do. And they seem to always be trying to
strengthen their weakest links. I get top quality, large selection,
direct trade, COE, etc.,assured and dated freshness, 5 weights with
reduced prices, very reasonable prices, extensive cupping and roast
level notes tailored to homeroasters, reasonable shipping with
options, tons of great useful info in their library, chat list, roast
blog, Stories and photos of where our coffee came from. A photo
gallery with a community section, the coffee archive, all the
additional stuff we need, a pretty post card in every box and the best
for last the friendly personal service.
Ed
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6) From: Jason Riedy
And Sheila Quinn writes:
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No, he stated his reason.  Don't rail on him.  He would prefer his
beans not to be shipped from Africa to CA to the east coast.  He
impugned no ones quality.
Jason, going through similar issues after moving away...
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7) From: Ken B
Hear, hear...You got it exactly right!  But I would add one thing...they 
are internet savvy and understand how to build community from a diverse 
customer base.  (this list, the website, the archives)
Best Regards,
Ken B
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8) From: Jim and Tina Wheeler
Sweet Maria's does the total package very well indeed.  That alone deserves
my loyalty.  The plain fact is that we can trust them to do a good job for a
rather low price.  Nothing wrong with that.
-- 
Jim in Skull Valley
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9) From: Jeff Hayden
When I first got into roasting, I was buying beans from elsewhere on  
the net.  Found some cool people, but ended up getting other people  
into roasting -- kept the SM beans for myself and gave all others  
away.  No one else comes close to providing both the quality of the  
beans as well as the plethora of information so you know what best to  
do with what you've received. . . .
I've been coming back ever since -- until the coffee shelf in my  
pantry collapsed last week under the weight of some 130 lbs. of  
various coffees. . . . (o.k., buying is ok, roasting is ok, but  
hoarding definitely comes at a price)!
Jeff
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10) From: Paul Helbert
Amen. That Sweet Maria's is Best in Class is beyond question. But, Sheila
asks, "Why in the world would I ... take a chance on unknowns?"  That
question is for each to answer on his own. Several of my reasons:
-Occasional reminder (by comparison) of the great work Tom & Co. are doing.
-Support for a local roaster who is a friend.
-Adventure of the unknown.
This last is my main reason. As Sheila correctly suggests, the odds are high
that the beans will be inferior; but there is always the chance of stumbling
across something good. After all, Tom is only one guy. He can't cup ALL the
coffee on the market.
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Paul Helbert
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11) From: raymanowen
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Ranger Tomcat wrote:
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12) From: raymanowen
"I'll prolly just resign myself to buying from them after all."
Will this be soon, or somewhere down the line? Better copyright the wheel
once you re-invent it. -ro
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13) From: John and Emma
I completely agree with Ed. I don't have anyone locally that I know of but
before coming to SM I did a lot of research on the net. I know there are
several places I can get beans and some in Canada but NO ONE offers the
complete package. The reason SM is the only place I'll support is for those
reasons that Ed mentions below. Why waste your time and money. Besides I
want SM to be around for many years to come and if everyone bounces around,
buying from whoever, wherever, and has no loyalty then Tom and Maria may
have no choice but to close their doors and that I would not want to be a
part of.
John H.

14) From: Sheila Quinn
I agree, too. I think we need to support someone who is providing us 
with such a great service! Nobody else works as hard as they do to 
provide the best for us, in every way possible. Yes, I've tried small 
quantities of beans from elsewhere, but I've been mostly unimpressed. 
There were a couple that were pretty good, but in the end...I remain 
loyal to Sweet Maria's for those same reasons stated by others here. I 
really appreciate everything they do!
Sheila
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15) From: Larry Williams
Thank God this is one small business Walmart can't gobble up. 
Larry Williams
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16) From: Joseph Robertson
Customer loyalty is what makes the world go around for retailers. The
challenge for Tom and others like him is maintaining QC and customer
support. Right now Tom is top in his class and one of the best examples for
others to emulate.
Thank you Tom for setting the bar so high.
JoeR
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17) From: Brian Kamnetz
I still vividly remember the feeling of horror a couple years ago when
I read on this list that Tom and Maria had sold their business. Of
course, the news turned out to be a "funny" April Fools Day joke.
Brian
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18) From: Dean De Crisce
whoa...i thought I was bad. 
Dean De Crisce
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19) From: Sandy Andina
I'm down to under 20 lbs. at this point--good thing, because keeping  
my stash lean and mean also keeps it fresher.  Discovered some 2+-yr- 
old Guatemalan decaf and roasted up a 1/4 lb., with more than a little  
trepidation; to my relief, it was not at all "baggy."
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