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Topic: Behmor poll (104 msgs / 2204 lines)
1) From: Alchemist John
Calling all Behmor (and other) users.
1)      I am curious, does anyone use the 1/4 lb setting?  Seems I 
hear most use either 8, 12 or 16 oz.
2)      Also, if you could "give up" smoke suppression (I am playing 
with mods) for more dynamic profiles (it uses 600 Watts of power 
after all) would you?
Me:
1)      No.  8, (12) most common), 16
2)      Yes.  I roast in my shop.
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2) From: David Rossell
1)  Use the 1 lb. setting almost exclusively.
2)  Not crazy about giving up smoke suppression since I roast in my kitchen,
but I could be persuaded.
David Rossell
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Bethesda, MD 20817
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3) From: Seth Grandeau
1) no, mostly 8 and 10 2/3 (2/3 lb)
2) absolutely not.  I roast indoors and the smoke suppressor is a godsend.
Also, I have not found the 5 profiles to be limiting my enjoyment of the
resulting coffee.
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4) From: Dave Huddle
John,
I do use the 1/4 lb setting sometimes with 4 oz. of greens.
When I use the 1/2 lb or 1 lb settings I  _ALWAYS_ weigh out the
corresponding amount of beans.
Although I roast under a vent hood in the laundry room, I prefer to
keep the smoke suppression.
Dave
Westerville, OH
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5) From: John Mac
1) Always roast a 1/2 lb at the 1 lb setting but did a 1/4 lb roast once.
2) Sure, it's only smoke and it goes away after a few minutes. I roast
inside and out the house depending on the weather here in Nor Cal.
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6) From: Gary Foster
Never use the 1/4 lb setting.
Absolutely won't give up the suppressor.
-- Gary F.
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7) From: Mark Sellers
1)  Never use this setting
2)  I roast in the garage, so suppression isn't a must-have.  Tried in the house, but too much aroma.
 
Mark
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Calling all Behmor (and other) users.
1)      I am curious, does anyone use the 1/4 lb setting?  Seems I 
hear most use either 8, 12 or 16 oz.
2)      Also, if you could "give up" smoke suppression (I am playing 
with mods) for more dynamic profiles (it uses 600 Watts of power 
after all) would you?
Me:
1)      No.  8, (12) most common), 16
2)      Yes.  I roast in my shop.
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8) From: Edward Bourgeois
Question  It seems getting rid of smoke suppression to use those
available watts for roasting would have to be combined with much
better STE (system transfer efficiency). As it is the thermostat will
kick the heat off  at times as the beans are not able to access and
absorb it quickly enough.
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9) From: Ken Schillinger
I have never used the 1/4 LB setting.
I would not want to lose the smoke suppression.
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10) From: Alchemist John
True enough statement.  Via non-warranty hack mode, if you insert a 
1-2 kohm resistor into thermistor circuit you will increase the 
roaster chamber set points around 40-60 F.  Makes quite the 
difference.  In that situation, P1 never cycles off as it's thresh 
hold is 2.1 kohms and the system simply can not get hot enough to 
produce a thermistor signal of 0.1 kohms.
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11) From: Alchemist John
Keep them coming folks, please.  I am seeing quite the pattern here :)
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12) From: Paul Helbert
I would appreciate more control of the roast as well as a retrofit kit or
option for the 1600.
(1) Never have used the 1/4 # setting. Always weight the greens and use less
than the button's indication. I see no need for the A,B,C,D buttons since
the time is independently settable.
(2) I roast in my garage (which still has no doors). I might appreciate
being able to smell the smoke. Could the smoke reduction feature be (ON/OFF)
selectable?
In my opinion, the thing doesn't need more power, but could be improved with
more on-the-fly and initial control.
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13) From: Joseph Robertson
Yes on the smoke. But could you design it in as an option or switch?
JoeR
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14) From: Rich
#1 - NO,  I bought it as a 1lb roaster and only use the 1lb setting.
#2 - NO,  I roast in the climate controlled house.  If I wanted smoke I 
would be using the big SS bowl and the Master Appliance HG-751 out in 
the mosquito infested garage.
Thanks for asking.
Rich
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15) From: Sheila Quinn
I use only the 1/2 and 1 lb. modes. Haven't had the need for anything 
else! I wouldn't want to do without the smoke suppression because in the 
winter when it's too cold in the garage, I have to bring the roaster 
into the house. I don't have adequate venting to suck the smoke outside.
The one thing I've always wished for is a bell or alarm that would go 
off when there is only one minute left. Yes, I realize we're supposed to 
attend to the machine at all times. I'm around it, but I'm not sitting 
there staring at it! I sometimes get distracted and wander into the yard 
to pull weeds, water flowers, or whatever while I wait for my coffee to 
finish. Would be nice to know the time is almost up in case I need to 
add more time to the roast. I do use a stand-alone timer to warn me, but 
a built-in one (with the ability to shut it off, of course!) would be 
better.
Has anyone else ever thought that would be nice, too?
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16) From: Alchemist John
I know it is hackable in that regard so I don't see why not.
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17) From: Bonnie Polkinghorn
1) I never use the 1/4 lb setting, even if I am roasting 1/4 lb.
2) I'm on the fence about the smoke suppression, but I am curious about more
dynamic profiles
-Bonnie P.
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18) From: Alchemist John
Not to distract the initial two questions too much, on that note, any 
other 'wants' for the Behmor?
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19) From: David Rossell
Some way to determine bean temperature!
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20) From: Rich
Why yes, now that you asked,  more total time on all of the profiles.
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21) From: Les
Never use the 1/4 pound setting.  I like the smoke suppression.  As you know
I roast in the garage, so I could live without it.  What amazes me is how
little smoke I get with my USRC due to the length of the pipe that lead to
the chaff collector, and the resulting temperature drop that seems to
eliminate the smoke.  My thought is that some type of piping on the Behmor
might work as a smoke suppressor without using electricity.  As long as we
are discussing hacking!
Les
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22) From: Benjamin VerHage
1) I did once when I was running low on beans and didn't want to roast a 1/=
2# because I was leaving for vacation the next day. Other than that I have =
done all 1/2# roasts. I think in the future if I wanted to roast smaller ba=
tches I would use the 1/2# setting on P2.
2) Not right now since I'm in a condo w/o a garage. If I had a garage or sh=
op, probably.
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Subject: [Homeroast] Behmor poll
Calling all Behmor (and other) users.
1)      I am curious, does anyone use the 1/4 lb setting?  Seems I =
hear most use either 8, 12 or 16 oz.
2)      Also, if you could "give up" smoke suppression (I am playing =
with mods) for more dynamic profiles (it uses 600 Watts of power =
after all) would you?
Me:
1)      No.  8, (12) most common), 16
2)      Yes.  I roast in my shop.
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23) From: Stephen Carey
Yes on keeping the 1/4 pound, I learned on that and felt it worked 
well for me, though, I would have learned on whatever was in front of 
me, I guess.
And a very strong YES to the smoke suppression.
My couple of cents.
Stephen
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24) From: Seth Grandeau
I saw this mentioned on another thread and would love it as a feature...On
P2, the ability to manually activate the temp dip, rather than having it go
off at a specified time.
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25) From: John and Emma
Hi John,
1) No. I mostly use 1/2lb and really wanted the 1lb capability for when I
start to roast for gifts.
2) No. I roast in my kitchen and this is a big plus for me.
Additions - Someway of measuring bean temperature and being able to adjust
this manually.
John H.

26) From: Joseph Robertson
John,
If nothing else, been temp would be very nice.
I second that request.
JoeR
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27) From: Brian Salwasser
 I use 1# almost exclusively so I don't hit the end of the roast too early
when I roast 8-12 oz. (I also reduce the time of the roast before I begin).
I wouldn't mind being able to turn off the smoke suppression for when I
roast on my patio, but in the winter months it comes in quite handy.
I do think that overall more control over the roast process would be great
with the Behmor.  I've been trying to do 1/2 # roasts on P1, log it, and
then time P2 to drop down to 70% right before first crack.  But, I've been
finding the timing of first crack to vary significantly with the same bean
at the same weight.
Brian
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28) From: Mike Smith
1)  Have not yet used the 1/4 lb but can see myself using it in the future.
  2)  I roast on occassions in the kitchen and the garage so I appreciate the smoke suppression system on the Behmor.
   
  The idea of having a switch to start the lower power phase on profile P2 seems like a great idea.
   
  Most of my roasts are 14-16 ozs on 1lb using the P3.
   
  Mike S
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  Calling all Behmor (and other) users.
1) I am curious, does anyone use the 1/4 lb setting? Seems I 
hear most use either 8, 12 or 16 oz.
2) Also, if you could "give up" smoke suppression (I am playing 
with mods) for more dynamic profiles (it uses 600 Watts of power 
after all) would you?
Me:
1) No. 8, (12) most common), 16
2) Yes. I roast in my shop.
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29) From: George Miller
I don't use the 1/4 pound settings.
I want the smoke suppression
On wants, a way to measure bean temp and a way to store a couple of our own
profiles
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30) From: Ira
Never use anything but 1 lb and then adjust the time. Mine seems to 
run cold so anything else and  sometimes I run out of time even with 
the 11 or 12 ounces I generally roast.
I like the suppression, but I do roast on the porch and would give it 
up if there was a dramatic improvement in the roast.
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31) From: Ira
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I want to be able to adjust the temperature as it seems like mine 
runs cold. You're comment about adding a resistor is very intriguing 
as I think that would improve my roasters operation quite a 
bit.  When the warranty expires.
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32) From: Edward Bourgeois
Having the profile changes be triggered by bean temp. rather than
time. Increased convection and circulation by increasing drum speed
and possibly adding squirrel cage blower type scoop fins on the
outside of the drum. Spreading the heating elements and/or dividing
the wattage to 3 elements spreading and increasing the area of
radiance.
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33) From: Paul Helbert
Long ago (for this list that's a couple of months) we discussed having the
timer count from zero rather than from final time. I use an outboard timer
so that is no longer important to me. It still is a bit confusing when I
have to add extra time on the fly.
I'd rather have a temperature readout than the present time setup. Shouldn't
be too hard since there is a already a thermocouple behind those three
vertical screws.
I second the idea of being able to manually toggle power reduction, a la P2,
at any time.
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34) From: Paul Helbert
Whoops. That doesn't look like a thermocouple. Has wire out each end. must
be a thermistor? Oh, well, A thermocouple could be mounted there or at some
useful point. It wouldn't be bean temperature, but it might be a useful
reference.
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35) From: Barry Luterman
Bought it as a one pound roaster. I don't have a grill and don't want
one. Otherwise would have gotten an RK. I
like roasting in house. Bought it as a back -up for my Hottop. It has
become my primary roaster now. It is too much of a hastle to carry my
Hottop outside and attach it to a extension cord.
If I could ask for one improvement it would be a Tryer.
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36) From: Gordon
1) When I first got my Behmor, I did use the 1/4 pound setting, but 
lately have been using the 1/2 pound setting when doing a 1/4 pound 
batch.
2) Since I roast outside or in the garage, I could do without the 
smoke suppression feature.
3) I would like to have a "count-up" digital display (like a 
stopwatch), instead of the current count-down version, i.e., the 
display would read "00:00" before Start is pressed and show total 
elapsed time at the end of the roast.
Gordon
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37) From: Barry Luterman
Actually I use the 1/4 pound setting when I run the machine to clean
it after every 5th roast.
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38) From: Samiel Wong
1) no     12-16
2) yes  mod would be nice
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39) From: Sandy Andina
1) only on soft beans for light (C) roasts--in other words, hardly  
ever; I use 1/2 lb, for 116 gm. of beans, and 1 lb. for 232-348 gm.
2) no--I roast in my kitchen and do not have a venting range hood (and  
am unwilling to futz with my windows to vent directly through them in  
winter)
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40) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
I have run it without the catalytic converter, and it really does 
make a difference. You may (or may not) be surprised how much smoke 
1/2 Lb of coffee can make at some roast levels, and 1 Lb can be 
shocking! I wonder if a new design could incorporate a bypass that 
would relate to a specific "profile" - so people would have the 
option to use that particular "high power" profile, or not, depending 
on their situation. It would add another layer of versatility to the 
Behmor, and make it more attractive. Better cooling would make it a 
better roaster too!!! Hop Top still kicks all other roasters behinds 
in terms of cooling.
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41) From: Sandy Andina
Love to see an LCD or LED readout of the selected roast curve graph's  
progress, a la those programmable exercycles and treadmills. Also a  
loud beep when there are two minutes and again one minute left, and a  
temp readout even if we can't adjust temp.
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42) From: Robert Yoder
I agree that a manual toggle for heat reduction would be A Good Thing.
 
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43) From: Robert Yoder
Thanks for doing this, John!
 
My roasts are typically 3.2 oz at the 1/2 pound setting. 
 
Never used the 1/4 pound button.  
 
I like having the smoke suppression but it rarely comes into play because I choose light roasts most of the time.  Having it switchable would be great, since switching it off might speed cooling, which I would also like to see. 
 
Never used the Program Buttons (A - D). 
 
A Manual Throttle-down Control (cf P2) would be VERY useful.
 
Selectable Temperature Ramps would be great.
 
Environment Temp Gauge Possible.
 
Bean Mass Temp Gauge (but I don't see a simple way to do that, given the mounting of the drum).
 
Faster Cooling (but see the Switchable Smoke Suppression thought).
 
I am really interested in where this might be going!
 
regards,
 
robert yoder
 
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44) From: John and Emma
I like the read out mentioned below. During roasting the heating elements
turn on and off to maintain the appropriate temp the read out would take the
guess work out of when the temp drop occurred while using P2. 
John H.

45) From: Gregg Talton
Never use 1/4 pound
Would give up smoke suppression for the additional power since mine seems to
run cool.
I would LOVE to know the temps while roasting.
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46) From: Dean De Crisce
Use 1/2 pound and 1 pound only.
I need the smoke suppression...but it depends on what could be offerred in its place.
Dean De Crisce
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47) From: Dean De Crisce
The abilty to cut power levels on the fly.
Also counting up...not down.
Dean De Crisce
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48) From: kevin creason
I follow John!
Except in the carport, with the Behmor.
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49) From: kevin creason
Besides bean temperature, how about flipping between count up and count
down?
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50) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
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1) 1/4# only for cleaning every 5th cycle.  80% of the time I use 1#, 
the remaining 20% I'll use 1/2#.
2) No.  Even with suppression, my smoke detectors will be triggered 
about 20% of the time.  I *need* the smoke suppression.  If I'm going to 
roast outdoors, then I haul out the BM/HG.
Thanks,
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51) From: Gregg Talton
A Behmor with the Gene Cafe Controls...
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52) From: Bob Hazen
I never use the 1/4 lb setting.  I did a couple of times when I first 
received the roaster, but not since.  Almost always I run 1/2 lb of greens 
on the 1lb setting.  Occasionally, I run 1lb of greens on the 1lb setting 
but with P1 or maybe P3.
I would happily give up the smoke suppression for more control over the 
profiles.  I put my roaster on top of the range under the exhaust hood, so 
it matters not to me.  Besides, as the roaster has gained hours, I think the 
suppression has nearly gone away.  I get a lot of smoke even with light 
roasts.  Fortunately it's swallowed up by the range hood.
Bob
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53) From: Dean De Crisce
The abilty to cut power levels on the fly.
Also counting up...not down.
Dean De Crisce
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54) From: Bob Hazen
Straight manual control.  The existing profiles show that 70%, 80%, 85%, 
90%, 95% and 100% power are available, presumably switched in or out by 
digital circuitry.  I'm guessing the roaster doesn't have continuous 
control, but these discrete settings would be useful if they could be set 
from the front panel.  Let an external timer be your guide and just set the 
power level at the time you want.
The existing design has time limits to protect us from ourselves.  Since 
there's likely a microcontroller in there already, it wouldn't be too tough 
to use it to integrate the power level over time and not let the roast go 
for too hot/too long in order to meet ETL safety requirements.
(yes, my car has a manual transmission....)
Bob
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55) From: Eddie Dove
1) I never use the 1/4 pound setting and have no use for it.
2) Yes, I would forgo the smoke suppression for better profile
controls, especially complete control
Other thoughts and perhaps wishful thinking ...
1) Perhaps replace the 1/4 pound capability with 3/4 pound capability
2) If the temps can be boosted a bit, it would be great to have 1
pound of coffee post roast.
3) Similar to Ed's suggestion, a long fan in the top of the back that
would move the hot air toward the drum; perhaps with speed control
5) Perhaps assist the cooling process via a fan moving air through
some coils filled with something with refrigerant properties (or some
method of cooling), thereby injecting cool / cold air into the
roasting chamber.  This is just a thought and I have no idea whether
or not it is feasible.
6) Building on Les' contribution of smoke abatement via plumbing,
maybe the Behmor could be fitted with the Bose 80" waveguide chamber
to accomplish the same without increasing it's footprint.
Eddie
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56) From: Joseph Robertson
John,
I see some common needs and wishes here.
One more thought that I did see mentioned at least once is better visibility
like your mod of cutting a hole in the chaff basket. I spoke with Joe B and
I think he mentioned that better visibility was coming in future releases.
JoeR
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57) From: Steven Van Dyke
Just reading the thread it sounds like what people want is a Behmor 
with the Gene Cafe's twin knobs - one to adjust the time and one for 
temp, both adjustable at any time.
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58) From: Morris Nelson
Kind of like a '48 DeSoto with an automatic transmission and a clutch.
I have a couple of Gene Café's and seldom roast the same pattern twice.  I
start out with the same pattern, but depending upon the roast and the bean,
it's different.
What would be great is if the roaster had a "remember last time" feature.
Morris

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60) From: Jim Anderson
John,
I never use 1/4 LB. One of the main reasons I bought the Behmor is for the
larger capacity.
Since I roast outside, giving up smoke suppression is fine.
I would like to have a bit more light, but adding a larger bulb or a second
one would use more power and that seems to be going the opposite direction
from what you are doing here.
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61) From: Warren and Carolyn
 1. I never use the 1/4 lb setting.
2. I would give up smoke suppression, although it seems I am in the 
minority here.
I have another one that runs cold. I have never been able to roast a 
full lb. I roast 1/2 lb on P1 on the 1 lb setting. I modified it by 
closing off the vents somewhat with heat tolerant electrical tape. The 
tape peeled off recently, and now it takes even longer-about 14 minutes 
to first crack for 1/2 lb. (it was about 12-13 with the tape).
I would like a temperature reading, but only if it was meaningful.
Better light would be good. The present light is pretty much useless for 
judging anything.
Love to know where this survey is going!
Warren
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62) From: Seth Grandeau
Just curious if anyone will be using the 1/4 lb setting with the Big $$$
geshas... :)
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63) From: John Mac
I will if the test roasts with the $ beans leads me in that direction.But I
seriously doubt it as my roasts are always 1/2 pounders and I feel the most
comfortable with my B1600 at this batch size.
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64) From: Justin Marquez
There is a mod posted somewhere about the light situation. It involves
cutting two "windows" in the chaff screen - one right inside the left side
of the screen ringht behind the window to give a better view of the drum and
the other cuts a rectangular slot in the upper flat part underneath the
light to let more of it shine out on the drum.
A simpler solution is to roast in the dark.
:-)
You can have a meaningful temperature reading by buying a digital
thermocouple device (Sweet Maria's has 'em, Home Despot has 'em. I bought
one at HD for less than 30 bucks) and threading the TC carefully thru the
door seal next to the chaff collector. Just make sure it won't get tangled
in anything moving! BUT -  Since you can't control the temp, what good does
it do to read it?
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
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65) From: Sandy Andina
I just did 116 gm. (i.e., 1/4 lb.) of India Premium Robusta Peaberry  
(for my Rocket Fuel*) at the 1/2 lb. setting, P1, adding the max. time  
(12 min. in all).  Should have gotten me to FC++ or even Vienna.   
Instead, it never made it all the way through first crack (certainly  
not to second).  Gonna give it another go on the 1/4 lb. setting, P1,  
B program and watch it like a hawk--that ought to get me to FC+, if  
not ++.  Stay tuned.
*roasted the rest of the blend--Brazil Poco Fundo, Java Monsooned  
Arabica IMV, Sumatra Org. Mand., a handful of Yemen Mocha Sana'ani-- 
yesterday.
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66) From: Ira
At 05:28 PM 7/31/2008, you wrote:
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This is why I never choose anything but 1 pound and then drop the 
time, that way I can add time if needed. Does this mean there is a 
batch of Behmors that are calibrated wrong?  There is no way with 
mine I could hit P1 add a pound of coffee and expect it to be even 
close to roasted enough for drinking and yet others here do that and 
it works perfect.
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67) From: Sandy Andina
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I've found that this seems to have happened after a couple of too-dark  
roasts (including a fire) that probably darkened the sensor (I'm using  
Whole Foods' natural cleaner, but maybe I *do* need genuine Simple  
Green, which seems to have done the trick for many on this list).  I  
am also using an extension cord, on an old circuit, so the voltage is  
not what it could be. (The roaster's cord is short and anywhere in my  
house in proximity to an outlet on a newer circuit is an inconvenient  
or unsafe location).   By contrast, my i-Roasts always ran hot.
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68) From: Rich
That is a question that I would like to hear the answer to also.  I have 
never had a problem but many have and there should be a simple answer.
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69) From: Alchemist John
Answer - no, he has ruled out bad or mis-calibrated thermistors.  As 
I said with another email, if in doubt, call or contact Behmor to 
help get the roaster working correcting.
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70) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
Me
1) No, 151 grams (1/3 lb) most commonly, also half pound
2) no, but I may be able to be convinced.
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71) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
My earlier post was incomplete and not accurate. Sorry. It is  
corrected below.
Me
1) No, I almost always use the 1 pound setting to give myself maximum  
flexibility. I roast 151 grams (1/3 lb) most commonly, also half  
pound. I do adjust the start time so 1st crack occurs about the time  
the power goes down on P2
2) no, but I may be able to be convinced.
dave
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72) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
I like this suggestion.
dave
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73) From: Jim Anderson
As long as we are wishing, here's something that I think would be really
helpful. If there was a way to tell when the unit switched from one heat
level to another. LED's, or a bar graph maybe. I know you can figure this
out by percentage of time, but to be able to look at something when first
crack starts and ends and see what part of the heat profile the machine is
using would make adjusting the roast for the next time much easier.
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74) From: Ira
At 07:21 AM 7/30/2008, you wrote:
Well, a new used downloaded BehmorThing and both started using, 
breaking and commenting on it.  It's much better than last week and 
I'm as always, grateful for the feedback.
But it did bring up something that's been discussed before and just 
became a "problem" for me with the design of the Behmor.
The clock on the Behmor counts down and so everything I do assumes 
that it's based on counting down. I've always wished it would count 
up which would make this one thing easier.  I've put 2 buttons on 
BehmorThing which mark the time at which first and second crack 
happen. You press the button and I record the time. Problem is if 
first crack happens and then you add a minute to the roast the first 
crack time is not wrong. So I guess I have to record it counting up 
which I can do.
But it dawns on me that the reason it counts down is it's the only 
way to display remaining time and allow the user to see the time 
they've added or subtracted in real time, otherwise it needs two 
displays, one for time passed and one for total time. So unless he 
changes the display or the concept that it's a set it and forget it 
roaster, it needs to count down.
So now Behmor thing records the time into the roast that first and 
second crack happened and you need to figure out when that is on the display.
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75) From: Bob Hazen
I've been using a cheapo digital kitchen timer to count elapsed time.  The 
Behmor will alert me if I start getting too close to the end of the program. 
I would think it would have been simple for Joe to use a elapsed time 
display and let it blink like it does now when it get in range of the end. 
Could be done with a software tweak.
Bob

76) From: Ira
At 03:02 PM 8/5/2008, you wrote:
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Yes, but if it starts flashing at 1 minute to go counting up, is it 1 
minute left or 5 seconds left when you glance over and notice the 
flashing. Do you have to dive to extend the time or press cool or is 
it OK to let it go. Counting up you'll never know.
Counting up is the right answer if you expect the user to be paying 
constant attention and to be responsible for initiating the cooling 
cycle, counting down is the correct answer if you expect a more 
passive user.  If it counted up I wouldn't expect it to turn off automatically.
Given Joe's target he made the correct choice, given how some of us 
want to use it, we think it would be better the other way.
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77) From: Ira
At 07:21 AM 7/30/2008, you wrote:
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So I just did a test in my Behmor. 8 ounces of Brazil Cerrado Dry 
Process Lot 242, set to P1 1LB.
First crack started at 12:15 and seemed to last to 13:40 or so, 
second started at 17:00 when I stopped the roast.
I also noticed that the clock on my Behmor picks up about 4 seconds 
over 10 minutes.
It seems like this is way slower than other people are reporting.
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78) From: Floyd Lozano
1) I don't yet, only because 1/4# is too little for me to consume over
the course of a few days, and i'm just not that patient - if i want to
taste coffee at day 5, i need more than 5 days worth of coffee ;)  I
can't wait!
2) I'd give up 'always on' smoke suppression, for when i'm roasting
out...er... um.  in 'smoke-tolerant' conditions and locations ;)
I'll tell you what i'd love to see on this: LCD instead of LED!  Then
I could read my Behmor display even out... er. in um....brightly lit
conditions...
-F
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79) From: raymanowen
Here's an article on making your own
thermocouples.
Be first on your block to have a Behmor with your own pyrometer design. -ro
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80) From: Paul Helbert
WooHoo!  At $689.00, a hundred of us could make a group purchase and pass
the **Hotspot I Welder 10-A10120 around. I'd be in for $10.00 to cover one
share with shipping.
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81) From: raymanowen
I've seen some 20X too large Miller TIG welders go for $450 at auctions. A
friend bought a couple of them for his shop, and I got to clean up the mag
amp controls so it could do stable arcs down to 0.5 amp at high frequency.
Might be able to set up a decent metal shop with a few auction trips- real
auctions, not eBay.
What do we know about moving equipment from place to place? Not a hot idea.
Just find someone with space, metal working skill and the proclivity of
trading labor for beans or fresh roast!
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
If some fool wants to try eBay, illegitimus non carborundum- Don't say I
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82) From: Ira
At 07:21 AM 7/30/2008, you wrote:
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Well, I called Behmor tech support and they sent me a picture showing 
how to take the heat deflector off and slightly bend a piece of metal 
and it's like a whole different roaster.  If your Behmor seems slow, 
make sure to call them and ask.
Ira
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83) From: Bonnie Polkinghorn
Ira,
May I ask how much time improvement you are seeing after the fix?
I made that fix about a week ago, and I have shaved 4 minutes off of the
time to first crack.
I'm still not sure I can roast 1/2 lb on P2 set at 1/2 lb, but like you
said, it is like having a whole new roaster.
It may be my imagination, but the coffee tastes better, too!
-Bonnie P.
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84) From: John Mac
Ira,
Save us all a call and spill the beans on this mod.
Thanks!
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85) From: Ira
At 03:59 PM 8/11/2008, you wrote:
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Last week I did 8 ounces that took 17 minutes to get to second crack. 
Today I did 12 ounces and it took 16 minutes to get to second crack 
so it's to the point I can stop worrying about running out of time. 
Clearly it's not a voltage issue because I had 1V less today than I 
did last week.  I think I might be able to use P2 finally.
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86) From: Alchemist John
I have been playing with another air flow modification, and have had 
my shortest (I hesitate to say best) P1 roast to date.  12 mins to 
1st, 16 to 2nd, 1 lb.
I very subtly opened up the air holes on the right side.  Slipped a 
straight bladed screw driver in and pried each open just a tad.
I am going to try it on a few more I have around and see how consistent it is.
I agree with you, slow roasters are not a voltage problem in 95 % of the cases.
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87) From: raymanowen
"...slow roasters are not a voltage problem in 95 % of the cases."
I've had a lot of experience and made a lot of money repairing and modifying
electric resistance heated conveyor dryers for screen printers. The goal was
to heat the ink and substrate fabric to 325° F for 60 seconds to effect a
total cure without scorching the fabric or burning the ink.
I modified a big IR heated dryer here in Denver town to add convection heat,
that doesn't depend on color, intensity or surface smoothness for energy
transfer.
Yellow Fright evidently dribbled the *!!#$? thing all the way to Cleveland.
Made me sick to see the pile of nearly scrap metal when they flew me in to
restore it. The customer wouldn't hear of "caseless hope, RIP."  I had to
fix it, "We can't replace it, one of a kind," [at the time] and all....
After two solid weeks rebuilding everything, it turned out their 208v three
phase power was only sufficient to run the building's elevator, and dropped
to 185v or so under the 30a heat load on a business day.
 Worked OK for me on the Sunday, but wouldn't get hot enough Monday morning
when I was going to put on a show 'n tell for the shop. The other businesses
in the area were all using power.
"Mr. C, the ball is in your court- get at least 250a 208v service, and have
them put the transformer nest right beside the building, not 100 yards
away."
Amazing- a pre-fab pad was placed and three transformers were humming by
5pm. Unbelievable. The dryer ran like Gangbusters and I still made the
scheduled flight back to Stapleton!
The Behmor uses electrical power to roast coffee. No volts = No roast, 10=
0%
of the time.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
You come across, the Behmor will come across, guaranteed. Bring Volts to the
roasting party.
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88) From: Ira
At 05:25 PM 8/11/2008, you wrote:
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Given that you have to remove 5 screws and poke at the insides and 
bend something, I'd rather you got it from them.  Also, if lots of 
people ask Behmor is more likely to perceive a problem and solve if. 
Hopefully as an upgrade for us. When my warranty runs out I'll add a 
knob to let me set the extra heat on the fly. I guess done properly 
that would allow me to simulate P2 on the P1 setting as it could let 
me make it hotter or colder.
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89) From: Alchemist John
I am not sure how this relates.  It is true the Behmor (or any 
electric roaster) uses electricity, but time and again it has been 
shown (about 95% of the time) that the slow or cool roasters are not 
because of low power or voltage.  How do I make that conclusion?  The 
elements cycle.  If they stayed on 100% of the time (on P1), the I 
would agree it is low power, but they don't.  They cycle more than 
usual, indicating the thermistor thinks the system is up to 
temp.  Clearly enough voltage.
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90) From: Ira
At 12:50 PM 8/12/2008, you wrote:
If at the voltage I have the element is only on 75% of the time then 
the voltage can drop a fair amount and only effect the initial ramp 
so while conceptually you're correct, the Behmor seems to have a fair 
amount of excess capacity and so it's slow roasting seems to be a 
temperature measurement issue on it's part, not a lack of heat.
Ira
P.S., remember, some of us really are as knowledgeable as you are 
about some of this stuff.
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91) From: Robert Yoder
Does this suggest a way to adjust temp on the fly by adjusting a properly-selected resistor added to the thermistor circuit?  Could the value be selected so as to permit increase AND decrease in roasting temperature?  This might be even better than the manual toggle mentioned earlier.
 
I am totally free to conjecture, having no EE or otherwise relevant credentials, of course!
 
Happy Hypothesizing,
 
robert yoder> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:25:48 -0700> From: johnt.mac> To: homeroast> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Behmor poll> > Ira,> Save us all a call and spill the beans on this mod.> Thanks!> > > On 8/11/08, Ira  wrote:> >> > At 07:21 AM 7/30/2008, you wrote:> >> >> True enough statement. Via non-warranty hack mode, if you insert a 1-2> >> kohm resistor into thermistor circuit you will increase the roaster chamber> >> set points around 40-60 F. Makes quite the difference. In that situation,> >> P1 never cycles off as it's thresh hold is 2.1 kohms and the system simply> >> can not get hot enough to produce a thermistor signal of 0.1 kohms.> >>> >> > Well, I called Behmor tech support and they sent me a picture showing how> > to take the heat deflector off and slightly bend a piece of metal and it's> > like a whole different roaster. If your Behmor seems slow, make sure to> > call them and ask.> >> > Ira> >> > Homeroast mailing list> > Homeroast> >> >http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20>>>> Homeroast mailing list> Homeroast>http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.com>Homeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contesthttp://www.gowindowslive.com/summergames?ocidT_TAGHMHomeroast mailing list">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.com>> Homeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :> >http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20>>>> Homeroast mailing list> Homeroast>http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.com>Homeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contesthttp://www.gowindowslive.com/summergames?ocidT_TAGHMHomeroast mailing list
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92) From: Robert Yoder
Thanks for your help on this stuff, John,
 
With the cycling of the heating elements (from 0 to 100% duty cycle) can something like a Kill A Watt be used to observe program inflection points?
 
Happy Roasting,
 
robert yoder> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:25:38 -0700> To: homeroast> From: John> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Behmor poll> > I am not sure how this relates. It is true the Behmor (or any > electric roaster) uses electricity, but time and again it has been > shown (about 95% of the time) that the slow or cool roasters are not > because of low power or voltage. How do I make that conclusion? The > elements cycle. If they stayed on 100% of the time (on P1), the I > would agree it is low power, but they don't. They cycle more than > usual, indicating the thermistor thinks the system is up to > temp. Clearly enough voltage.> > At 12:50 8/12/2008, you wrote:> > >The Behmor uses electrical power to roast coffee. No volts = No roast, 100%> >of the time.> > > John Nanci> AlChemist at large> Zen Roasting , Hand Grinding, Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalt>http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/>>
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93) From: Alchemist John
Agreed.  I was responding to RayO who I read as indicating that it 
was a voltage issue without question.  Of course others are 
knowledgeable about some of this stuff (to use your phrase), but 
seeming to indicate it was a voltage issue, I wanted to point out why 
it most likely is not the case.
At 14:25 8/12/2008, you wrote:
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94) From: raymanowen
"some of us really are as knowledgeable as you are about some of this
stuff."
Exactly, and many are much more so. That's where I learn, but I don't seek
to learn more things so much as to learn to imagine and apply math and the
sciences to ideas.
In the example, 25% power loss might still work, but that's only 13% voltage
loss.
Cheers and thanks -RayO, aka Opa!
If we're having a roasting party, bring volts...
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95) From: Edward Bourgeois
Wouldn't a "Kill a Watt" meter set on watts show the total  being used
at points when just the elements are on and when the afterburner is on
too?
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Alchemist John
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96) From: Ira
At 02:51 PM 8/12/2008, you wrote:
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It does, thought it might require an active circuit to cool it down. 
I've not taken it apart to connect a scope and see how it works.
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97) From: Ira
At 04:10 PM 8/12/2008, you wrote:
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But I'm the one with the Behmor with problems and you're not.
Ira
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98) From: Ira
At 04:12 PM 8/12/2008, you wrote:
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Yes, Mine shows the following 4 possibilities, numbers are only guesses.:
50  fan only
600 fan and afterburner
950 fan and heater
1500 fan heater and afterburner
Ira
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99) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
Ira wrote:
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Looks like I need to call them Monday and ask about this.  Roasted a 
pound of Kona this afternoon ... I've done Kona's in this roaster before 
and don't recall having this level of difficulty. :(  From my roasting 
log ...
--------------------------------------
Roughly 3:35 pm, Roasted indoors
Batch 114 (Behmor 34) -
     Profile: 1#, P1, B, ++ = 20:30
     470g green, 370g roasted + no waste (-21.3%)
     33m 35s plus cooling.
First Crack started at 18m 44s and started actually rolling at 19m 20s, 
but the system kicked into COOL while First was still well underway.  
Upon completion, the beans really looked way too light, no where near 
even a City roast.  So I attempted my first ever re-roast.  1#, P1, A 
for 18:00.  First Crack resumed at 12m 10s (into the 2nd roast) but 
Second Crack kicked off with a rolling bang 40s later and I immediately 
hit COOL.  But Second Crack was really rolling and by the time the 
cooling process stopped the roast, it was over roasted.  Beans are dark 
with a a matte sheen to them, but there's no actual oils on the 
surface.  I'm hoping it's closer to Full City+, but I suspect it's more 
towards a Vienna roast.  What a shame to do that to a Kona. :(
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100) From: Alchemist John
Ira, what heat deflector are you speaking about?  That is nothing 
that rings a bell with the conversations I have had with Joe.
At 14:24 8/16/2008, you wrote:
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101) From: Ira
At 07:12 PM 8/16/2008, you wrote:
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Don't know what to call it. The piece of metal on the back that's 
silver colored, got round holes in it and is held on with 5 screws.
Ira
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102) From: Rich
Maybe a more technical term would help: shiny steel dohicus on the back 
with holes in it that hot air blows out of.
Ira wrote:
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103) From: Alchemist John
Got it.  The stainless steel cover for the exhaust vent.
I was afraid you were speaking of the reflective panel behind the 
heating elements and someone would try and bend those.
At 23:49 8/16/2008, you wrote:
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104) From: Steve
One of the things that I would like to see with the Behmor as a DIY
mod or something, or add-on, would be a USB port that could log roasts
real-time and allow uploading of profiles.  A lot to ask, but I think
it would make for a very awesome roasting machine.
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