HomeRoast Digest


Topic: Technivorm wins! (41 msgs / 1406 lines)
1) From: Kris McN
Hey All,
The latest issue of Cooks Illustrated has a comparison of drip coffee
machines (all with thermal carafes).  Their coffee-related comparisons in
the past have been sort of half-assed, but this time they seem to know
better what they're doing.  They procured fresh beans from Stumptown (though
I don't recall how they ground them - an unnamed burr grinder?), then
measured brew temps (195 - 202' target, natch) and brew times (they say ~6
minutes is ideal for drip), as well as the taste-test.  Unsurprisingly, the
Technivorm won.  It was the ONLY brewer that brewed at the correct temp the
entire brew cycle, as well as for the correct time.  It got their Highly
Recommended rating.  There were a couple of others Recommended With
Reservations, mostly because they were significantly cheaper than the TV.
Interestingly, the TV brew scored higher with the tasters than even a FP
brew they threw in for comparison as the "coffee connoisseur" gold standard.
Nothing earth shattering, I just thought some might be interested.
Best,
Kris McN
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

2) From: Brian Kamnetz
Kris,
Thanks for the summary of the drip machine comparison.
Do you recall which other machines were tested? I would be interesting
in knowing how the Cuisinart Brew Central did (Justin has had good
temps with that model) and, just because Zojirushi appliances have
been discussed a lot on list and also because my brother-in-law has
one, I'd like to know how any Zojirushi drop machines did.
Brian
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Kris McN  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

3) From: Frank Parth
Brian,
As Kris said the Technivorm won - highly recommended
Under the category of recommended with reservations was
- Krups 10 cup programmable thermal
- Cuisinart Grind & Brew
- Black and Decker 10 cup thermal
The other four tested were in the category of not recommended. The Cuisinart Brew Central was not tested nor were the 
Zojirushis.
Frank Parth
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

4) From: Ken Schillinger
Kris,
What issue of CI is that, and when did it arrive?
My issue must be lat or forgotten.
Thanks, Ken.

5) From: Gary Foster
What about the Newco OCS models (the 8 and the 12)?  Were they tested?
-- Gary F.
On Aug 5, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Frank Parth wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

6) From: Kris McN
It just arrived - it's the Sept/Oct 2008 issue.
Frank gave the Recommended with Reservations breakdown, though it should be
noted that the Krups 10-cup was rated the "best-buy" and rated a bit higher
than the other two in the category in "user-friendliness".  No Nescos were
included.  Rounding out the Not Recommended: Hamilton Beach Stay or Go, Mr.
Coffee 10-cup, Bunn-o-matic Home, Capresso CoffeeTEAM.
Kris McN
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Ken Schillinger  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

7) From: Dave Bush
If you go to cooksillustrated.com and look up the latest issue there's a free video report of the test.
On Tuesday, August 05, 2008, at 03:20PM, "Kris McN"  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

8) From: Brian Kamnetz
Thanks, Frank.
Brian
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Frank Parth  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

9) From: Sandy Andina
Surprised they didn't test the Starbuck's Barista Aroma, unless it's  
been discontinued
On Aug 5, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote:
<Snip>
Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

10) From: raymanowen
"...Technivorm won.  It was the ONLY brewer that brewed at the correct temp
the entire brew cycle..."
I've had my Technivorm since soon after Sweet Maria's started selling them.
I personally love the brew, and the machine has never faltered in nearly
three years of continuous use.
The statement in double quotes above is patently false and impossible.
I don't mean to impugn the messenger, just warn against accepting any
published report as infallible, and realize that ALL other statements they
make are similarly tainted and questionable, by association.
Coffee brewing starts when the 200° F water hits the coffee grounds in the
filter cone, and is essentially complete when the brewed coffee drains out
of the cone at 185° F
185° is like 200°, but no same same. Houdini croaked already, otherwise=
 he'd
have a show where
200° water is poured into 70° coffee grounds in a 70° basket and stil=
l comes
out at 200° F. The 187° and 185° that I measured coming out must have=
 been
rong, somehow. Not a sanctioned pot.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee=.com
Homeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee=.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7820

11) From: Ken Schillinger
Thanks Kris, my issue must be running late.
Ken.

12) From: Kris McN
Oh, you impugned me all right!  And I'll double impugn you right back, RayO!
I'm kidding, of course.
I take your point, and I should've been more specific.  They measured the
temp of the water coming out of the shower head and found it to be
consistently in the preferred range from the very beginning of, and all the
way through, the brew cycle.  This is unlike the other brewers that were
always the wrong temp, or worse, and more commonly, started out too cool,
warmed up, hit the right range for about 30 seconds, then were too hot for
the remainder (really the worse of all possible configurations).  They (and
we, I think) then found a correlation between the consistent water temp in
the preferred range and the taste of the resulting brew.   The didn't
actually address the change in water/brew temp as traveled through the
grounds and into the pot, or the temp of the resulting brew.
Is that better, Opa?
Kris McN
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:42 PM,  wrote:
<Snip>
mp
<Snip>
m.
<Snip>
the
<Snip>
se
<Snip>
ill
<Snip>
ve been
<Snip>
ee.com
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee=.com
Homeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee=.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7820

13) From: Alicia Frangos
I believe you have to subscribe to this separately from the magazine?  Not
sure though.
I saw that the Cuisinart grind and brew was recommended with reservations
and being critcized as being very loud.  I have an older model of this and I
can tell you it is so loud that it's funny.  The grinder is loud and long
(whirly type), and then, even more loudly, it shoots the coffee over into
the cone area for another 30 seconds or so.  It sounds like a helicopter
taking off in the kitchen.
Thus, I love to make just a couple cups using my separate grinder and
Aeropress.  Very peaceful.
Alicia
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Dave Bush  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

14) From: Brian Kamnetz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=

15) From: Ken B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=

16) From: Dave Bush
I subscribe to Cooks Illustrated online and haven't had a problem with  =
unsolicited emails at all. I do choose to receive their occasional  =
email newsletters, but that's all. I suspect your email address  =
escaped somewhere else.
BTW, Cooks Illustrated is by far the best cooking related resource  =
I've found. They take a relatively thorough scientific approach to  =
everything they do. Every recipe I've used of theirs has been  =
outstanding and their kitchen equipment tests tend to be on target.
Dave
On Aug 5, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Ken B wrote:
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
<Snip>
  =
<Snip>
  =
<Snip>
offee.com
<Snip>
ffee.com
<Snip>
ffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7820
<Snip>
fee.com
<Snip>
fee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7820
<Snip>
ee.com
<Snip>
ee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7820
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee=.com
Homeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee=.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7820

17) From: MIKE GERVAIS
We have the smaller thermal caraffe TV for a couple of years now and
the only objection is the significant amount of mud at the bottom of
the pot.  We are using a rocky grinder set on '35' and a swiss gold
filter.
Would love to hear suggestions for improvement from the TV.
For comparison, we loooove the brew the Aeropress yields.
Thx
Mike Gervais
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Kris McN  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

18) From: Morris Nelson
Don't forget messy.  A friend has one. Used once a day, early morning, far
enough to not hear it but able to smell the brew.

19) From: Frank Parth
Ken,
Sorry to hear you were spammed. I've been a member for several years and I don't think I've ever gotten any 
food-related spam. Cooks' Illustrated privacy policy does say they can sell your information to third parties, so at 
leastthey disclose this heinous practice.
Frank Parth
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

20) From: Dave Bush
Using a paper filter should solve the "mud" issue.
 
On Wednesday, August 06, 2008, at 11:54AM, "MIKE GERVAIS"  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

21) From: Ken B
Frank and Dave,
I am glad you were not affected.  Dave also said he was not.  Strange, 
because I am 100% sure it WAS them.  Nobody else had been given that 
email address for months.  Perhaps it has to do with how you signed up 
initially.  I sent in a magazine flyer for the Cooks Illustrated 
magazine subscription, and then joined the website.  The magazine 
subscription had nothing on it about privacy, but I assumed when I 
signed up for the website, the privacy settings would be for my 
account.  Soon after I got my first magazine, I started getting 
unsolicited email from e-Kitchen or somesuch, as well as other cooking 
and kitchen related sites.  Coincidence?  Maybe, but I am not a firm 
believer in coincidence. 
I liked the show, the magazine and the site, but I do not like people 
who think $1 (or whatever they get for the private info) is worth 
upsetting the customers over.  At this point, they have lost over $200 
and my good will, so I wonder if that $1 was worth it still?  This was a 
couple of years ago, so maybe they did learn their lesson and I hope 
this is the case, but I will not support them again.  Let me put it this 
way...they were not the ONLY company to have that email address, but 
they were the only COOKING company to have it, and the spam was from 
cooking places.  The spam persisted through almost a yead of unsubscribe 
until I just killed that account, AFTER letting other legitimate 
companies know the new one of course.  Problem solved...no more spam.
Best Regards,
Ken B
Frank Parth wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

22) From: Sandy Andina
I've never gotten any mail at this address, other than from Apple  
(duh), from anyone to whom I haven't expressly given it.  Basically,  
this list, its members and Cook's Illustrated.
On Aug 6, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Frank Parth wrote:
<Snip>
Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

23) From: Frank Parth
Ken,
Since magazine processing and billing are handled by subscription houses (the two biggest are in Iowa and in Colorado) 
it's entirely possible that it was the subscription house that sold your information. I'm guessing here but I think 
it's a possibility, especially if you put your e-mail address on the subscription card.
I'm one of these people who complain when things aren't as advertised. If this had happened to me I would have senta 
letter to the CEO letting him/her know how I felt about their company's behavior.
Can't blame you for being pissed. If I were spammed like that I would be pissed too.
Frank
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

24) From: Ken B
Well, I guess that may be the case then, since nobody else seems to have 
been affected.  I do hope that is the case.  I just thought I should let 
folks here know my experience.  I really do hope it was a unique one, 
because it did upset me to the point that I no longer support them.
I guess I would advise folks to sign up directly, since that seems to be 
the best outcome for the majority of folks.  But do read and understand 
their privacy policy before giving them any information. :-D
And I also am the type to try to inform people about problems.  My email 
to Cooks Illustrated was answered with a form letter, and my attempts to 
unsubscribe did nothing but confirm to these companies the email address 
was good I guess.  I do consider it a valuable lesson, and now keep many 
email addresses that are basically throw-aways, and I change them to 
permanent ones if the company seems reasonable. (like SM...)
Best Regards,
Ken B
Frank Parth wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

25) From: Joseph Robertson
Kris,
I read that the TV is the only brewer that is SCAA certified. Given this,
I'm not too surprised.
JoeR
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Kris McN  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
Ambassador for Specialty Coffee and pallet reform.
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

26) From: raymanowen
"...the only brewer that is SCAA certified."
Egad- That cinches it. If I do anything but use the supplied paper filters,
load it with coffee, water and turn it On, my coffee will be bad.
In other words, the 62g 1:1 blend of Ethiopian Harar Green Stripe @ FC+ and
Costa Rica PB @ C+, flash frozen and ground at 37 into a Gold Mesh filter
will be faulty because I extended the brew for a couple of minutes before I
opened the valve  in the basket.
Guess I only like SNAFU coffee, and OMG! The Numbskull barista poured the
fresh brewed coffee into a pre heated glass Thermos air pot. The Blazes with
preserving the fresh brewed flavor without heating or exposing to open air
for an hour or so. This coffee is Horribly delicious. Have to sip it to
avoid burning tongue...
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Fi beunydd casewch 'n ddrwg choffi , Casā 'i...
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee=.com
Homeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee=.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7820

27) From: Captain CowPie
This is perfect timing for me. My wife just told me that she wants a  
coffee maker that she can operate on her own, preferably drip. We  
haven't had one for years ever since my niece broke the carafe on our  
old one. I have been making coffee using the AeroPress, but she wants  
to be able to make coffee when I am not around.
I remember the Presto Scandinavia was a good choice a while back, but  
I can't find any online. I do not want to spend the money on a TV  
since it won't get all that much use. Are there any other suggestions  
for a good, easy drip coffee maker that is not all that expensive?
Thanks,
Vince
On Aug 7, 2008, at 1:45 AM, Joseph Robertson wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

28) From: MIKE GERVAIS
Tried it, but really missed the oils the paper was collecting.  Coffee
tasted muted compared to the swiss gold.
Thx
Mike
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Dave Bush  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

29) From: Dave Bush
Sounds like a filter issue, not a TV issue. I haven't used a non-paper filter in a long time--ever since my wife read about the health benefits of paper filtered coffee. Perhaps someone else has a recommendation for a better non-paper filter.
Dave
 
On Thursday, August 07, 2008, at 05:15PM, "MIKE GERVAIS"  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

30) From: R Nepsund
5 micron poly felt would let the oils through and filter out the fines.   I
used it with my AP,  but I also pour my French press through the stuff to
filter out the fines.   I got mine from mcmaster.com,  though I think if I
ever need more I would go with a FDA approved version.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:19 PM, MIKE GERVAIS  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

31) From: Ken B
Where do you get the 5 micron poly filters?  A quick search online was 
just comfusing.
Best regards,
ken B
R Nepsund wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

32) From: Brian Kamnetz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33) From: Brian Kamnetz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34) From: Eddie Dove
Mike,
Although some sediment is to be expected, might it be time to replace
the burrs on your Rocky or has it always given you the same amount of
sediment?
Personally, for the improvement in flavor, I use a screen on a
wide-mouth quart mason jar and shake out the fines before brewing.
Got it some time ago from Doug Boutell.  There is still going to be a
bit of sediment, but it is significantly reduced.
Eddie
-- 
Docendo Discimus
Home Coffee Roasting Blog and Referencehttp://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM, MIKE GERVAIS  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

35) From: Barry Luterman
Definately sounds like a grinder problem
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Eddie Dove
 wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

36) From: Ken B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=

37) From: raymanowen
Hmmm- maybe new use for my Polycontrast printing filters. -ro
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Ken B  wrote:
<Snip>
ow
<Snip>
wn
<Snip>
coffee.com
<Snip>
coffee.com
<Snip>
coffee.com
<Snip>
coffee.com
<Snip>
offee.com
<Snip>
ffee.com
<Snip>
fee.com
<Snip>
ee.com
<Snip>
-- =
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee=.com
Homeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee=.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7820

38) From: MIKE GERVAIS
Which filter are you using?  Last I tried was a melita white one, and
I felt I could still taste the paper.
Thx
Mike
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Dave Bush  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

39) From: Ann McCann
I stopped subscribing to the print edition of Cooks Illustrated for several
reasons.  One was that I started to get 'renew your subscription' notices
even before I got the first issue; and would get at least one a week for the
rest of the year - whether I had resubscribed or not.  I bought a couple of
the yearly compilations, and now despite telling CI in writing and verbally
"do not want', I still get the annuals in the mail, and pestered by
telemarketers.  I agree that Chris Kimball should go with a less sleazy/more
accurate marketing service.
I love the food and equipment evaluations (yea - love my Technivorm!) but
got exasperated by their approach to recipes.  If you see a recipe that
calls for "7/16 tsp." of something, you just KNOW it came from CI!
Ann
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Ken B  wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20

40) From: Morris Nelson
It sounds as though you have never received a presubscription renewal notice
or marketer as a result of a magazine subscription.

41) From: Ann McCann
Oh yea - but Cooks Illustrated sends a couple of orders of magnitude more
mail than any other magazine or book club we've been involved in:  it's
quite the noticeable difference.    But I was so happy they picked the
Technivorm!
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Morris Nelson wrote:
<Snip>
Homeroast mailing list
Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20


HomeRoast Digest