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Topic: Gesha Lot 2 (17 msgs / 595 lines)
1) From: Les
I couldn't wait!   I am enjoying my first cup of Gesha Lot 2.   I
roasted a test batch of lot 10 Gesha, this morning.  the problem is
the profile isn't the same as lot 2!  I tested the lot 10 Gesha with
my standard half pound profile and it was spot on.  When I loaded the
lot 2 Gesha, everything started out just fine, but bean temperature
climbed much faster than with any other bean.  The way the beans
sounded in the roaster, it seems like they are much harder than the
lot 10 Gesha.    I did a correction before I hit the grassy stage, and
then used a slightly lower heat setting through the roast.  I nailed a
nice city roast at 15.5 minutes which was my goal.  The cup is
stunning.  This is by far the best cup of coffee I have ever had.  I
am looking forward to 4 days from now when I will have it again.  Even
Becky commented on how good it is.  It is very sweet, too complex to
even want to analyze, and it has a very nice smooth after taste.  The
body is a bit thin, but considering the rest time, I am amazed that it
has this much body.
Les
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2) From: Stephen Carey
Les,
Thank you very much for sharing your experience.  It sounds wonderful.
For the first time in my life I let money stop me from doing 
something, namely buying any of the lot 2 or 5.  Things are going 
well, with my company doing very well, but with major medical bills 
to take care of I took a route I never do and actually thought of my 
partner in this, since it is both of our money, and I just didn't do it.
However, I have been drinking some fine coffee and enjoying roasting 
and more roasting.  I could just buy it, but instead I asked what he 
thought, he was honest and said that, "sure, we could swing it, but 
that we have real obligations to clear up."  I am never stopped from 
doing something, but this time I listened, so I really enjoy hearing 
from a true taste talent like you about your experience.  I will get 
mine one day.  Plus, I have such an oversized stash, many coffees I 
have yet to try, that I have a life of roasting full of new experiences.
Please let us know how things taste in four days.  Your descriptions 
are great, though, as you said, these coffees are tougher to put to 
words - kind of amazing isn't in.
Enjoy it for those of us who just didn't make this taste trip.
Have fun,
Stephen
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3) From: Les
This morning was a special morning.  I even got up a half hour earlier
than normal to enjoy the Gesha.  So four day rested Gesha, roasted to
a very nice city roast, ground in the Cimbali, and brewed with a Swiss
Gold filter in the Technivorm.  The first impression was the wonderful
smell of the grind.  Sweet and rich orders filled the kitchen.
Nothing in particular stood out except that it was coffee!, rich sweet
coffee.  Like so many Geshas in the past, the first sip or two were
not that impressive.  However as the cup cooled just a bit, there was
an explosion of flavor throughout the mouth!  Rich buttery coffee with
the most wonderful caramel aftertaste.  As the cup cooled some more
there was a cornucopia of fruit, some blackberry-current, but really
too complex to do an analysis.  Who wants to analyze anyway when you
are enjoying such a complex sweet not bitter bombardment of wonderful
coffee anyway!  Then Becky hits me with the bombshell, she said,  "I
taste Blueberry"  I said, "no way."  She gave me a sip of her coffee
that had a bit of half and half in it and sure enough, there was
blueberry, strong blueberry with the milk added.  I then took a sip of
mine that was now about at the same temperature as hers and I caught a
hint of blueberry that was gone after about 3 sips.  The second cup
was as nice of an experience as the first.  What are the rest of you
Gesha Lot 2 roasters discovering?
Les
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4) From: Les
Am I the only one drinking the Gesha Special lots?
Les
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5) From: Floyd Lozano
I'm working on lot 5 at the moment, but it's my tuning roast, and it's
on day 4, and it's pretty good even though I took it a little too far,
hitting a snap or 2 of 2nd.  I know it's criminal for this kind of
coffee, but what can I say, I'm not good with the timing on the Behmor
yet ;)   Even so, i'm getting a richness and caramel at the beginning
that transforms with cooling to sweetness with twist of lemon.  I
prefer it much lighter than this, but this is still very good!  I'm
going to have to burn through a lot more of the lot 5's and then the
10 before I feel comfortable attempting to roast a $60 half pound of
coffee ;)
-F
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6) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
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I just ordered 2# each of Lot 5 & Lot 10 the other day (along with a 
whole bunch of other coffees).  First coffee order since January.  Got 
my shipment notice overnight, looks like I should have my order Monday 
or Tuesday. 
Lots 3 & 2 (I tend to me more partial to PB's) are VERY tempting, but 
... it was a choice ... 1# of one or both of those, or a whole slew of 
coffees ... I went the "whole slew" route.  Besides the Gesha Lot 5 & 
Lot 10, I also ordered ...
    Guatemala Finca San Jose Ocana
    Columbia Antioquia -Jardim Cerulean Warbler
    Tanzania Blackburn Estate AA
    Costa Rica RIP Red Honey
    all three of the Hawaii Ka'u nanolots
    and both Ethiopia Koratie's (WP and DP).
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7) From: miKe mcKoffee
I'm saving my 1/2LB of Lot 2 (and Lots 1,3 & 4). Knew I wouldn't be bidding
on those lots so vac'd the greens instead of roasting them before the
auction. Been settling for fairly regular doses of ho-hum run of the mill
except when it comes to none Gesha coffees Lot 5, and still have a couple
LBs of the mixed Esmeralda from last year and a bit of the Mama Cata & Guat
Gesha's from last year. All vac sealed and frozen of course:-)
But this week no Gesha roasted and rested of any kind at the moment, ran out
Sunday and didn't roast any last Sunday's session. Went with Mountain
Thunder XF Kona & Puerto Rico Adjuntas for my first cup of the morning
Americano line-up coffees and currently strictly "roast to order" Gesha for
Roastery Kafe. Will be roasting Gesha again this weekend for personal and
plan on some Gesah tasting events next month...
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8) From: Les
This morning I am drinking an Americano of the Gesha Lot 2.  This is
like sipping a good "single malt whisky" that has been aged for at
least 7 years.  Smooooooooooth, rich and yet delicate flavors with
each sip, and not a hint of bitterness.  The most nuanced cup I have
ever had.   Pressure extraction does bring out some of the high notes.
 There is also a bit more chocolate, but still that wonderful
cornucopia of flavors and that very nice caramel finish.  I am going
to save the rest for straight shots on Saturday.  And lest I forget,
the aftertaste has a wonderful long linger.
Les
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9) From: Les
At the prices the auction lots go for, it might be a bargain to sign
up to be a bidder just to get the half pound samples.
Les
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10) From: miKe mcKoffee
In some ways yes to get some of all the top Lots, but you do pay for the
samples! The 10 1/2LB samples came out to ~$55/LB. However the cool part is
IF you win a Lot the cost of the samples is rebated/deducted from the cost
of the auction Lot(s).
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11) From: John Despres
No. I'm on my third roast of lot five, preparing for lot 10, then 3, =
then 2. I just roasted them within the last two days and while I have =
tasted them, I'm holding back until they've rested a bit more.
But here's a preview: Holy cow!!!
With some rest it may grow to HOLY COW!!!
John
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12) From: Robert Yoder
John,
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ot 2> > No. I'm on my third roast of lot five, preparing for lot 10, then 3=
, > then 2. I just roasted them within the last two days and while I have >=
 tasted them, I'm holding back until they've rested a bit more.> > But here=
's a preview: Holy cow!!!> > With some rest it may grow to HOLY COW!!!> > J=
ohn> > Les wrote:> > >Am I the only one drinking the Gesha Special lots?> >=
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rote:> > > >> >>This morning was a special morning. I even got up a half ho=
ur earlier> >>than normal to enjoy the Gesha. So four day rested Gesha, roa=
sted to> >>a very nice city roast, ground in the Cimbali, and brewed with a=
 Swiss> >>Gold filter in the Technivorm. The first impression was the wonde=
rful> >>smell of the grind. Sweet and rich orders filled the kitchen.> >>No=
thing in particular stood out except that it was coffee!, rich sweet> >>cof=
fee. Like so many Geshas in the past, the first sip or two were> >>not that=
 impressive. However as the cup cooled just a bit, there was> >>an explosio=
n of flavor throughout the mouth! Rich buttery coffee with> >>the most wond=
erful caramel aftertaste. As the cup cooled some more> >>there was a cornuc=
opia of fruit, some blackberry-current, but really> >>too complex to do an =
analysis. Who wants to analyze anyway when you> >>are enjoying such a compl=
ex sweet not bitter bombardment of wonderful> >>coffee anyway! Then Becky h=
its me with the bombshell, she said, "I> >>taste Blueberry" I said, "no way=
." She gave me a sip of her coffee> >>that had a bit of half and half in it=
 and sure enough, there was> >>blueberry, strong blueberry with the milk ad=
ded. I then took a sip of> >>mine that was now about at the same temperatur=
e as hers and I caught a> >>hint of blueberry that was gone after about 3 s=
ips. The second cup> >>was as nice of an experience as the first. What are =
the rest of you> >>Gesha Lot 2 roasters discovering?> >>> >>Les> >>> >> > >=
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13) From: John Despres
Hi, Robert.
I'm using a Gene Cafe..
John
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our earlier> >>than normal to enjoy the Gesha. So four day rested Gesha, ro=
asted to> >>a very nice city roast, ground in the Cimbali, and brewed with =
a Swiss> >>Gold filter in the Technivorm. The first impression was the wond=
erful> >>smell of the grind. Sweet and rich orders filled the kitchen.> >>N=
othing in particular stood out except that it was coffee!, rich sweet> >>co=
ffee. Like so many Geshas in the past, the first sip or two were> >>not tha=
t impressive. However as the cup cooled just a bit, there was> >>an explosi=
on of flavor throughout the mouth! Rich buttery coffee with> >>the most won=
derful caramel aftertaste. As the cup cooled some more> >>there was a cornu=
copia of fruit, some blackberry-current, but really> >>too complex to do an=
 analysis. Who wants to analyze anyway when you> >>are enjoying such a comp=
lex sweet not bitter bombardment of wonderful> >>coffee anyway! Then Becky =
hits me with the bombshell, she said, "I> >>taste Blueberry" I said, "no wa=
y." She gave me a sip of her coffee> >>that had a bit of half and half in i=
t and sure enough, there was> >>blueberry, strong blueberry with the milk a=
dded. I then took a sip of> >>mine that was now about at the same temperatu=
re as hers and I caught a> >>hint of blueberry that was gone after about 3 =
sips. The second cup> >>was as nice of an experience as the first. What are=
 the rest of you> >>Gesha Lot 2 roasters discovering?> >>> >>Les> >>> >> > =
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14) From: Coffee
So John, you willing to share what profile you used on the Gene Cafe  =
or are you still perfecting it?
-Peter
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15) From: John Despres
You betcha! I'm willing to share! I'll pull all three up and post them =
all with cupping/tasting comments in the morning.
I am still perfecting the roast, but I'll share all. There's a slight =
hitch, though. I don't use a stock Gene Cafe at the moment. I'm in the =
process of adding increased airflow in order to control the end of roast =
better without dialing the temperature down and thus avoiding the 20-30 =
degree temperature swings.
John
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16) From: Coffee
Well, then you'll have to share that too! ;-)
I lower the temperature slowly starting at the beginning of first  =
crack. Going straight from 470 to 460 (for instance), the cooling  =
gathers too much momentum and it will hit 440 or so before it turns  =
around. I turn it down a few degrees and wait until the heater clicks  =
on again, wait a bit for it to catch up then down a few more etc.  =
Something that makes that easier would be welcome.
Thinking of mods, since I've got it I've wondered if adding a PID or  =
computer control of the heater would be worth it, but I've been too  =
busy (I've been too busy for years it seems).
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17) From: John Despres
Hmmm. Not ready to share quite yet. Unless you want the wrong =
profiles... I seem to have overshot the roast degree a bit. Three times =
with three different profiles. Guess I'm off my game a bit...
Here's the deal - Tom says "Second crack as taboo" - he's right. I think =
I may amend it to read "anything much beyond City + is taboo".
All three roasts are tasty coffees and that's pretty much it with my =
current roasts. The floral aroma is present, but not to the degree I'd =
expect. Once the grounds are wet, my roasts are making a good cuppa, but =
I haven't dialed it in yet. More to come soon.
As to the Gene Cafe mods, I'll definitely share that when I have =
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