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Topic: Behmor Heat Deflector Bend (14 msgs / 535 lines)
1) From: Tom McConnel
I spent a several weeks trying to "trick" my new Behmor 1600 into roasting
appropriately. Nothing from Tom's tips really worked. Most roasts never got
out of 1st crack and some never cracked at all, no matter what
weight/time/profile combination I tried. 
An email to Behmor got an amazingly fast response, by it turns out, Joe Behm
himself on a Friday night, no less. After I reported all factors, he wrote
that the ambient temperatures where I roasted were too high. I roast in a
pole barn carport where the Sacramento Valley temperatures range from 85 to
well over 100. He said it would not perform correctly at temps greater than
85. It was designed to run indoors with more normal temps he said. However
my cranky old ac only gets the OAT down to 85 at best on a hot day. So Mr.
Behm kindly sent me directions on how to accomplish the Heat Deflector Bend
with the admonition not to publish it on the web. It works.
Mr. Behm is rather defensive about his product, but he is responsive and did
help me out. The literature states that it must be warmer than 59F and now I
learn it shouldn't be warmer than 85--that's a rather narrow operational
band. Rather than bend metal, there ought to be some sort of simple screw or
slide adjustment to let that air pass more easily for roasting in higher
ambient temperatures. 
All said, I am satisfied now.
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2) From: Rich
The problem with a user adjustable heat rate control is that in no time 
at all some owner will miss adjust it and cause a mess and then proceed 
to blame everyone and everything but the individual who made the adjustment.
Tom McConnel wrote:
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3) From: Ed Needham
For the record, Joe Behm is one of us.  He's a homeroaster.  It just happens 
that he went out on a limb and invested quite a bit of his money and 
designed a roaster, which he took to market.  If you call his business 
phone, you'll likely get him because it's pretty much only him doing 
anything other than odd jobs.  Joe's not a big corporation.  I seriously 
doubt he's making much money on the Behmor, but he's dedicated to making it 
a good product, and keeping buyers happy.  It's a good roaster.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

4) From: John and Emma
Very well said Ed.
John H.

5) From: Gregg Talton
This explains everything for me.  I roast in the garage and temperatures in
Charlotte, NC can reach 85 degrees most any month of the year.  Recently, it
was 95+ in my garage and I wasn't able to reach first with twelve ounces on
P1 adding every second of time.  Today, I loaded a pound into the Behmor and
brought it into the kitchen, where the ambient temperature is 74, and hit
first with four minutes to spare on P1.  Problem solved.  I should have
emailed Joe but just haven't taken the time to do so - so I have no one to
blame but me.
On a side note, I roasted some Ethiopian a friend brough home after a trip
to Mekelle, Ethiopia earlier this summer.  It's very dusty with lots of
broken pieces and mostly peaberry.  Taste wise, it's very bright with some
slight floral notes.
Gregg T
Belmont, NC  (84 and sunny - but the Behmor is inside)
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Tom McConnel
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sad to realize that I'm going to miss mine by just a few days. - Garrison
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6) From: Morris Nelson
Ok, you guys with the behmors...  you rave about the product and the quality
of the roasts.  Everyone likes the results. I do not recall anyone just
using the programs without fiddling with the parameters. What good are the
parameters if you guys don't use them?
Morris

7) From: Paul Helbert
It has taken some getting used to. To help with that I take notes. I've been
very happy with mine. But then, I'm not the sort who expects his car to just
drive itself. I have done the baseline roast and timed the cracks so that if
I ever need to call tech support I know what it did when new.
I see little value in the A, B, C, D buttons since time is easily set
independent of those. They are not in the way, so my question would be,
"What harm do they do?"
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8) From:
Morris,
I have been using the behmor for about 8 months...usually twice a week. I generally use P1 or P3 without fiddling. That is I roast 8oz at 1/2 lb setting and 16oz at 1lb setting. 
I don't know if it is voltage issues or what...but the standard settings work for me. 1/2 lb roasts hit first crack at about 2.5 min to go...finishing at a city to city plus (varies on the bean) and 1 lb roast do the same with about 4 min to go.
I never go to second crack or beyond as I don't like the roast tastes. So the behmor is set perfectly for my needs at this point of time. Do you have one?
Dean De Crisce
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9) From: Alex Fitch
I think by nature we are all fiddlers to some extent or we would be  
buy super market coffee. We buy poppers and fiddle with them to make  
the do what we want. Or we turn a BBQ grill in to a RK. We modify,  
tweak, blend, AP, FP, Drip, grind different all in attempt to get the  
perfect cup.
We are fiddlers.
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Alex Fitch
Alex
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10) From: Patrick R. Sklenar
Alex Fitch wrote:
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11) From: Alchemist John
Hi Morris,
If you don't recall people 'just using the programs' then I think you 
have not been paying attention or have not been here long.  With 
exception of this and one other similar thread, all the threads on 
the Behmor have been on using it 'as is'.  OTOH, what 'parameters' 
are you talking about that people are fiddling with?  I don't think 
of the 'bend' in the subject a parameter.  P1-P5 with different times 
are parameters, and if that is what you mean, I have to turn it 
around and ask "why wouldn't people fiddle with the parameters?" as 
that is why they are there.  So, what is it you are asking?
At 06:13 PM 8/23/2008, you wrote:
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12) From: Morris Nelson
No, I do not Dean.  I have two Gene Cafe's.  I am just intrigued with the
dialogues. They weren't available as 220v when I purchased.
Morris

13) From: Les
Morris,
Along the same lines as what Alchemist John said,  (I do roast with my
Behmor some times.)  my commercial half kilo USRC has no programs!  It
was way more expensive than a Behmor or a Gene Cafe.  With the
flexibility that I have, I can char a roast in about 5 minutes or
stretch one out for hours!  I paid a lot of money for the ability to
totally  "fiddle around."  Oh I also paid for repeatability.  Once I
work out a profile, I can do it over and over and over again.  Behmor
and Gene Cafe are fine little roasters.  They work a little
differently, but once you dial them in they do a good job.
Les
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Alchemist John
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14) From: Morris Nelson
These are great responses guys. Thanks a million! This is all helping me
understand how to roast and make my own profiles. Understanding why the
behmor roast do what they do to accommodate various changes in the
enviornment helps me understand more. There are three parameters to roasting
a batch: size, temp and time. And then there are the games the incoming
voltage plays. It's helping me become a better roster.
Morris


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