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Topic: Maui Moka? (11 msgs / 265 lines)
1) From: J.W.Bullfrog
Hey all,
A friend of mine brought back a coffee that Lava Java said was Maui Moka.
The coffee was green and and about the size of a tic-tac. Yes, really small.
I roasted it just into 1st crack (no  / minimum dwell time in the region
between 1st & 2'nd ). It had a TON of chocolate flavor. In fact, as it
cooled, my friend and I thought it went into becoming a defect. If I hadn't
gotten it green, we would have sworn it was flavored.
Anybody know antthing about it?
FYI, it seemed to be polished. Really gave off very minimal chaff.
Ben
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2) From: John Mac
Ben,
I got the very same coffee, I thought it was lentils , not coffee, at first.
The beans come from Maui Grown Coffee, Inc. on the big Island.
A man named Kimo Falconer started this company after the Pioneer Mill Sugar
Company closed it's coffee growing enterprise known at the time as Kaanapali
Estates Coffee. You can read all about it by doing a google search of "maui
grown coffee". They grow yellow caturra, red catuai, Guatemalan typica
progeny 502/ variety 6661, and the Mokka variety. Tom stocked some of the
mokka years ago and if you search the archives you can read his reviews. The
biggest knock from the coffee crowd is that it is low grown and lacks the
dynamic cup that you find in the higher grown Konas. I got a 1/2 lb. of the
yellow cattura, a pea berry 1/2lb. which included the yellow, red and typica
varieties and the Mokka. The Mokka is amazingly chocolaty and  tastes even
better when cool. They were all very good coffees when roasted, rested
several days and brewed in the vac pot. I would buy the Maui Mokka if Tom
had it on the list, without question, it was that good. Hope this helps.
Cheers,
John in Nor Cal
On 8/24/08, J. W. Bullfrog  wrote:
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3) From: Zara Haimo
I had some Maui Moka a few years ago that was almost pure chocolate in 
taste.  They were also the smallest beans I have ever seen - like lentils.
The farm was shut down for a while - financial problems of some kind if I 
remember right - but started producing again not long ago.  I haven't seen 
any of the new crop, but if it is at all like what I tasted a few years 
back, I'd love to try it again.  I don't know if Tom ever carried it and 
hope he will if the new crop is good.
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4) From: Andy Thomas
Sweet Maria's carried it several years ago, but the farm went belly-up, and=
 the trees fell into decline through neglect. I think Ed Needham mentioned =
that they were going back into production. It was wonderful coffee from Yem=
en stock -- hence the small seeds -- but wet processed if I recall correctl=
y.
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From: J.W.Bullfrog 
A friend of mine brought back a coffee that Lava Java said was Maui Moka.
The coffee was green and and about the size of a tic-tac. Yes, really small.
I roasted it just into 1st crack (no  / minimum dwell time in the region
between 1st & 2'nd ). It had a TON of chocolate flavor. In fact, as it
cooled, my friend and I thought it went into becoming a defect. If I hadn't
gotten it green, we would have sworn it was flavored.
Anybody know antthing about it?
FYI, it seemed to be polished. Really gave off very minimal chaff.
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5) From: Seth Grandeau
I actually visited the farm and their company store a few weeks ago and they
are very much back in business, though on a smaller scale than previously.
They sell greens on their website (I won't post it, out of respect for Tom,
but if anyone is interested, please email me off-list).  They people running
the place are great and are really into the coffee.  I strongly suggested
they speak with Tom about selling greens through Sweet Marias and sent them
contact information.  As a side business, they carved out 1 acre plots
throughout the farm and you can buy them for private houses and live the
"Plantation Owner Lifestyle". :)  Anyone have $1.2M (house not included) to
spend?
But in all seriousness, they are great people and if you find yourself on
Maui, definitely look them up!
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6) From: Ed Needham
I haven't chatted with the farm owner lately, but I know they are up and 
running.  I am almost sure most, if not all the crop is sold to Japan and to 
local roasters.  The Maui Moka was a pretty unstable varietals (from almost 
wild Yemen stock) and would produce erratically from year to year even when 
things were managed well .  For a number of years, the owner (A big agribiz 
corp) only invested enough to keep the trees irrigated.  Weeds and pruning, 
or even picking didn't happen during that period.  Now though, the farm is 
well managed and is likely producing decent crops.
I'll see if I can get some information and post it here.  In the meantime, 
if you want to look at some old pics of the plantation I took in 2002 when 
it was not producing, check out my web pages.
*********************
Ed Needham
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7) From: Ed Needham
...and that's just to 'lease' the property.  No property changes hands on 
Maui.
I also visited the plantation about six years ago when it was in shambles. 
I am glad to hear things are thriving there.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

8) From: J.W.Bullfrog
On 8/24/08, Zara Haimo  wrote:
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Thats the bean. It seemed too 'one note' for me. What little I kept I mixed
with sumatran (the last of the blue batak?). They got it from the guy green
for $15 for the lb because it was too small for him to roast.
I got a fair amount of 'backlog" in greens now because 3 of us went in on a
buy, and then they moved me to a diffferent building at work.We were coffee
clubing it with my Tv.
The farm was shut down for a while - financial problems of some kind if I
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-- 
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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9) From: J.W.Bullfrog
Ed, I looked since I remembered your history with the place. Just had a hard
time beliveing it was 'that' Maui Moka"
1.2 Mill? Geez, I can get 4 whole houses in Panama for that price. (inthe
tourist subdivision)
On 8/25/08, Ed Needham  wrote:
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Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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10) From: Seth Grandeau
1.2 million doesn't get you the house, just the 1 acre site in the middle of
a 6 acre plantation lot.  But hey, who else can claim to have coffee hedge
rows? :)
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11) From: Ed Needham
There was 'good' Maui Mokka (as they are now spelling it) and there was 
so-so Maui Mokka.  When I visited in 2002, the guy who ran the whole thing 
said there was still a bunch of beans stored in a warehouse on the island. 
That was the previous year's crop, which was the last harvested before 
things went belly up.  I bought some MM beans from someone?  and they were 
so-so.  I actually still have a half pound or so of them, since they were 
not interesting enough for me to roast again.  The beans I bought in 2001 
were spectacular.
I have not had any of the recent crops.  Maybe it's time to try it again.
*********************
Ed Needham
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