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Topic: Cleaning The Behmor Drum. (22 msgs / 392 lines)
1) From: disracer
There's Been A Lot Of Talk Lately About Cleaning The Inside Of The Behmor. What About The Drum Itself? I Used Bon Ami On The Inside and It Worked Great. A Little Nervous About Soaking The Drum In A Bon Ami Solution. Any Thoughts?

2) From: Barry Luterman
Cleaning the inside of the Behmor is a must. It reduces the chance of
chaff fires. In addition, keeping the  walls shiny insures accurate
readings for the thermocouple. The drum, however, should be left to
develop a patina which will help flavor the coffee.
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3) From: Sandy Andina
I wiped mine down with a Cafiza solution, let it sit, sponged it off  
and rinsed.  Got roast flavors off, but there is sort of a burnished  
bronze color remaining.  Soaking in Bon Ami doesn't make sense, as Bon  
Ami is for scrubbing--it's a mild abrasive.  Probably do better  
soaking in a grease-cutter like Dawn or orange-oil based solution and  
then scrubbing with a paste of Bon Ami on a sponge.
BTW, I have been utterly unable to find Orange Clean or Simple Green  
anywhere in Chicago--not in Whole Foods (Seventh Gen. and their house  
brand have taken over) nor the mainstream supermarkets like Jewel,  
Dominicks or Target (it's disappeared and in its place is the Clorox  
"green" line--did Clorox buy the company or formula?)
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4) From: J.W.Bullfrog
I use an orange based cleaner on the glass lid of my turbo roaster. Its
about the only stuff that really cuts that smoke buildup.
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5) From: Rich
Simple Green has been sighted at SAMs in the last 24 hours.
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6) From: Scott Miller
Sam's and Lowe's are the places I regularly buy it.
cheers,
Scott
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7) From: Stephen Carey
Barry,
Hi.  I hope this finds you well.  Please excuse my ignorance on this 
one.  I am very good at cleaning the inside of my Behmor after every 
roast, plus doing the 5th roast self-cleaning process.  I have never 
cleaned the drum, but did have the same question and was about to 
post it when it came up.
I see what you are saying, but won't the oils build up and present a 
fire or a smoke situation?  Or do they get burned off, if they even 
get on it, during the self-cleaning?
Sorry to ask such a basic question, but I just don't know the answer.
Thank you, in advance, for your help.
Stephen
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8) From: Sandy Andina
I don't belong to SAM's, as I don't do Wal-Mart.  Does Costco carry it?
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9) From: Sandy Andina
Cleaning off the oils is fine, but the metal of the mesh itself  
darkens (heat annealing?) to a patina that shouldn't be disturbed.
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10) From: Paul Helbert
Simple Green is probably easier to find in auto parts stores.
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11) From: Jim Gundlach
Sandy,
      Costco lists it on their web page for $10.09 per gallon  
including UPS shipping.   I don't remember seeing it in the local  
Costco but I don't think I have gone down that aisle.
        pecan jim
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12) From: Dave Huddle
I've seen Simple Green in Krogers and Meijers.
Dave
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13) From: Barry Luterman
Sandy just answered it. The oils will be driven off by the heat. It is
the same principal as seasoning a new cooking pot.
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14) From: Alex Fitch
Try Lowes or home Depot for simple green. That is where I get mine.
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15) From: Sandy Andina
I was in Costco tonight but they didn't have it--will try Lowe's  
tomorrow.
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16) From: miKe mcKoffee
I know of absolutely no good reason to clean a roaster drum, be it Behmor,
HotTop, Probat, Diedrich, USRC... Quite the contrary, drums roast best
seasoned. Same goes for Rosto or Popper etc. chamber, let the roast patina
be! Do you really think Tom's pulling the drum out of his Probat L12 and
soaking it in anything? Why would you treat a small drum any different than
the top professionals treat their roaster drums?
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17) From: raymanowen
"...Nervous About Soaking The Drum In A Bon Ami Solution. Any Thoughts?"
Yes.
Bon Ami is not like carburetor or injector body cleaner. It is not a solvent
that removes rust, dirt and excess paint by chemical action.
Bon Ami acts like a transmission that connects your arm muscles to the
scrubbing and polishing particles. Soaking the drum just prolongs the
cleaning cycle, because it just delays the application of elbow grease.
If you don't care if your  gets clean, just soak it in Bon Ami.
It's a very fine scouring powder.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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18) From: Stephen Carey
Mike, I didn't know, that is why I was asking.  The Behmor is not 
like the Probat L 12, so I just want to do things correct and I 
thought it was okay to ask them here.  Maybe not.
Stephen
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19) From: Bill
Yeah right!  As if it's not OK to ask questions on this forum.  Ask away,
that's the joy of this place.bill
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20) From: miKe mcKoffee
Of course it's okay to ask anything about roasting on the List, or virtually
anything coffee in general for that matter. Thoughts were asked for, I
simply gave mine.
And on second thought there could possibly be reasons to clean a roaster
drum like the Behmor wire mesh. If over time the mesh got gunked over
decreasing it's effective mesh opening size that might effect how the heat
is transfer to the beans or chaff discharged. Indeed while the Behmor is a
drum roaster it is also indeed very different design than a commercial solid
drum roaster. Different in air flow, way heat applied to beans, way chaff
removed, much slower rpm to think of a few differences. Which is not to say
all commericial drum roasters are the same either!
None the less if I was routinely roasting with a Behmor, which I'm not
though I have one, I'd not bother cleaning the drum unless roast challenges
arose. Then I'd soak the drum in a Cafiza (or PuroCaff etc.) solution, brush
and rinse it. But if it ain't broke don't fix it:-)
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21) From: Stephen Carey
Makes sense, thanks.
Stephen
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22) From: Justin Marquez
I do the self-clean cycle every five roasts and also then clean the inside
surfaces with a damp cloth with a tiny little bit of dishwash liquid
("Dawn"). Then I come back through with a damp towel, water only, and
wipe off  the soap.  It seems to do a fine job as the glass window is nice
and clear afterwards and there is no discoloration evident inside the
roaster where I have cleaned.
I have never cleaned the drum.
I have never had a roaster fire, nor have I seen more than a couple of chaff
sparks in 40 + roasts. I normally don't go into second crack and I suppose
if the roasts went that far, smoke and discoloration would be more of an
issue and stronger cleaners might be needed.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
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