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Topic: OT: politics, and "restraint" (4 msgs / 122 lines)
1) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Since it is THAT season ...my .02 cents:
Folks - I too wish we could have discussions that involve thoughtful 
comments that touch on politics, religion, etc. That might not be 
realistic. I think the observations about the mcdonalds commercial 
are true, but I can also look at those ads and can see it for myself.
Too often the discussions with added commentary (politics etc) go 
awry, partly because none of us joined this list for contentious 
back-and-forth on those topics. We joined to talk coffee. So it's 
unfair to inject a conversation with heavy-handed politics etc when 
that wasn't what people came and "sat down at the table" for. ... 
That said, I don't think anything posted was "baiting" or 
disingenuous at all. And I am happy to hear people take it offlist 
when they want to opine. My post about Bolivia included a comment 
thats political, and given the fact I had to cancel my flights today, 
it's very central to my coffee work. I don't want to censor that 
completely from the dialog ... but also, this is a case where it is 
affecting me personally and directly, and I feel its not that 
egregious to make a small mention of it.
But because this is election season, I want to explain the reason i 
feel it IS appropriate to be restrained when touching on those 
topics. That's really what I would ask for ... restraint, not a 
complete taboo, and the sense of humor I see often on the list helps 
too. I agree with all of you on this to some degree - kris, sandy, 
gary etc , and to boil it all down to my theme word for this post ... 
"restraint". Restraint also means moving along, and not 
over-participating in one thread. And to show what a great community 
we have here, maybe we can move along and not dwell on this topic too 
long ...
And personally, I can't take my eyes off the economic train wreck 
unraveling before us. The rest is just window dressing. Uh-oh, maybe 
the economy is going to be the next contentious topic ...
Tom
ps: sorry, this post is rambling and i repeat myself. time to stop 
cupping and go home!
--
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2) From: Floyd Lozano
By 'home' you mean 'upstairs', right?  I for some reason envision you
living in a giant loft above the coffee warehouse.  I don't know why!
-F
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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3) From: Terry Stockdale
At 07:30 PM 9/18/2008, you wrote:
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I think of Tom relaxing after cupping too long, by standing in the 
warehouse, ripping open bags of green coffee and randomly hurling 
handfulls into the hopper...
For those who don't quite understand the comment, see:http://www.sweetmarias.com/coffee.other.blends.html#espresso.monkeyOne of these days, maybe Tom will actually do a cupping of Espresso 
Monkey Blend.  Despite his comments about it being for espresso only, 
it makes a pretty fine drip pot, too.  That will be my Friday morning 
cup and thermos and thermos (2 thermi).
Once again, I have to sing the praises of the Zojirushi 16oz Tuff 
Slim TS Vacuum Bottles that Sweet Marias sells.  Try one, you'll like 
it.  Two go in my briefcase each day: one for the morning, one for 
the afternoon.http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.travelmugs-bottles.shtml#zojirushi--
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4) From: Sandy Andina
Thanks, Tom. I hope my original quip was meant in that spirit and  
nothing more.  I may be an optimist, but I believe that we can keep  
discourse at that mild level. The fact that nobody here is disagreeing  
on-list about political views, but rather on whether to express them,  
and disagreeing without being disagreeable, is living proof.
Now for some real controversy.............is it wise or unwise to  
perform a "backdoor" modification of a roaster if we have been remiss  
in otherwise properly maintaining it? (Red-faced, sitting in the  
corner......till my Behmor finishes roasting this 1/2 lb. of IMV on  
the 1/2-P2 setting)......
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